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Roid Store, Dermacrine & Cutom Capsule representatives?????

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CO B-man

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Lets talk about sterroids Roid Store, Dermacrine & Cutom Capsule representatives?????

Will you come to the sterroid forumns from now on both day and night and answer our questions about gear and anything else of that nature from now on. That would be nice.

Like what kind of sterroid is better than the other and for what.
 
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Eric is here pretty often,

Need2 is a Custom Capsules rep and he seems to spend a lot of time on the forums. I can't imagine that many people will need to ask questions about Custom Caps, though, because you choose what goes into each capsule, so....I mean...why would you put something into a capsule, then ask what it does and how to use it?
 
CO B-man said:
Will you come to the sterroid forumns from now on both day and night and answer our questions about gear and anything else of that nature from now on. That would be nice.

:cold:
 
CO B-man said:
Will you come to the sterroid forumns from now on both day and night and answer our questions about gear and anything else of that nature from now on. That would be nice.


With so many peeps on this site, there will never be any shortage of knowledgeable bros to help with any questions you might have...


I can always bring Nelson Montana back if you feel the forum is lacking...



-BRR
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Eric is here pretty often,

Need2 is a Custom Capsules rep and he seems to spend a lot of time on the forums. I can't imagine that many people will need to ask questions about Custom Caps, though, because you choose what goes into each capsule, so....I mean...why would you put something into a capsule, then ask what it does and how to use it?


Who is Eric?

Also, I dont think I would not knowingly put anything in a capsule that would hurt me or be detrimental or non-synelgesic with any other vitamin. However, I do know that there are a lot of children or even adults for that matter that frequent this site and do not hardly know much about nutrients and what is for what and what would be a good ratio and MOST importantly what is TOO much of a vitamin or mineral let alone the side affects that they might need to look out for. And since everyones goals are different it might be beneficial for them to learn what might best suit them. You can only put so much of a certain something into one capsule. And having someone put something in a capsule and then asking questions later is what a five year old does. I am referring to asking questions about what they should put in their capsules prior to rdering should one decide to order from them.
 
CO B-man said:
Who is Eric?

Also, I dont think I would not knowingly put anything in a capsule that would hurt me or be detrimental or non-synelgesic with any other vitamin. However, I do know that there are a lot of children or even adults for that matter that frequent this site and do not hardly know much about nutrients and what is for what and what would be a good ratio and MOST importantly what is TOO much of a vitamin or mineral let alone the side affects that they might need to look out for. And since everyones goals are different it might be beneficial for them to learn what might best suit them. You can only put so much of a certain something into one capsule. And having someone put something in a capsule and then asking questions later is what a five year old does. I am referring to asking questions about what they should put in their capsules prior to rdering should one decide to order from them.

eric says hes pp
 
Big Rick Rock said:
With so many peeps on this site, there will never be any shortage of knowledgeable bros to help with any questions you might have...


I can always bring Nelson Montana back if you feel the forum is lacking...



-BRR
Thats a great idea, we definately need to know that someone is here, knows what they are talking about, and that we can be assured that we can get some Q's answerred quickly. I have seen many emergencies to include a couple of my own since being here that was always nice knowing I had someplace to get the answers I needed whether it was 8:00 a.m. or even 1:30 a.m.
 
what'???? i'm answering all the question i can as fast as i can 25-50 per day...

dang..

jk..

more the merrier..
 
Big Rick Rock said:
With so many peeps on this site, there will never be any shortage of knowledgeable bros to help with any questions you might have...


I can always bring Nelson Montana back if you feel the forum is lacking...



-BRR

macro and ulter will be hard to replace, but hey what do yuo care yuo'll vbe nmakin bank off the 16 year old buyin decca 200 and doin pct with demacrine
 
CO B-man said:
Thats a great idea, we definately need to know that someone is here, knows what they are talking about, and that we can be assured that we can get some Q's answerred quickly. I have seen many emergencies to include a couple of my own since being here that was always nice knowing I had someplace to get the answers I needed whether it was 8:00 a.m. or even 1:30 a.m.



What kind of emergency would need and answer @ 1:30am ???

If it is something that urgent... Maybe you should be going to the emergency room instead of a bulletin forum...




-BRR
 
I'm sure there are plenty of people who can answer all of the questions in this forum, whether they are about a sponsors product or otherwise.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
What kind of emergency would need and answer @ 1:30am ???

If it is something that urgent... Maybe you should be going to the emergency room instead of a bulletin forum...




-BRR


200mcg of clen???

just relax and rest.. but don't go to sleep, you won't be able to anyway.. if you start having palpations, go to the ER..

something like that???
 
SpyWizard said:
200mcg of clen???

just relax and rest.. but don't go to sleep, you won't be able to anyway.. if you start having palpations, go to the ER..

something like that???



Fuck that...
You should KNOW what a clen overdose will do to you and HOW to handle it well before it happens... Well before you even take clen... Eve before you decide to order the shit, you should know how to handle taking too much of it at once and what you should do in case it happens...

Doing your research before you put shit into your body will keep you from having to look for answers @ 1:30am ...


-BRR
 
CO B-man said:
Who is Eric?

Also, I dont think I would not knowingly put anything in a capsule that would hurt me or be detrimental or non-synelgesic with any other vitamin. However, I do know that there are a lot of children or even adults for that matter that frequent this site and do not hardly know much about nutrients and what is for what and what would be a good ratio and MOST importantly what is TOO much of a vitamin or mineral let alone the side affects that they might need to look out for. And since everyones goals are different it might be beneficial for them to learn what might best suit them. You can only put so much of a certain something into one capsule. And having someone put something in a capsule and then asking questions later is what a five year old does. I am referring to asking questions about what they should put in their capsules prior to rdering should one decide to order from them.


well I have yet to see a custom caps ??? go unanswered!!!!!!! have you?????
Anthony is right I am here all the time.I work with the owners of custom caps on a daily basses to help all our customers with every need they may have...
I research all our ingredients constantly and I can make recommendations for just about any thing "witch I do quite often".I can present members and customers with any information they might need for any combo of ingredients we offer...and support them threw every step of the way to make shore they are 100% satisfied with our service and our products.... :)
 
One of the really nice things about the current state of EliteFitness and the sponsors is that we all work together. I'll help by starting a thread on Dermacrine, Need2 will talk about my book or Dermacrine, Primordial Performance will talk about what he would use in a Custom Capsule, etc...

All of the sponsors (unless I'm missing someone) are all pretty familiar with each others products, and more than willing to pitch in to help each other out. Now.
 
LOL


People are actually supporting my saying to bring back Nelson ????

LOL

I was just joking around but.... I have the guy's phone number in my Rolodex, I can call him up right now... He is a writer so i know he sites at home all day...

Don't joke with me! I'll fucken call him bro..


