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Rescue this Board from the Ass Clowns!

Protobuilder

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Anybody else noticing it or is it just me? We seem to be getting bombarded with teenage ass clowns lately. No offense to teens in gen'l, of course, some are good, some are F'ing stupid. But seriously. This is the TRAINING section. If you want to post "I'm a fvcking moron, please respond dood, K Thx," please do it elsewhere. Preferably on another board entirely. Preferably on a foreign language board somewhere so that I will not, even by pure chance, encounter your fvcking stupidity ever again. This board is reserved for intelligent training advice and those willing to listen and learn. "Um, yo homiez, i smoke da' pot, how 'bout you?" Who fvcking cares. Go back to www.imafuckingmoron.com please. "My trianing suxs lately and i drive to werk 3 days a weeek and eet bowls of cheeries and do handstand pushups and mow my yard, please rponds." Fucking Christ.

I understand there are different trainees with differing levels of questions and that's absolutely fine. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IF YOU'RE AN ASS CLOWN OR LIKE TO ENGAGE IN ASS BANDITRY OF ANY KIND, PLEASE DO IT ELSEWHERE. I don't come to your house and drop a load on your couch. Please return the favor and do not toss your sh!t like a monkey all over this board.

The sure sign that I'm not just getting old and crabby is that anthrax invasion is even crabbier than usual, which is saying alot. Too many F'ing tards are coming aboard, posting drivel, and getting under his skin. So I know I'm not alone.

So, please. This is me asking nicely. If you are a fvcking moron, or have strong suspicions that you may be a moron, please go away. Don't ask anymore stoopid questions. Don't offer your "advises." And don't use this board as your chat & conversation board. Just go away. And never come back.
 
I noticed the same thing and then it was brought to my attention that today is the first day of spring break for many kids.
 
blut wump said:
Aside from that, a reasonable rant that will probably get moved to C&C.

ok...we'll fix that. maybe it will stay now...

I do 5 sets of 5 sumo style deadlifts can make sure you are doing enough ab work totally if you have a weakness somewhere in your core relate then your entire lift will suffer to a strong posterior chain Proto's is necessary to being proficient at deadlifting frustration.





:p
 
Protobuilder said:
"Um, yo homiez, i smoke da' pot, how 'bout you?" Who fvcking cares.


Good, I thought I was the only one that was sick of the stupid ego stroaking "look at me, I am cool" threads...
 
"Reasonable rant" sums it up quite well; you certainly weren't the only one who noticed it. Just don't waste your time with the threads, and take some solace from the fact that most of these future Darwin Award winners won't stick around long.
 
Man, I was just gonna post a question asking if I can drink Winstrol to get ready for Spring break.....
 
Protobuilder said:
Anybody else noticing it or is it just me? We seem to be getting bombarded with teenage ass clowns lately. No offense to teens in gen'l, of course, some are good, some are F'ing stupid. But seriously. This is the TRAINING section. If you want to post "I'm a fvcking moron, please respond dood, K Thx," please do it elsewhere. Preferably on another board entirely. Preferably on a foreign language board somewhere so that I will not, even by pure chance, encounter your fvcking stupidity ever again. This board is reserved for intelligent training advice and those willing to listen and learn. "Um, yo homiez, i smoke da' pot, how 'bout you?" Who fvcking cares. Go back to www.imafuckingmoron.com please. "My trianing suxs lately and i drive to werk 3 days a weeek and eet bowls of cheeries and do handstand pushups and mow my yard, please rponds." Fucking Christ.

I understand there are different trainees with differing levels of questions and that's absolutely fine. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IF YOU'RE AN ASS CLOWN OR LIKE TO ENGAGE IN ASS BANDITRY OF ANY KIND, PLEASE DO IT ELSEWHERE. I don't come to your house and drop a load on your couch. Please return the favor and do not toss your sh!t like a monkey all over this board.

The sure sign that I'm not just getting old and crabby is that anthrax invasion is even crabbier than usual, which is saying alot. Too many F'ing tards are coming aboard, posting drivel, and getting under his skin. So I know I'm not alone.

