roids and genetics

[kahbab]

Come on man, you cant make claims like that without scientific backup. I havent seen anyone prove that AAS by itself can directly cause cancer in a healthy individual. Sure, AAS may increase the odds of getting cancer in people who are at high risk or have cancer that runs in their family, but you cant turn that around and say that its the AAS that caused them to get the cancer when they may have gotten it regardless in the 1st place.

Same thing with hairloss. I never get any hairloss as a side effect, but Im not prone to it and it doesnt run in my family.

i am not makeing any personal claims about hairloss or cancer but there is plenty of proof that AAS contributes to those problems. it is to broad of a subject to discuss if a person will get cancer or a genetic diseases because it is many! combined factors that bring those things together. it is not one mutation that causes cancer it is more than a few combined. imo it is in the genes weather a person will be affected by AAS, smokeing, pollution, or the sun. it is very possible for a person to use AAS all his life, get cancer, and blame it on the juice when in reality it was his garden fertilizer that he used for years.

 

[busamuscle]

And I will KEEP it simple for ya busa. Those are RANDOM mutations. Taking steroids isn't going to change your genes to reflect the changes in your phenotype. Just b/c your dad took lots of gear and slightly, VERY SLIGHTLY, increased his rate of random mutations, does not mean in ANY way, that your genes will somehow have been improved on b/c of that. You might get a random mutation that helps you, you might have gotten it anyway. You might also get trisomy of the 21st chromosome and be fucked lol. Point is, yes you do increase the rate of random mutations, but they're just that, random. No overall change in your genetic structure. If a fetus incurs any serious changes to it's genes, it very rarely survives the first trimester of pregnancy, much less survives to be born. Sorry, but ya can't load up on gear and then have super-kids... though it'd be a sweet racket if you could

I already stated that steroids would not affect germ line cells tux if you would take the time and read you would know this!!

 

[Outtlaw]

i am not makeing any personal claims about hairloss or cancer but there is plenty of proof that AAS contributes to those problems. it is to broad of a subject to discuss if a person will get cancer or a genetic diseases because it is many! combined factors that bring those things together. it is not one mutation that causes cancer it is more than a few combined. imo it is in the genes weather a person will be affected by AAS, smokeing, pollution, or the sun. it is very possible for a person to use AAS all his life, get cancer, and blame it on the juice when in reality it was his garden fertilizer that he used for years.

I completely agree, but in your previous post you clearly stated that AAS "caused" cancer.

 

[*spencer*]

you are correct in in all the above except that i dont think that these have any effect on germ line cells wich produce gametes for reproduction!

Now that I can agree with.

However the original question was whether you could get a predictable change making the son more muscular just like the father. The answer to that is ASOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO. PERIOD.

Honestly the fact that this post has gone on this long is actually pathetic. But here I am adding to it so what does it say about me?