-BRR
 
Anthony Roberts said:
One of the really nice things about the current state of EliteFitness and the sponsors is that we all work together. I'll help by starting a thread on Dermacrine, Need2 will talk about my book or Dermacrine, Primordial Performance will talk about what he would use in a Custom Capsule, etc...

All of the sponsors (unless I'm missing someone) are all pretty familiar with each others products, and more than willing to pitch in to help each other out. Now.
this is true.no one is working against no one and there for lots more get don with a lot less effort.....1 more great thing about it is threads were people are asking for advice,help with a product i.e how to take it when to take it,when or any thing the like.the thread wont tearn into a pile of shit like so many threads I
saw last week.I can think of at least 20 threads of the top of my head right now that I could bring up were a newb came and asked for help and by the time his thread was don he was worse of then when he had started.he was even more confused and in the end some one had to take them aside and help
them out.counterproductive is not a good thing and as it stands right now I dont think there will be any among the sponsors and upstanding members of
this board.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
One of the really nice things about the current state of EliteFitness and the sponsors is that we all work together. I'll help by starting a thread on Dermacrine, Need2 will talk about my book or Dermacrine, Primordial Performance will talk about what he would use in a Custom Capsule, etc...

All of the sponsors (unless I'm missing someone) are all pretty familiar with each others products, and more than willing to pitch in to help each other out. Now.
ya you forgot omega bro...... :worried: hes going to feel left out now.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
LOL


People are actually supporting my saying to bring back Nelson ????

LOL

I was just joking around but.... I have the guy's phone number in my Rolodex, I can call him up right now... He is a writer so i know he sites at home all day...

Don't joke with me! I'll fucken call him bro..


-BRR
montana wasn't always correct
but his basic philosophy and approach was on the mark
he had a lot of wisdom IMO
and I've been lifting for almost as long as him

he had a "wise guy,wise crack" character that was intentionally composed to confront
 
needtogetas said:
ya you forgot omega bro...... :worried: hes going to feel left out now.

Omega is such a good friend of mine, I didn't even remember to mention him....he and I talk so much on the phone and via e-mail, sometimes I forget that he's Omega also (I call him by his real name on the phone...)...

Of course...Omega also...he's been a huge supporter of the current sponsors, and all of us are huge supporters of him and his products also.

All of the current sponsors work so well together, I'm sure if there's a question that needs answering, any of us could pitch in and help out...
 
CO B-man said:
Will you come to the sterroid forumns from now on both day and night and answer our questions about gear and anything else of that nature from now on. That would be nice.



" I summon you to appear before me 24 hours a day to anwser the questions i'm to lazy to look up.... 9 pm,3 am, 6 am ... all reps.... please help me shake my penis when i take a piss.....and whipe my ass when i take a dump..... I'm scared to look at it without ulter telling me its ok....."


jesus cobman things work themselves out ... dont be so demanding...
 
The sponsors are dead.
Long live the sponsors.

I'll put in another plea for the return of Montana and if you can fit Division in there, too, that'd be grand.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
What kind of emergency would need and answer @ 1:30am ???

If it is something that urgent... Maybe you should be going to the emergency room instead of a bulletin forum...




-BRR
No thanks I would rather learn that it was a simple nick than jeapordize myself going to prison. AR can confirm thats not a fun place to be
 
Big Rick Rock said:
Fuck that...
You should KNOW what a clen overdose will do to you and HOW to handle it well before it happens... Well before you even take clen... Eve before you decide to order the shit, you should know how to handle taking too much of it at once and what you should do in case it happens...

Doing your research before you put shit into your body will keep you from having to look for answers @ 1:30am ...


-BRR
Yes but since this forum attracts teenagers like fleas that will stick anything into their bodies because one of their friends told them it was a good idea I thought that EF might be a little more sympathetic about trying to at least help them from making such mistakes. I have been wrong before. Yes we might know to do research first. not everyone that comes here does. proof is how many dbol only or Winny only threads do you see in here ALL the time.
 
SpyWizard said:
200mcg of clen???

just relax and rest.. but don't go to sleep, you won't be able to anyway.. if you start having palpations, go to the ER..

something like that???


Believe it or not a newbie was taking 600mcg of clen just yesterday. Its somewhere in one of my posts. That was real clen from AG guys
 
Sadly it happens all too often along with the guys saying that they're due to start PCT in a week's time and don't know what they need and do we know where they can buy a milk-pump.
 
Cutt29 said:
macro and ulter will be hard to replace, but hey what do yuo care yuo'll vbe nmakin bank off the 16 year old buyin decca 200 and doin pct with demacrine

What the FUK happened to Ulter and MAC????
 
Anthony Roberts said:
Omega is such a good friend of mine, I didn't even remember to mention him....he and I talk so much on the phone and via e-mail, sometimes I forget that he's Omega also (I call him by his real name on the phone...)...

Of course...Omega also...he's been a huge supporter of the current sponsors, and all of us are huge supporters of him and his products also.

All of the current sponsors work so well together, I'm sure if there's a question that needs answering, any of us could pitch in and help out...
lol no one calls me.well except brr but he is always trying to get a hold of angel and not me.he thinks I dont know about it but I know.

I was trying to tell you the other day that I have bin reading a boot leg copy of your book.....hope you don't mind. :evil:
 
a creed said:
???????????????????????????????????????????????????


not sponsors anymore bro. it was "business" so EF and mac/ulter have parted ways. gotta get AFSTORE info from anabolicfitness.net. everyone is pretty much pissed.



personally yall are are right custom caps has needto to help out alot, the dermacrine guy seems to be pretty convenient on here....BUT, like CO BMAN said before, what about the ROID STORE??? I need a roid store rep in here so i can know what dose to run my oral DECA and oral TREN at ????????????
 
blut wump said:
The sponsors are dead.
Long live the sponsors.

I'll put in another plea for the return of Montana and if you can fit Division in there, too, that'd be grand.



I think you should start a poll.... lol



-BRR
 
Need2...you rep custom caps? Just call me blondie okay....Oh wait I think I did know that lol..maybe
 
SpyWizard said:
200mcg of clen???

just relax and rest.. but don't go to sleep, you won't be able to anyway.. if you start having palpations, go to the ER..

something like that???

Hehe, reminds me of someone I once new....

Remember guys, uncut clen is VERY strong, if you have any don't try tasting it to see if it is real, resting heart rates of 185-200 are not healthy.
 
D_Mac said:
Remember guys, uncut clen is VERY strong, if you have any don't try tasting it to see if it is real, resting heart rates of 185-200 are not healthy.

Oh? Really? I am really glad then that I told a newb yesterday that the AG guys 30 ml bottle of 200mcg/ml is more than a 10 day supply!

:rolleyes:
 
It's nice that everyone works together and supports eachother.. but what happens when a product is ineffective or worse unsafe, and there's no one to contradict, point it out, or at least create any need for verification of claims.

company A saying one thing and company B saying go A! is never good for the consumer.

