That was MY Point , that were LONG past the point where H2H combatives decide wars . Have been for a couple of Centuries now . HOWEVER , Capoeira DID prove itself BEFORE That was the case , and Krav Maga hasnt .
Huh?
Actually , thats what makes it a perfectly UNflawed statement . IT was my Origional Point . That Krav Maga is too new to have ever been used as theMAIN weapon in a Large Scale Conflict of ANY type .
How can an art be too new to have proven itself? The need will arise, oh say , like 3 wars, an entire culture that hates your guts and danger from terrorists around every corner. When the need arises , the art will be used. And why the hell would any self respecting country use martial arts in a large scale conflict. I believe we invented guns for a reason.
AGAIN , you sould like a Brochure ! I understand that the Sales Pitch of KM appeals to you . It SOUNDS good to me too , it just dosent work out lik the Sales Pitch wants you to Believe . But "Israel" didnt Create KM , ONE GUY did . Its not taught to ALL Isreilies , just their Special Forces , and IF you know ANYTHING about Special Forces Combativers you would know that the Type of Training they go through is a JOKE compared to the average noin McDojo MAist . Oh , and thy fight those Insurgencies and "Scary Dangers" you list above WITH GUNS abd INTEL , and NOT with KM .
Why pick on semantics? I meant it as an Israelie art. In the Special Forces world, their training has to be hard , fast and brutal. It doesnt have to look pretty. They are not granted the luxury of a mat or rules or referees. Out there in the coridors and streets and trenches they have to kill or put people out of comission and they have to do it fast. They are taught a few select moves and they are damn efficient at it because Israel seems to have alittle unit called Sayaret Matkal. Not to mention the Mossad guys whose killed more people than 50 leaders of the biggest MA schools in the world , put together. In a ring they would get worked by a pro fighter. Out there in the real world where its killed or be killed, they seem to be doing just fine. Read up on them, crazy stories. I recommend Delta Force by Col. Beckwith. Details the creation of an elite unit and in one section it details its H2H training- fast and brutal yet simple moves. You'll be amazed at their capabilities. But we're not here to talk military.
You are more likely to be Shot or Bombed in Jerusalem , and that makes it more Dangerous to live in . MA will not save you from either of these things . You are FAR more likely to have to defend yourself H2H in Bahia , or Sao Paolo Walk down the Streetys of Salvador and they make Rio look like Salt Lake City ! But you face Knives , and Strongarm tactics , not Guns . people LEARN Capo SPECIFICALLY to deal with REAL HAND TO HAND THREATS , not Imagined ones . Ive BEEN To Brasil , you appearantly have not . Its GULLY , man , and you WILL Fight there .
So bombs and bullets are the only dangers in Jerusalem? I wish I could live in such a crime free country.
Exactly , you face REAL H2H threats . Something MA can do something about .
Interesting Argument . I made the same one about Charlitain CMA nstructors and it was ignored completely .
Ignored? Sorry if I did. I think you brought it up as a rebuttal to BRR. And now I don't even want to touch that thread because its gonna explode to a flame fest, ahaha.
Im glad thats your OPINION . But its not even CLOSE to theTruth .
So is your opinion on the efficency of CMA / Cap.
Actually , Capo IS an Art that WAS made for FAR deadlier times than this . It was made to DEFEND THE VERY LIVES of its players , whom fought with it or DIED if theyu were discovered .
Krav Maga was made to defend the lives of its practioners, ie Special forces.
Oh , and all the stuff you think of as "Extra" ? Its a way to take ANYONE from HELPLESS and give them a Level of Fitness equal to a HIGH LEVEL GYMNAST with NO training equipment except your Body and the Ground . Gymnasts are the most athletic ppl on the Planet , followed Closely by Power Lifters THATS what its in there , to give you MASTERY over your Body .
I never said that extra stuff isnt good for cardio.
What system of Capo does he play ? You DO realise that there is more than one , no ?
Yeah there are two. One slow and the other fast. Or something like that.
Yes . Music makes you More Rythmic than your Opponent teaches you Tyming , Mental Structure m and to Pace your Opponents Movements , it also teaches you to be able to be Unorthodox in YOUR movement Timing , so as to be less Predictable yourself . Dancing Trains your Cardio , Acrobatics , well , see above , I already went through this bit .
I see?
Youre reading the above the way you want to . Its ORIGIONAL PURPOSE - THe THING IT WAS DESIGNED FOR is FIGHTING and PREPARING THE BODY to FIGHT .
Hes saying that TODAY its less Important to defend ourselvces with Martial Arts . There are better ways , and In some societies there is no need to even LEARN to fight , so in these cases the Health benifits become more Important . That has NOTHING to do with weather or not it will WORK in a fight . Youll just only get in so many Fights these days , and being Healthy your Whole life is a GREATER benifit if youre not Fighting all the time .
Why ? Because if you want to defend yoursef by a gun , get a CCW Permit , and learn to Shoot . THats the kind of thing that he was talking about .
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