So, please. This is me asking nicely. If you are a fvcking moron, or have strong suspicions that you may be a moron, please go away. Don't ask anymore stoopid questions. Don't offer your "advises." And don't use this board as your chat & conversation board. Just go away. And never come back.



Welcome to the boards my friend. This same thing happened last year at around spring time. And I am sure that it happens every spring. It will only last for the next 2 months, and then it drops off. Everybody is trying to do one of two things: Get in last minute shape for spring break, or last minute shape for the summer.
 
this board has been going down hill slowly since the like of Louden_Swain, B-Fold, and Spatts stopped posting. They were some awesome people with TONS of knowledge.
 
Saying Anthrax Invasion is crabbier then you is like saying Antarctica is colder then Africa. So obvious it shouldn't be mentioned. :D
 
BiggT said:
Man, I was just gonna post a question asking if I can drink Winstrol to get ready for Spring break.....
I saw a post the other day from some kid who was about to go on holiday and didn't know what to do about injecting his winny since his friend wasn't going with him. He was asking whether it would be ok to let any girls he picked up inject him as he wasn't comfortable doing it alone.

If you think the training board has it tough...
 
hey guys I gotta get toned for SB. My triceps are lacking.. do you think that kickbacks will work? Also to get a six pack, altho i have 38 percent BF, by doing 300 situps a day- will i get one? thanks! ^^
 
My forearms are rubbish... if I eat twenty cans of spinach a day and wank alot will I it make me look like pop-eye... also shall I alternate which hand I use for symmetry?
 
mad_monkey59 said:
My forearms are rubbish... if I eat twenty cans of spinach a day and wank alot will I it make me look like pop-eye... also shall I alternate which hand I use for symmetry?
If you had larger forarms you'd realise that you wouldn't need to ask that question.
 
Guys....let me run my Spring Break program by you.....first, some background... today, I went to Abercrombie and bought 5 tank tops for $237.00, I got 'em 2 sizes too small also, so I look JACKED......I also bought a bunch of track pants 'cause my legs are too small to wear shorts, and I don't want the hunnies to know they all have bigger legs than me. After Spring Break, I am gonna wear the tanks to the gym for my chest and arms workouts to get my money's worth. I am also tryin' to pick up this girl at the desk, although her dad told me she's only 14 and he'll break my legs if I ever talk to her again, I am sure after a few weeks of hard training he'll shut the fuck up and respect, cause I will be HUGE AND RIPPED AND JACKED!!!!

Here is my program, I'd like some critique.....I'm 19 and 5' 10" and 159lbs, I worked out 'on and off' since 9th grade, but lately with all the parties, it's been about 6 months since I was at the gym......but I am kinda buff from back when I played mini football for 1 season when I was in 7th grade. I was gonna run the following....Sustanon (1000mg/week), D-Bol (10 tabs a day), Equipoise (200mg eod as spot injections in my pecs and biceps), and Primobolan (400mg/week so I can get cut too at the same time)......I also have Cell Tech, Nitro Tech, Meso Tech, and Pump Tech, and some Hydroxycut cause my cousin told me it works with the Primo to make you RIPPED, and he benches like 225x2 and is HUGE, so he's somebody you don't want to fuck with, bros.

For diet, I don't have time to eat too much with all the parties and boozin', and bein' all busy and shit tryin' to pick up high school chicks on 'myspace' and in AOL chat rooms. (for some reason chicks my age don't think I am JACKED).

My routine is as follows:

Flat Bench .....135 to failure, then lotsa forced reps....185 to failure with my ass a foot off the bench for a HARD single, then my spotter, K-Dawg, helps me bang out 12 or so forced reps....then I put on 225 for a negative, it usually comes crashing down real hard and bounces a good foot off my chest and K-Dawg and T-dizzle catch it and rack it.......then I put on 315 and walk around the gym with my lats flared in case there is anybody lookin' who thinks I am gonna bench it , then they will get all scared cause I look tough.....then I do a negative and 5 'forced reps' with k-dawg and t-dizzle pullin' real hard too. By this point I am in a full wrestler's bridge and am pushing real hard.