I'm not saying that is EF's problem because it is a business not a consumer interest forum and who can blame them but the truth is but all those threads of debate and discussion about new supps benefited the forum's users and collusion is not going to have that effect.
 
GymIntensity said:
not sponsors anymore bro. it was "business" so EF and mac/ulter have parted ways. gotta get AFSTORE info from anabolicfitness.net. everyone is pretty much pissed.



personally yall are are right custom caps has needto to help out alot, the dermacrine guy seems to be pretty convenient on here....BUT, like CO BMAN said before, what about the ROID STORE??? I need a roid store rep in here so i can know what dose to run my oral DECA and oral TREN at ????????????

Not sure if a riod store rep is such a good idea...

Think I will keep my questions pointed at Needto, Omega, PP and Anthony etc.
 
D_Mac said:
Not sure if a riod store rep is such a good idea...

Think I will keep my questions pointed at Needto, Omega, PP and Anthony etc.

Perfect and you can ask McDonalds about why Wendies burger are better.

And Why not ask Ford CEO's why you should buy a Chevy instead?


lack of logic.


You need the devils advocate and if one has better advertising than the other than so be it they won but if you want to hear the good AND the bad you need competition. All those you have listed have a vested interest in what they say.
 
The fact still remains that the newer sponsors and their "spokepersons" have zero credentials or credibility. I'll be real sure to correct myself if any of them would like to post up why any member or newbie should take what they say seriously. Especially needtogetas. I mean seriously bro, Im glad you have found a spell checker that works for you, but you have no business giving advice on how much of god knows what to put in a cap.
 
Would you? Pleeeeeeeeease.


Big Rick Rock said:
LOL


People are actually supporting my saying to bring back Nelson ????

LOL

I was just joking around but.... I have the guy's phone number in my Rolodex, I can call him up right now... He is a writer so i know he sites at home all day...

Don't joke with me! I'll fucken call him bro..


-BRR
 
Kabeetz said:
It's nice that everyone works together and supports eachother.. but what happens when a product is ineffective or worse unsafe, and there's no one to contradict, point it out, or at least create any need for verification of claims.

company A saying one thing and company B saying go A! is never good for the consumer.

I'm not saying that is EF's problem because it is a business not a consumer interest forum and who can blame them but the truth is but all those threads of debate and discussion about new supps benefited the forum's users and collusion is not going to have that effect.


It is up to the members to question the companies that market products to them on EF... It is NOT the place of a sponsor to question another sponsor! There is no way anybody can be impartial when they are talking about the products of another company they perceive as competition.





-BRR
 
Big Rick Rock said:
It is up to the members to question the companies that market products to them on EF.
-BRR

Although if you question the efficacy of product, it usually results in a ban, post removal, or a verbal assault.
 
These current sponsors are no different than Nelson really, nelson just hawked his products a bit too much. It seems like now these sponsors have members doing it for them, atleast Nelson did it himself. I am personally ignorant to what products such as dermacrine can do as I have not tried them. Unless I get it for free, i will not personally try it because these people pushing it (not the creator/owner of the product) have not proven themselves to be knowledgable people who give advice to the members here. I am here only to give and receive knowledge like alot of others bros and this is my take. Nelson would fit in perfectly into the current state of EF, as it basically just people with opinions and not really any factual evidence to back up their claims. The board is in a transition phase right now, and I hope we find a way to add a respected member of the body building community who is active in this board who also does not get too caught up in selling his shit. I agree that I did see the AF guys pushing their stuff on this board, but they also had people attacking them making it a tough spot to be in.
 
CO B-man said:
Perfect and you can ask McDonalds about why Wendies burger are better.

And Why not ask Ford CEO's why you should buy a Chevy instead?


lack of logic.


You need the devils advocate and if one has better advertising than the other than so be it they won but if you want to hear the good AND the bad you need competition. All those you have listed have a vested interest in what they say.

I agree with your point. I did not mean asking those guys about eachothers products, I meant asking those guys about general lifting/cycling/bodybuilding help, and I am just saying that those are guys who I think have experience with lifting/cycling/bodybuilding who I trust, thats all I meant.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
It is up to the members to question the companies that market products to them on EF... It is NOT the place of a sponsor to question another sponsor! There is no way anybody can be impartial when they are talking about the products of another company they perceive as competition.





-BRR
We have questioned the integrity of duh roid store products since day one. Nobody answers, then you make it go away. That makes us question the integrity of the admin that condones them. AS far as sponsors questioning other sponsors, please. That happened all the time as PP and AR engaged with AF on a consistent basis, and that was allowed. How about some answers on duh roid store that is still here while AF is gone? How about a rep so we can learn about these products?
 
pentatonic said:
Although if you question the efficacy of product, it usually results in a ban, post removal, or a verbal assault.


Bullshit.


Go read the Dermacrine post, there are many people questioning the company owner and he is responding straight forward.



-BRR
 
pentatonic said:
Although if you question the efficacy of product, it usually results in a ban, post removal, or a verbal assault.


As we have seen in the past

+1



Alias08
 
D_Mac said:
I agree with your point. I did not mean asking those guys about eachothers products, I meant asking those guys about general lifting/cycling/bodybuilding help, and I am just saying that those are guys who I think have experience with lifting/cycling/bodybuilding who I trust, thats all I meant.
Some do some not so much! spend a little more time here to determine who knows what
 
wags8 said:
We have questioned the integrity of duh roid store products since day one. Nobody answers, then you make it go away. That makes us question the integrity of the admin that condones them. AS far as sponsors questioning other sponsors, please. That happened all the time as PP and AR engaged with AF on a consistent basis, and that was allowed. How about some answers on duh roid store that is still here while AF is gone? How about a rep so we can learn about these products?

Most of us know that the roid stores sales tacticts are nothing more than deceptive advertising. This is not an open source board meaning you can not sell illegal items on this board. last time I checked Tren, deca etc. were illegal (Good thing I dont do that stuff!) Unfortunately there are always the young new guys that heard something about D-bol or Winny or Tren or deca whatever that are getting suckered into buying this crap ONLY because they think it is the real deal. I get your point and part of my point is to have them come out and answer for themselves why they Illude that their products are the real deal. Fact is they know it is not and basically will not come out and say it! Its up to everyone else to protect the unsuspecting newbie from buying a product that is nothing more than what you can go to your local GNC & buy and still get the same LACK of results.
 
abomb said:
The fact still remains that the newer sponsors and their "spokepersons" have zero credentials or credibility. I'll be real sure to correct myself if any of them would like to post up why any member or newbie should take what they say seriously. Especially needtogetas. I mean seriously bro, Im glad you have found a spell checker that works for you, but you have no business giving advice on how much of god knows what to put in a cap.

Couldn't agree more.............excellent post.

If you ask someone a question about a product and all they can muster-up is cut-and-pastes on what each supplement is (by definition) - then you have to question the whole operation.

