Ridiculous

[zeplin7464]

Everyone here seems to be completely against a low dose of deca only for ten weeks and have alot of S**t to say about it. In reality, id like to know who here has actually done itt and experienced this "horrible unavoidable shutdown"? and it doesn't count if you've taken test with your deca and have gotten shut down because test in itself suppreses your endogenous test as well, which in reality would only compound and add to the "shutdown" effects of the deca run at 200mg/wk for ten weeks. please enlighten me!

 

[nzrodney]

Everyone here seems to be completely against a low dose of deca only for ten weeks and have alot of S**t to say about it. In reality, id like to know who here has actually done itt and experienced this "horrible unavoidable shutdown"? and it doesn't count if you've taken test with your deca and have gotten shut down because test in itself suppreses your endogenous test as well, which in reality would only compound and add to the "shutdown" effects of the deca run at 200mg/wk for ten weeks. please enlighten me!

Never done Deca on its own, but use it almost all the time on cycle. Some guys will not use progesterones at all due to the sides. I use it mainly for joint support & tissue repair. It is wise to treat prolactin issues, which you will get on long term use, with a course of Dostinex or Bromo every now & again. I think this is the key.

 

[hog#head#cheese]

your dick will appreciate the test

 

[elitefitness0192]

Do you want to risk fucking up your test levels for good and ruining your body. Maybe you should reconsider deca only and perhaps start with something lighter like var.

 

[zeplin7464]

NZ, what about not long term use and a cycle of just 10 weeks? and thank you hog i already know you love test, tell me something new. I dont mean to be rude but all i usually hear is take test. f*** test, ive had friends get really messed up with it. If there is someone on this form who has ran deca alone please let me know and share your experience, otherwise id rather not hear your test induced OPINIONS

 

[*The_West*]

NZ, what about not long term use and a cycle of just 10 weeks? and thank you hog i already know you love test, tell me something new. I dont mean to be rude but all i usually hear is take test. f*** test, ive had friends get really messed up with it. If there is someone on this form who has ran deca alone please let me know and share your experience, otherwise id rather not hear your test induced OPINIONS

you seem to be so hung up on deca being a safe alternative to test or something. bro, this really isnt the case. i know more people who have gotten gyno from deca than test. please realise there is no 'safe' alternative, all steroids have the potential to fuck you up if taken carelessly, deca included.test may sound scary at first, and you may know some people who have messed themselves up on it, but im willing to bet that they were foolish and didnt really know what they were doing. the likelihood of sides at a low dose of test are very, very slim and easily manageable if they do occur. i know people who have run deca on its own, and then said after the cycle that they really wish they had have got some test to run with it. trust me, test is not the big bad wolf you think it is, you wont turn into a snarling, acne ridden hairy monster with shrunken testicles provided you plan your cycle sensibly, keep a decent a.i on hand, use hcg and plan a solid pct.

 

[zeplin7464]

you seem to be so hung up on deca being a safe alternative to test or something. bro, this really isnt the case. i know more people who have gotten gyno from deca than test. please realise there is no 'safe' alternative, all steroids have the potential to fuck you up if taken carelessly, deca included.test may sound scary at first, and you may know some people who have messed themselves up on it, but im willing to bet that they were foolish and didnt really know what they were doing. the likelihood of sides at a low dose of test are very, very slim and easily manageable if they do occur. i know people who have run deca on its own, and then said after the cycle that they really wish they had have got some test to run with it. trust me, test is not the big bad wolf you think it is, you wont turn into a snarling, acne ridden hairy monster with shrunken testicles provided you plan your cycle sensibly, keep a decent a.i on hand, use hcg and plan a solid pct.

Not doing it only to get size and strength but also to ease the pain of a fucked up back. additionally i will be under the care of a licensed doctor of sports medicine, who in fact told me in these exact words " the deca will help your back and be magic at 2oo mg since your androgen recpetors are clean, and only add test if you want t become one big zit!" im already face acne ridden by the way, well luckily have it under control as we speak, knock on wood.

 

[*The_West*]

Not doing it only to get size and strength but also to ease the pain of a fucked up back. additionally i will be under the care of a licensed doctor of sports medicine, who in fact told me in these exact words " the deca will help your back and be magic at 2oo mg since your androgen recpetors are clean, and only add test if you want t become one big zit!" im already face acne ridden by the way, well luckily have it under control as we speak, knock on wood.

a licensed sports medicine doctor said that?

 

[whitemahon]

I've been running gear for 24 years bro. I've used every compound in every combination & have competed @ the national level. Yes, in my early years I ran deca alone & it shut me down so hard it was impossible to get a hard on. Ever heard of deca dick? The reason people NEED to run test with deca (and in every cycle) is to counteract this. If you run deca alone, you will have absolutely no natural test in your system & will be completely sexually dysfunctional, tired etc. . . You know why you're friends fucked themselves up? Because they didn't know what the fuck they were doing & jumped in head first, not because test is evil.

You know what's rediculous? You giving experienced bros a rash of shit when we're giving you pearls. Do what you're gonna do, I'm done trying to help.

 

[khemix]

I've been running gear for 24 years bro. I've used every compound in every combination & have competed @ the national level. Yes, in my early years I ran deca alone & it shut me down so hard it was impossible to get a hard on. Ever heard of deca dick? The reason people NEED to run test with deca (and in every cycle) is to counteract this. If you run deca alone, you will have absolutely no natural test in your system & will be completely sexually dysfunctional, tired etc. . . You know why you're friends fucked themselves up? Because they didn't know what the fuck they were doing & jumped in head first, not because test is evil.

You know what's rediculous? You giving experienced bros a rash of shit when we're giving you pearls. Do what you're gonna do, I'm done trying to help.

Thank god someone said this so I didn't have to. K to you bro.

Chris

(PS. Good post, by the way )