Rippetoe on chest exercises

[lanny]

wow.. were u trying to scare me off with ur training n compteting? cuz erm.. it din really matter to me... and its L*A*NNY. with an "A". well, squatting MORE than my squat + dl + bench, and u still talk like that.. seriously, wat use are u being that good at lifting with an attitude like yours? talking about ppl's mum's... get a grip will ya?

 

[lanny]

and why did u send me karma points?

 

[SouthernLord]

and why did u send me karma points?

Because I was an ass. My posts came off in the wrong tone. I was only joking/being sarcastic and sometimes that does not come off very well over the internet. Anyway I have officially derailed this thread and I apologize.

 

[djeclipse]

Props to jocephus, most people would never appologise (sp?) on the message board.

Lanny, take the K and say thx, he is trying to make good.

 

[binö]

the only thing that gets worked when i do flys is my rotator cuff
hurts something fierce, fuck flys

 

[lanny]

LOL! jocep, i know wat u mean, when u try to be sarcastic over the net, it just comes out WRONG... muzhahahaa.. i was also fooling around.. but i guess it didn't turn out right.. BOTTOMS UP dude! DRINK! i'm sorry too.. SO K is KARMA.. i thought i was man juice... LOL! haha.. i never did flies.. but i'm learning alot here.. BEGINNER IN THE HOUSE>.<

 

[mad_monkey59]

The idea that the incline works the "top" of the chest is actually a fallacy. The chest is one large muscle, and you can not isolate one part of it form another during an exercise.

When you do an incline press, all you are really doing is putting yourself in a position that forces you to drop the amount of weight that you can lift. The incline can be used in place of the overhead press to hit the shoulders (notice in the 5x5 that on Wednesday you have the option between the incline or military), but for the chest the flat bench is the optimal position.

You can, infact target the upper and lower parts of your chest.

Decline is superfluous because the flat bench works the lower part of the chest fine.

But there is value in doing inclines. The muscle fibres move from you strenum and outward so it is possible to train up and down the pec (but not in and out which gets wrongly bounded around by alot of people.)

 

[PoweredUp]

You can, infact target the upper and lower parts of your chest.

You can target them, but the entire chest muscle is going to move the load, so there is no reason to press from an inclined position (at least not when trying to work the chest). You want to press from the position that allows you to move the greatst amount of weight (flat bench).

 

[djeclipse]

You can, infact target the upper and lower parts of your chest.

Decline is superfluous because the flat bench works the lower part of the chest fine.

But there is value in doing inclines. The muscle fibres move from you strenum and outward so it is possible to train up and down the pec (but not in and out which gets wrongly bounded around by alot of people.)

Don't believe the hype dude.

There is no upper, loser left quadrant, right quadrant or what ever the latest BS bb mag is telling you.

The chest muscle is one muscle, the only thing you can do to it is make it grow and if you want it to stand out more remove the fat that is on top of it. You can't change the shape of your muscle no matter how hard you try, lol

Listen to PoweredUp.

 

[PoweredUp]

Don't believe the hype dude.

There is no upper, loser left quadrant, right quadrant or what ever the latest BS bb mag is telling you.

The chest muscle is one muscle, the only thing you can do to it is make it grow and if you want it to stand out more remove the fat that is on top of it. You can't change the shape of your muscle no matter how hard you try, lol

Listen to PoweredUp.

Sadly - dj - I think you and I are on an island along with very few others regarding the necessity of the incline bench press.