+1
 
pentatonic said:
Although if you question the efficacy of product, it usually results in a ban, post removal, or a verbal assault.
I think that was only when ulter or mac were around.lol there has bin many ??? and statements about all the sponsors on the board now and not a single post or thread was delited and not a single member was band.on the contrary we encourage members to ask questions and get involved,to voice there opinion were ever and when ever possible.



btw to acreed I cant believe my fucking eyes that you are even in this thread
saying what you are saying.......how soon every one here forgets even you a creed that you were once "italenstalen"and you got band for speaking out against alter and mac and the hole 3rd degree burn thing....you came to my needto sight and made thread after thread about it and how much scum bags the two of them were...........wtf did they buy you off or something.I sent fucking countless pm's to get you back just to see you tern and suck there dicks wtf is this shit.

my site was there for you I was there for you and not once have you said thank you rather you tern on me and go to the ones that fucked you in the first place......I just dont get it.
 
a creed said:
Couldn't agree more.............excellent post.

If you ask someone a question about a product and all they can muster-up is cut-and-pastes on what each supplement is (by definition) - then you have to question the whole operation.

+1
and your telling ulter was not a cut and past king.that 90% of all he said was scripted.it was like a fucking computer was doing all his posting.posting the same dame thing over and over and over..........and dont think I was not the only one that could see that.......

chazk said:
I have not visted Elite in over 4 months and canceled my plat membership. Due to asking for simple test showing AIFM was as effective as Adex or letro they provided none and ulter started name calling in his usual childishway.When I provided threads from another board of people that had gyno that got worse and flesh peeling from their bodies with puss oozing after using AIFM.

Saw on another board they were banned so I decided to come back. I really enjoyed macro and his suave sense of humor and helping people. But ulter was just a ass.Rumor has it he made claims of certian superstars that used Yes cream and the famous people emailed in and told EF ether remove it or be sued for false advertising. Thats the word through the grapevine anyways.


Things come and go. This week macro and ulter next week AR and PP . Don't hate george for the game if it was not george it would be someone else. It all boils down to money if you guys have not figured that out yet then your prob under 25 or have no sense of reality.


nisser512 said:
If they weren't banned, they can still post here, can they not? Unless of course the only reason they were here was to push their products...



galaxy said:
OMG... HAHAHA...too fucking funny....lets see Macro went around deleting threads from members who complained about rashes from AIFM that sent them to the ER. Who the fuck is that looking out for...Oh yeah, Ulter was looking out for his wallet.....Dont kid yourself that was the beginning of the demise.

And Ulter was a pompous ass. You could never disagree with him, without him pulling out some "copy and paste" answer.

Let them go peddle there shit somewhere else. Im all set with it here.

I went plat as soon as I heard they got the boot.

Trust me, Ulter got to big for his britches.


jmead said:
i think you made your point with your 8 consecutive posts.

ulter and mac always have very beneficial info for many peoples issues and questions.. even if it was "copy pasted" it was useful, and they took the time to find it for someone who couldnt.

ill still sport EF, but af here i come..

i still wish someone would explain the roid store to me..

the business decision was made, now some info to back it? if this is all over the roid store i might cry..

fuckin clomid

-out
 
needtogetas said:
I think that was only when ulter or mac were around.lol there has bin many ??? and statements about all the sponsors on the board now and not a single post or thread was delited and not a single member was band.on the contrary we encourage members to ask questions and get involved,to voice there opinion were ever and when ever possible.



btw to acreed I cant believe my fucking eyes that you are even in this thread
saying what you are saying.......how soon every one here forgets even you a creed that you were once "italenstalen"and you got band for speaking out against alter and mac and the hole 3rd degree burn thing....you came to my needto sight and made thread after thread about it and how much scum bags the two of them were...........wtf did they buy you off or something.I sent fucking countless pm's to get you back just to see you tern and suck there dicks wtf is this shit.

my site was there for you I was there for you and not once have you said thank you rather you tern on me and go to the ones that fucked you in the first place......I just dont get it.

Seems as if hit a "nerve"............

You're getting a little hostile, even though my posts here have been extremely civil..........

No one "turned" on you................

Idiot......
 
Needto WTF happened to you? you certainly can not be getting that big a cut from custom capsules to be turning into a very advertiser that I have seen you post many times against? It just seems wierd seeing as the old saying goes "A pot calling the kettle black"
 
I think I'm starting to sniff out the agenda of this admin. You discard the older, wiser guys regardless of time served (MR BMJ) so it's easier to push products to the easily duped. That explains Duh roid store, as you have to be ignorant to buy those products and Lord knows there is a huge influx of young ignorant guys coming in every day. Much easier to manipulate by the current dominant sponsors.
 
a creed said:
Seems as if hit a "nerve"............

You're getting a little hostile, even though my posts here have been extremely civil..........

No one "turned" on you................

Idiot......
well lately it seems like you have bin.to tell you the truth it dos hit a bit of a nerve with me.I stuck up for you.I let you post all you had to say on my site and took all the shit for it now your acting like they did nothing wrong to you and that I am just some dumb ass and you would much rather have them then me...
I know I sound like a girl saying this but it hurts bro.
 
wags8 said:
I think I'm starting to sniff out the agenda of this admin. You discard the older, wiser guys regardless of time served (MR BMJ) so it's easier to push products to the easily duped. That explains Duh roid store, as you have to be ignorant to buy those products and Lord knows there is a huge influx of young ignorant guys coming in every day. Much easier to manipulate by the current dominant sponsors.
your kidding right.there are hundreds of older members still here and very knowledgeable ones.every time you say things like this you slap them in the face ....
 
needtogetas said:
well lately it seems like you have bin.to tell you the truth it dos hit a bit of a nerve with me.I stuck up for you.I let you post all you had to say on my site and took all the shit for it now your acting like they did nothing wrong to you and that I am just some dumb ass and you would much rather have them then me...
I know I sound like a girl saying this but it hurts bro.


I have to say I do remember that.




-BRR
 
Cutt29 said:
macro and ulter will be hard to replace, but hey what do yuo care yuo'll vbe nmakin bank off the 16 year old buyin decca 200 and doin pct with demacrine

haha this post is still here


man this place suuucks....
 
Why should anyone not copy-and-paste? After you've typed something out a dozen times, you start to notice the inefficiency of typing it out yet again and either refer someone to an earlier post or copy an earlier post with a few comments particular to the individual as appropriate.

What's more, if something is copied from elsewhere, the reader has some confidence that others have already read and commented on the data.

Regarding certain products and the accepted duping of newbies, many of us hold our own ideas of the mentioned products but we're hardly in a position to send warnings to every passing fresh username, especially when the site is is lending it's reputation to the products. I won't even get into the underlying concern that any post against a sponsor's products might carry a penalty of being banned, no matter how much outrage one might feel.
 
needtogetas said:
well lately it seems like you have bin.to tell you the truth it dos hit a bit of a nerve with me.I stuck up for you.I let you post all you had to say on my site and took all the shit for it now your acting like they did nothing wrong to you and that I am just some dumb ass and you would much rather have them then me...
I know I sound like a girl saying this but it hurts bro.

