Review Cycle Plz...

[02gixxersix]

hey wats goin on khemix. listen bro i would run a sus only cycle. i did it myself when i was 18 and had incredible strength and weight gains. theres no need for orals in my opinion in ur first cycle. like everyone says ur gonna do wat u want anyways but hopefully you'll take some of our advice. i would def change up that routine it just doesnt seem complete or even close to intense enough except for maybe chest day. hopefully extract hooked u up with a better one. i myself am goin to change up my routine this week because i just dont feel like im pushing myself hard enough with the current one. but anyways run the sus at 250/wk or every 5 days if u can afford it. id run it for 10 wks personally and u def need clomis therapy because u know why take the chance. do a little more reading though bro trust me it will be worth it in the long run. my first cycle couple cycles although i made gains were a complete waste because i had no idea wat i was doing. just eat eat eat eat eat eat eat and drink lots of water if you do a cycle and dont hesitate to ask any questions if you have any problems. good luck though bro

 

[02gixxersix]

p.s. of ur 16 or 17 its just not necessary bro. hard work and a good diet will yield prolly better results in that you'll have a better chance of keeping ur gains. just be prepared to work a lot fuckin harder than u ever did when u come off the cycle just to maintain. it sucks to lose everything u worked so hard for anf spent so much money on. i did it once and it sucked but im back on track now and gaining fast. just so u know im 19 and i just switched up my diet and been training hard and gained 3 lbs. in the last week without even taking creatine.

 

[Triple J]

Mainly you just need to learn to train and eat. In your case it sounds like more calories are the main factor, also strive for closer to 300 grams protein/day. Lastly I would think a simple short cycle approach (suggest dbol at 15mg/day for 2 weeks, 5mg in the am for 1 week, 2 weeks off, then repeat) would pack on some pounds over 2-3 months. At that point take a break and re-evaluate. You need to learn how your body reacts before jumping into any longer cycles where a more significant crash is likely, along with the need for anti-e's while on, etc. Just keep it simple. When you start injecting esters over many weeks the drug will build up in your system and if you run into issues there is no easy exit.

 

[khemix]

Thanks for all the helpful advice guys. Yea I'm upping my protein to 300 and my calories to 3500. Also, I have checked into the shorter 2 week cycles and have read a few threads on it but im not sure what cycle would work best for me. Any suggestions?

 

[Spectre]

Bingo!

spectre, actually, im not that bad for my age. I'm young enough, under 18. I am 6'2" tall, 150lbs, 6% BF. I benchpress 225, which isn't too bad for my weight and age. I eat about 2,500 calories a day and around 200g of protein. This is on an average, not trying to eat a shitload.

My training:
Moday: Squats, Cleans,
Tuesday: Flat Bench, Incline, Dumbell flat bench, Incline dumbell, Dumbell butterflys.
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Tricep Pulldowns, One-arm tricep extensions, Tricep Press.
Friday: Curl-Bar Curls, Dumbell Curls, Upright Rows
Saturday: Off
Sunday: Back Rows, Back flys, Abdominals.

This is my usual training routine. Hope to hear you guys' comments and suggestions. Also, I've been training hard for abotu 2 years. Thanks.

Chris

First Khemix, I totally respect you for getting out here and putting your balls on the line. You didn't hide behind an assumed identity or fake pretense.

1) I'm glad your at least counting your diet, but at 150lbs and 6%, you need to eat everything that gets in your way. This is THE most anabolic substance you can find. Leave the shakes for post workout and eat real food. Lot's of fats (EFA) from Olive, Peanut butter, fish and flax. Big Secret: Eat big and go to sleep on your workout days.

2) You need a routine. Get on the training board. Compound movement, the big three; Squats, deads and bench.

Are you too young? Let get the two most important things outta the way first and by the time you have diet and training squared away you will be old enough to start in my eyes. Good work so far, keep it young buck!

 

[khemix]

Thanks Spectre! It's nice to be commented well on every now and then. I'm assuming my bodyfat is 6%, but it may be a little higher. I know it is no less than that, but I didn't want to give too high of a bf percentage either. I'm talking to Pure Extract and he is sending me some rockin workouts that should help me alot. I also take creatine, forgot to mention that but i dont think it really matters. I've decided to start eating 4 or 5 meals a day at least and increase my protien intake to about 300g or so. Thanks again bros and any and all comments are welcome!

Chris

 

[bronco944]

with your stats pretty much anything is gonna work good. deca alone will put weight on, deca dbol will put weight on, test will put weight on test dbol will put weight on. any decent cycle you do will work if you train and eat right. I think thats the least of your worries. Why not get yourself a couple bottles of qv enth and run 250 mg's every 4 days? maybe 20 mg dbol for the first 3-4 weeks. but even thats not neccessary. if you go with the enth only your cycle will be under 100 bucks and you will def grow. i think it was bigaragorn who ran around 400 mg's test a week for his first cycle and gained 20 pounds. and he started at well over 200.

 

[khemix]

ok guys, which one?

Deca, 300mg/wk for 8/10 wks
Dbol, 25mg/ed for 3/4 wks

OR

Sust, 300mg/wk for 8/10wks
Dbol 25mg/ed for 3/4 wks

Im leaning more toward an 8 weeker, but if you can change my mind do it!

Chris

 

[Spectre]

Number 2 for sure. Back the dbol down a bit, 15-20..

Good news on the workout, I'm confident that Pure Extract will be on the money.

 

[Johnny Cut]

what kind of sust are u gonna use, aslo what kind of dbols...just curious