It's a "bit" like the saying "It's business, not personal

This has nothing to do with how you tried to help me out, or this or that - this simply had to do with the fact that this place DEFINITELY lost two of the most avid and knowledgeable posters, and I learned a lot from them.

Needto - we aren't talking about whether or not I appreciate what you may have done in the past, and we aren't talking about who I would rather hang out with at the local Malt Shoppe.........(cause that's what you've turned this into)

Simply put - If I needed help , say, with a delicate AAS question, I would MUCH rather Mac or Ulter help me than you.........

Again.........business, not personal..........

Sorry if I hurt you bro - it wasn't intended that way.
 
a creed said:
Seems as if hit a "nerve"............

You're getting a little hostile, even though my posts here have been extremely civil..........

No one "turned" on you................

Idiot......
Excuse me?
No one gives a sweet cherry fuck who your "friends" are or who is "cooler"...I could give a rats piss less about whether ulter and mac are here or not. I do not know either and never gotten any of their products.To me they were just a poster on this site like you, and I...
However, what needto was pointing out was the fact that he pretty much asked admin repeatidly to let you come back to this site...He listened to your crying about ulter being a fuck head and about his products..He let you make threads on the board that easily could have came back and slapped him in the face..(seeings how yes, there were threats from ulter of bannage of needto due to the shit he supported from you and others).
Get off your fucking high horse..Turn all you want on people.I don't give a sweet fuck Creed, but don't come up on this thread and be a fucking asshole to the one person who fucking stood by you...You say nothing personal just business! That is fine, I am happy for you. This post I quoted looks a little personal doesn't it? If you ask my honest opinion the only person here who even remotely looks close to an "idiot" is you..Using products, bitching about them,getting banned, having a nice guy help you out and listen to your whining....Then ooops now you are sucking off the very people that stood no wheres near you when you had issues with their own products..Lolololol.
And other people are called Idiots..fucking priceless!
Needto was not hostile at all in any of his fucking posts..That right there ^^^^^ was fucking not even close to hostile...Again, get the fuck over yourself..And feel free to let us all know when you get booted off of Ulters site because you end up disagreeing with his products..Oh, that is right my reply with strictly be "It was business". Lol..
 
Angel said:
Excuse me?
No one gives a sweet cherry fuck who your "friends" are or who is "cooler"...I could give a rats piss less about whether ulter and mac are here or not. I do not know either and never gotten any of their products.To me they were just a poster on this site like you, and I...
However, what needto was pointing out was the fact that he pretty much asked admin repeatidly to let you come back to this site...He listened to your crying about ulter being a fuck head and about his products..He let you make threads on the board that easily could have came back and slapped him in the face..(seeings how yes, there were threats from ulter of bannage of needto due to the shit he supported from you and others).
Get off your fucking high horse..Turn all you want on people.I don't give a sweet fuck Creed, but don't come up on this thread and be a fucking asshole to the one person who fucking stood by you...You say nothing personal just business! That is fine, I am happy for you. This post I quoted looks a little personal doesn't it? If you ask my honest opinion the only person here who even remotely looks close to an "idiot" is you..Using products, bitching about them,getting banned, having a nice guy help you out and listen to your whining....Then ooops now you are sucking off the very people that stood no wheres near you when you had issues with their own products..Lolololol.
And other people are called Idiots..fucking priceless!
Needto was not hostile at all in any of his fucking posts..That right there ^^^^^ was fucking not even close to hostile...Again, get the fuck over yourself..And feel free to let us all know when you get booted off of Ulters site because you end up disagreeing with his products..Oh, that is right my reply with strictly be "It was business". Lol..


You could have just wrote (+1) to Needto's post...........

Pretty much the same............nothing new.......

Oh well............
 
Angel said:
Excuse me?
No one gives a sweet cherry fuck who your "friends" are or who is "cooler"...I could give a rats piss less about whether ulter and mac are here or not. I do not know either and never gotten any of their products.To me they were just a poster on this site like you, and I...
However, what needto was pointing out was the fact that he pretty much asked admin repeatidly to let you come back to this site...He listened to your crying about ulter being a fuck head and about his products..He let you make threads on the board that easily could have came back and slapped him in the face..(seeings how yes, there were threats from ulter of bannage of needto due to the shit he supported from you and others).
Get off your fucking high horse..Turn all you want on people.I don't give a sweet fuck Creed, but don't come up on this thread and be a fucking asshole to the one person who fucking stood by you...You say nothing personal just business! That is fine, I am happy for you. This post I quoted looks a little personal doesn't it? If you ask my honest opinion the only person here who even remotely looks close to an "idiot" is you..Using products, bitching about them,getting banned, having a nice guy help you out and listen to your whining....Then ooops now you are sucking off the very people that stood no wheres near you when you had issues with their own products..Lolololol.
And other people are called Idiots..fucking priceless!
Needto was not hostile at all in any of his fucking posts..That right there ^^^^^ was fucking not even close to hostile...Again, get the fuck over yourself..And feel free to let us all know when you get booted off of Ulters site because you end up disagreeing with his products..Oh, that is right my reply with strictly be "It was business". Lol..


Classy lady. MELTDOWN.

This is totally off topic, but as I recall from Needto's myspace page you both are Christians. How about laying off the profanity a little? You can still get you message across without talking like a trucker.
 
a creed said:
It's a "bit" like the saying "It's business, not personal

This has nothing to do with how you tried to help me out, or this or that - this simply had to do with the fact that this place DEFINITELY lost two of the most avid and knowledgeable posters, and I learned a lot from them.

Needto - we aren't talking about whether or not I appreciate what you may have done in the past, and we aren't talking about who I would rather hang out with at the local Malt Shoppe.........(cause that's what you've turned this into)

Simply put - If I needed help , say, with a delicate AAS question, I would MUCH rather Mac or Ulter help me than you.........

Again.........business, not personal..........

Sorry if I hurt you bro - it wasn't intended that way.
so your telling me you would rather get advice from some one that almost caused others to loose a limb and band you for even taking about it.I mean you were so made about it you wanted to kill some one.now there great and you want them to give you advice.hmm something don't seem right here.........I guess business really is business for you ant it.I am starting to wonder what kind of business you were doing with them now.
 
CO B-man said:
Needto WTF happened to you? you certainly can not be getting that big a cut from custom capsules to be turning into a very advertiser that I have seen you post many times against? It just seems wierd seeing as the old saying goes "A pot calling the kettle black"

Maybe the pot is calling the kettle black cause it is, and the pot is nice and shiny?

Needto and many others had experience with Ulter and Macro and although I must admit they were experienced and had a lot of knowledge they could be real fukers too, they were argumentative and if you disagreed with them they were dicks, even if you were tactful. They did have posts deleted, they did try to control the boards and not allow discussion outside what they felt was right, and they did cover up the rashes.

So maybe needto rightfully disliked them for this. And maybe then a new company comes on that gives straightforward answers, tells it like it is and doesn't delete posts that are against him. Instead he gives out free bottles and tells people to try the product and just report the results they get. Of course needto wants to support this guy, cause he isn't a dick and his formula doesn't burn off skin. Ya needto is a little overzealous sometimes, and ya he cuts and pastes, but he gets the info to the people who want it to support a new product that he thinks is solid and a supplier he trusts. I don't think he ever got pissed at suppliers cause they are suppliers, it's the harmful products, cover ups and elitist attitudes that caused the problems.
 
D_Mac said:
Needto and many others had experience with Ulter and Macro and although I must admit they were experienced and had a lot of knowledge they could be real fukers too, they were argumentative and if you disagreed with them they were dicks, even if you were tactful. They did have posts deleted, they did try to control the boards and not allow discussion outside what they felt was right, and they did cover up the rashes.


It's amazing how much you know about Ulter and Macs history considering that you been here for a month. lol
 
Funny how when the "AIFM rash" first came out BRR and MANY other members dismissed the guy as an "idiot" who didn't rotate sites.

NOOOWWWW - the story is the guy almost lost a limb. (just to discredit Anafit)

LMFAO.........................You can't make this stuff up...................
 
D_Mac said:
Maybe the pot is calling the kettle black cause it is, and the pot is nice and shiny?

Needto and many others had experience with Ulter and Macro and although I must admit they were experienced and had a lot of knowledge they could be real fukers too, they were argumentative and if you disagreed with them they were dicks, even if you were tactful. They did have posts deleted, they did try to control the boards and not allow discussion outside what they felt was right, and they did cover up the rashes.

So maybe needto rightfully disliked them for this. And maybe then a new company comes on that gives straightforward answers, tells it like it is and doesn't delete posts that are against him. Instead he gives out free bottles and tells people to try the product and just report the results they get. Of course needto wants to support this guy, cause he isn't a dick and his formula doesn't burn off skin. Ya needto is a little overzealous sometimes, and ya he cuts and pastes, but he gets the info to the people who want it to support a new product that he thinks is solid and a supplier he trusts. I don't think he ever got pissed at suppliers cause they are suppliers, it's the harmful products, cover ups and elitist attitudes that caused the problems.

For someone who just signed on here in February you are proving you dont know shit about what you are talking about right now and nor do I wish to explain it to you. It has nothing to do with why anyone disliked anyone. quit trying to :blow: others to get in the know!!

You havent a clue!
 
CO B-man said:
For someone who just signed on here in February you are proving you dont know shit about what you are talking about right now and nor do I wish to explain it to you. It has nothing to do with why anyone disliked anyone. quit trying to :blow: others to get in the know!!

You havent a clue!

I think we are forgetting how many "Alters" there are around here............
 
D_Mac said:
Maybe the pot is calling the kettle black cause it is, and the pot is nice and shiny?

Needto and many others had experience with Ulter and Macro and although I must admit they were experienced and had a lot of knowledge they could be real fukers too, they were argumentative and if you disagreed with them they were dicks, even if you were tactful. They did have posts deleted, they did try to control the boards and not allow discussion outside what they felt was right, and they did cover up the rashes.

So maybe needto rightfully disliked them for this. And maybe then a new company comes on that gives straightforward answers, tells it like it is and doesn't delete posts that are against him. Instead he gives out free bottles and tells people to try the product and just report the results they get. Of course needto wants to support this guy, cause he isn't a dick and his formula doesn't burn off skin. Ya needto is a little overzealous sometimes, and ya he cuts and pastes, but he gets the info to the people who want it to support a new product that he thinks is solid and a supplier he trusts. I don't think he ever got pissed at suppliers cause they are suppliers, it's the harmful products, cover ups and elitist attitudes that caused the problems.


Assinine. People have DIED from eating peanut butter. Some people can't use soap. Some people are violently allergic to latex gloves so wtf is your point. some people might die some day because they put too much of something in their custom capsule that they were allergic too and did not know it. Some fucking jackass sued McDonalds for making them fat because they did not know putting fat foods in your body makes you .... well, fat. An old lady sued McD's for spilling coffee in her lap because somebody did not tell her that it was hot. Take f'ing responsabililty for what you put into your own F'ing body. I have plenty of times seen them state that which is obvious to many which is that some ALTHOUGH few may have violent reactions and EVERY DAMNED TIME they followed that up with return the unused portion and they would gladly give you a full refund.

So now, WTF is your point????
 
a creed said:
I think we are forgetting how many "Alters" there are around here............


True



If you are an alter in here (Not you A Creed) hiding behind some fag name get some balls and stand up for what you believe in like a man or remain balless and noncreditable!


Fck I said I was not going to be like this today!
 
CO B-man said:
True



If you are an alter in here (Not you A Creed) hiding behind some fag name get some balls and stand up for what you believe in like a man or remain balless and noncreditable!


Fck I said I was not going to be like this today!

I'VE BEEN EXPOSED!!!

Your right, I'm Anthony Roberts in disguise!!!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I am new to the boards, sure. I shouldn't have said anything about the rash because I honestly don't have personal experience with AIFM, I only know about the rash from rumors of rumors, and your right, I shouldn't have opened my mouth on that.

What I do know in my short tenure on this board is that Ulter could be a real dick, a lot of times he would deride people for disagreeing and could have been much cooler about how he corrected people who were wrong or disagreed with him. Because of that I don't feel sorry for him. We all decide who we think is knowledgeable and who we trust based on our experiences with those people, obviously our experiences and philosophies on things are different.

I would, however, say that if I was to choose one sponsor to remove from the boards for the benefit and credibility of everyone on here it wouldn't have been AG guys...
 
CO B-man said:
An old lady sued McD's for spilling coffee in her lap because somebody did not tell her that it was hot.

I read up on that case, the deal was McDonalds made their coffee purposefully extra hot, 180-190 degrees, that temp will produce 3rd degree burns in 3 seconds. McDonalds had 700 reports of the too-hot-coffee burning others and made many settlements. McDonalds did it to make people wait for coffee to cool before drinking, increasing time between refills, and profit margin. Thats why the old lady won.

http://www.citizen.org/congress/civjus/tort/myths/articles.cfm?ID=785
 
D_Mac said:
I read up on that case, the deal was McDonalds made their coffee purposefully extra hot, 180-190 degrees, that temp will produce 3rd degree burns in 3 seconds. McDonalds had 700 reports of the too-hot-coffee burning others and made many settlements. McDonalds did it to make people wait for coffee to cool before drinking, increasing time between refills, and profit margin. Thats why the old lady won.

http://www.citizen.org/congress/civjus/tort/myths/articles.cfm?ID=785

Another assinine post. 700 reports since what year????? and if you look at every f'ing arch in america it clearly states over a billion served. Pretty small percentage dont you think?


Go search for more facts that proves my point and come back and post them! please dont waste your money on college unless you want a degree in psychology and a career as a Walmart greeter!
 
if it weren't for the thread title - this thing would be shot to death..............

This thread has solved nothing, proved nothing, and lacks any real-world info.
 
CO B-man said:
Another assinine post. 700 reports since what year????? and if you look at every f'ing arch in america it clearly states over a billion served. Pretty small percentage dont you think?


Go search for more facts that proves my point and come back and post them! please dont waste your money on college unless you want a degree in psychology and a career as a Walmart greeter!

Lol, your an angry little focker aren't you. Well McDonalds lost the case so I don't see what it proves on your end. I posted the McDonalds case response just because it is an overused example that people use without knowing any facts of the case.

So what is your prestigious degree and wonder job B-man?
 
D_Mac said:
Lol, your an angry little focker aren't you. Well McDonalds lost the case so I don't see what it proves on your end. I posted the McDonalds case response just because it is an overused example that people use without knowing any facts of the case.

So what is your prestigious degree and wonder job B-man?

No offense - but who the fuk are you??

TELL ME that you're not one of the two guys in your avitar with the pathetic technique - but I guess "Everyone" can grapple these days.................
 
a creed said:
No offense - but who the fuk are you??

TELL ME that you're not one of the two guys in your avitar with the pathetic technique - but I guess "Everyone" can grapple these days.................

that was a match at http://www.subleague.com/ good time, over 200 competitors at that this year, lots of Marcello Alonzo and Team Quest competitors there. I am the one with the shaved head. My technique isn't the best but my coach is a BJJ black belt and he thought that body lock and the ensuing throw was great, so I will take his word on it. It was a good time, I am sure your technique is far above it though, you've probly been to hundreds of such tourney's, good luck with it.
 
a creed said:
Funny how when the "AIFM rash" first came out BRR and MANY other members dismissed the guy as an "idiot" who didn't rotate sites.

NOOOWWWW - the story is the guy almost lost a limb. (just to discredit Anafit)

LMFAO.........................You can't make this stuff up...................
acreed would you like a copy and past or a screen shot of what you were saying
on my board about ulter and mac and there products or would you like to just fess up now and tell us all the truth.
 
CO B-man said:
For someone who just signed on here in February you are proving you dont know shit about what you are talking about right now and nor do I wish to explain it to you. It has nothing to do with why anyone disliked anyone. quit trying to :blow: others to get in the know!!

You havent a clue!
sounded like he knew what he was saying to me.
 
D_Mac said:
Lol, your an angry little focker aren't you. Well McDonalds lost the case so I don't see what it proves on your end. I posted the McDonalds case response just because it is an overused example that people use without knowing any facts of the case.

So what is your prestigious degree and wonder job B-man?
BS inEngineering I am an Engineer read my profile what are you genius. I am getting angry with someone coming in here not knowing anyone and kissing someones ass like needto getting him on your side for what I have no clue. You should have been here 6 months ago. You think Ulter was an asshole as you say. You would have said Needto was that times 10. I Challenge you to do a search and type in his name you will see lots of "NICE" things he used to say. you obviously dont know him and you abviously do not know basically anyone in here. And finally f the damned McDonalds BS. Are you that ignorant not to see the point I was making. Forget that one and look at the other ones since you are blinded with big macs!! ALL I am saying is there are always people that are going to have problems with just about every product. There WILL be people that have problems with Custom Capsules products there WILL be people that can not take dermacrine and there will be people that can not take AIFM. BUT it was a small percentage and they ALWAYS offered a complete money back guarantee. So before you come in here acting like you know wtf is going on why dont you kick back and learn first. Do you even know what an aromatose Inhibitor is? What do you even know about anything in this forum. So far you have proven nothing to anyone other than you know how to take sides without knowing what the hell you are talking about!!
 
D_Mac said:
I'VE BEEN EXPOSED!!!

Your right, I'm Anthony Roberts in disguise!!!

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I am new to the boards, sure. I shouldn't have said anything about the rash because I honestly don't have personal experience with AIFM, I only know about the rash from rumors of rumors, and your right, I shouldn't have opened my mouth on that.

What I do know in my short tenure on this board is that Ulter could be a real dick, a lot of times he would deride people for disagreeing and could have been much cooler about how he corrected people who were wrong or disagreed with him. Because of that I don't feel sorry for him. We all decide who we think is knowledgeable and who we trust based on our experiences with those people, obviously our experiences and philosophies on things are different.

I would, however, say that if I was to choose one sponsor to remove from the boards for the benefit and credibility of everyone on here it wouldn't have been AG guys...
Dumbass
 
O.k. I just looked at all of D_mac's posts. I am convinced it is really PP which is why Needtos stroking him. All he ever talks about is dermacrine this and dermacrine that which is pretty sad because I kinda liked PP. Nope no aggenda between these two guys! Definately NO conflict of interest! :rolleyes:
 
CO B-man said:
BS inEngineering I am an Engineer read my profile what are you genius. I am getting angry with someone coming in here not knowing anyone and kissing someones ass like needto getting him on your side for what I have no clue. You should have been here 6 months ago. You think Ulter was an asshole as you say. You would have said Needto was that times 10. I Challenge you to do a search and type in his name you will see lots of "NICE" things he used to say. you obviously dont know him and you abviously do not know basically anyone in here. And finally f the damned McDonalds BS. Are you that ignorant not to see the point I was making. Forget that one and look at the other ones since you are blinded with big macs!! ALL I am saying is there are always people that are going to have problems with just about every product. There WILL be people that have problems with Custom Capsules products there WILL be people that can not take dermacrine and there will be people that can not take AIFM. BUT it was a small percentage and they ALWAYS offered a complete money back guarantee. So before you come in here acting like you know wtf is going on why dont you kick back and learn first. Do you even know what an aromatose Inhibitor is? What do you even know about anything in this forum. So far you have proven nothing to anyone other than you know how to take sides without knowing what the hell you are talking about!!

I am an operations analyst, accounting/operations management degree.

What exactly was your point with this thread anyway? We all know what the roid store is, and of course they are not going to send a rep, all he would do is get bashed, and until they get replaced they are a sponsor so the banner will stay up. As for custom caps what kind of advice do you want? They just put shit in caps, and when needto says he will answer questions to rep the company you just talk shit. PP is on here plenty and I am sure if you PM him he will answer your questions. AR is pretty active too. Losing Ulter and Macro the board lost knowledgeable people, but thats done, what more do you want from everyone else? But hey it's your thread man, have fun with it.
 
D_Mac said:
I am an operations analyst, accounting/operations management degree.

What exactly was your point with this thread anyway? We all know what the roid store is, and of course they are not going to send a rep, all he would do is get bashed, and until they get replaced they are a sponsor so the banner will stay up. As for custom caps what kind of advice do you want? They just put shit in caps, and when needto says he will answer questions to rep the company you just talk shit. PP is on here plenty and I am sure if you PM him he will answer your questions. AR is pretty active too. Losing Ulter and Macro the board lost knowledgeable people, but thats done, what more do you want from everyone else? But hey it's your thread man, have fun with it.
Dude dont twist it. I gave up on that a while back. THHey parted ways and I am cool with that. I even told BRR yesterday I would chill out on my negative posts. You two kept this alive. You want to keep throwing out cheap shots I am going to reply. You were defending Needto who was talking crap about another former sponsor and your facts were wrong!!! You two made it sound like his products were crap because a few people had reactions to it. AND I am sure they did. they stood behind those products and gave those people their money back. While you sit there with an obvious aggenda and walk on someones grave. People are going to have issues with your products too. I NEVER said either of your products were crap either. Ever because personally I DO NOT KNOW! but to put someone else making it sound like peoples arms were falling off left and right is rediculous. Yesterday I realized everyone deserves their chance to make money in this world its the american way. It just when decietful practices takes over representatives integrity that says a lot and now I know that you are affiliated with Dermacrine I am sickened. Especially after yesterday I was saying I would give it a chance. But maybe my honest shot and BLOOD TESTS scared you a little and maybe now you need to make it look like I have a reason to skew the results! Whatever. As far as the saliva tests interesting its a HUGE solo company but you have to send it to that lab that has no reason to skew anything and you pay for both through dermacrine. YEAH! Definately NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST there is there! You have taken away any credability I starte dto have that that stuff might be legit!! Keep up with your illusory sales tactics and hiding behind alters!! REAL RESPECTABLE. Sad thing is that someone with your ethics probably make a lot of people needing to be auditted as an accountant. I notice you have an accounting degree but are not one. Did the IRS take your license away for shady practices?
 
CO B-man said:
Assinine. People have DIED from eating peanut butter. Some people can't use soap. Some people are violently allergic to latex gloves so wtf is your point. some people might die some day because they put too much of something in their custom capsule that they were allergic too and did not know it. Some fucking jackass sued McDonalds for making them fat because they did not know putting fat foods in your body makes you .... well, fat. An old lady sued McD's for spilling coffee in her lap because somebody did not tell her that it was hot. Take f'ing responsabililty for what you put into your own F'ing body. I have plenty of times seen them state that which is obvious to many which is that some ALTHOUGH few may have violent reactions and EVERY DAMNED TIME they followed that up with return the unused portion and they would gladly give you a full refund.

So now, WTF is your point????

the guy that sued mcdonalds did not win... but he made them put nutrition guides on all the wrappers that come out of the fast food windows....

the lady sued mcdonalds and won. mcdonalds was warned by the code inspector that the coffe was to hot and to turn down the temp.6 months before and seconds time 2 weeks before the lady got burned.
the bottom burned out of her cup becuase the liquid was to hot . She had 3rd degree burns in her lap ,stomach crotch and inner thighs and had to seek medical attention as well has have skin grafts....

proof is that mac and ulter were guilty of selling a product approved for over the counter sales that had never been tested in a lab or was approved by the fda for any actual purpose. other then just a bottle of fluid.Yet they made all kinds of claims to restore testosterone,stop gyno,restore libido, stop estrogen conversion. Gyno is a very serious medical condition your allowed to show a study that the active ingredient can help treat gyno .But never cure it if it was a cure then it would be a drug thats where they fucked up giving medical advice and being affiliated with the product.

I worked in health food store years ago . If a cutomer came in asking for something you could show them a book with articles and studies and tell them other people have come in to buy it for that purpose. BUt if you ever say this is used to get ride of a certian medical condition you can be fined and even jailed if some died taking your recommendations and you " perscribed it to them"

Only medical doctors , naturalpath doctors can " perscribe" you take some thing for a medical condition...
thats why everything in the heatlh food store says its not approved by the fda .

plain and simple aifm was a natural health foos supplement with its makers and product owners telling people to use it for all kinds of medical things



pp is a good marketer his site shows foot notes that can be showed and claims that can be backed up by studies. If you choose to use the product read the info make up your own mind.... Now if pp says this will with out a doubt cure impotence then if some one tries it and is not cured they can seek damages . the days of the crazy lawsuits are over the govt set new laws damges know adays would not be a million dollars it would prob be a refund and and medical bills related to the product maybe time off work if you can prove you missed work....
 
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Dude dont twist it. I gave up on that a while back. THHey parted ways and I am cool with that. I even told BRR yesterday I would chill out on my negative posts. You two kept this alive. You want to keep throwing out cheap shots I am going to reply. You were defending Needto who was talking crap about another former sponsor and your facts were wrong!!! You two made it sound like his products were crap because a few people had reactions to it. AND I am sure they did. they stood behind those products and gave those people their money back. While you sit there with an obvious aggenda and walk on someones grave. People are going to have issues with your products too. I NEVER said either of your products were crap either. Ever because personally I DO NOT KNOW! but to put someone else making it sound like peoples arms were falling off left and right is rediculous. Yesterday I realized everyone deserves their chance to make money in this world its the american way. It just when decietful practices takes over representatives integrity that says a lot and now I know that you are affiliated with Dermacrine I am sickened. Especially after yesterday I was saying I would give it a chance. But maybe my honest shot and BLOOD TESTS scared you a little and maybe now you need to make it look like I have a reason to skew the results! Whatever. As far as the saliva tests interesting its a HUGE solo company but you have to send it to that lab that has no reason to skew anything and you pay for both through dermacrine. YEAH! Definately NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST there is there! You have taken away any credability I starte dto have that that stuff might be legit!! Keep up with your illusory sales tactics and hiding behind alters!! REAL RESPECTABLE. Sad thing is that someone with your ethics probably make a lot of people needing to be auditted as an accountant. I notice you have an accounting degree but are not one. Did the IRS take your license away for shady practices?


Fist I was Anthony Roberts, then I was macro parting ways with ulter, and now Im D_mac?

This is entertainment at its best…

Your right about the affiliation with D_mac. He is a personal friend of mine who used the product before we released it and was impressed with the results. I invited him to the board (as you can see from his join date) Anyway, he is half a state away if your interested in checking IP’s.

Im not sure what your point is with the saliva kits. We are a vendor, that’s it. If we had some sort of control over the results we would have made them turn out better than they did… but its silly Im even defending myself here. Medical has done his own testing with the dermacrine users and has gotten the same results… are you going to suggest that Im medical now too?

Come on bro…

-Pp

BTW, if you still interested in testing… then that’s fine… but you should chill out with the crazy conspiracy theory’s.
 
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