After the bench workout, I do the following for 5 sets each (incline flyes, flat flyes, machine flyes, cable clyes, cable crossovers, cable crossovers with an underhand grip comin' up from the bottom, and we got two pec decks at the gym, so I do a few burnout sets on both of 'em).....then I finish off with 6 sets each of barbell cheat curls, dumbell cheat curls, preacher cheat curls, hammer cheat curls, incline curls, concentration curls, cable curls, reverse cable curls, machine preacher curls, e-z bar 21's, and some kickbacks cause I read in FLEX that strong triceps help you bench more. Then I rest till the soreness goes away and repeat, I'm hopin' with the juice that I can do this every day, twice a day, like Ronnie Coleman or some shit, cause that's how you get ENORMOUS.

So, anyway, thats my plan of attack for Spring Break....I've got 2 weeks to put on lotsa muscle and get my arms and chest real big, what do you guys think???? I just gotta get a Brazilian Wax and try to get rid of all my acne and I'll be ready, I just hope I don't catch crabs again this year bros.
 
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bigqt, do you do internet training? I'm down with it dood. Hit me up on aol. u know ur shit for sure
At least u help a bro out. The other peeps here are dicks to me.
 
majutsu said:
bigqt, do you do internet training? I'm down with it dood. Hit me up on aol. u know ur shit for sure
At least u help a bro out. The other peeps here are dicks to me.

Sure thing bro, we'll get HUGEEEE together.
 
BiggT said:
Guys....let me run my Spring Break program by you.....first, some background... today, I went to Abercrombie and bought 5 tank tops for $237.00, I got 'em 2 sizes too small also, so I look JACKED......I also bought a bunch of track pants 'cause my legs are too small to wear shorts, and I don't want the hunnies to know they all have bigger legs than me. After Spring Break, I am gonna wear the tanks to the gym for my chest and arms workouts to get my money's worth. I am also tryin' to pick up this girl at the desk, although her dad told me she's only 14 and he'll break my legs if I ever talk to her again, I am sure after a few weeks of hard training he'll shut the fuck up and respect, cause I will be HUGE AND RIPPED AND JACKED!!!!

Here is my program, I'd like some critique.....I'm 19 and 5' 10" and 159lbs, I worked out 'on and off' since 9th grade, but lately with all the parties, it's been about 6 months since I was at the gym......but I am kinda buff from back when I played mini football for 1 season when I was in 7th grade. I was gonna run the following....Sustanon (1000mg/week), D-Bol (10 tabs a day), Equipoise (200mg eod as spot injections in my pecs and biceps), and Primobolan (400mg/week so I can get cut too at the same time)......I also have Cell Tech, Nitro Tech, Meso Tech, and Pump Tech, and some Hydroxycut cause my cousin told me it works with the Primo to make you RIPPED, and he benches like 225x2 and is HUGE, so he's somebody you don't want to fuck with, bros.

For diet, I don't have time to eat too much with all the parties and boozin', and bein' all busy and shit tryin' to pick up high school chicks on 'myspace' and in AOL chat rooms. (for some reason chicks my age don't think I am JACKED).

My routine is as follows:

Flat Bench .....135 to failure, then lotsa forced reps....185 to failure with my ass a foot off the bench for a HARD single, then my spotter, K-Dawg, helps me bang out 12 or so forced reps....then I put on 225 for a negative, it usually comes crashing down real hard and bounces a good foot off my chest and K-Dawg and T-dizzle catch it and rack it.......then I put on 315 and walk around the gym with my lats flared in case there is anybody lookin' who thinks I am gonna bench it , then they will get all scared cause I look tough.....then I do a negative and 5 'forced reps' with k-dawg and t-dizzle pullin' real hard too. By this point I am in a full wrestler's bridge and am pushing real hard.

After the bench workout, I do the following for 5 sets each (incline flyes, flat flyes, machine flyes, cable clyes, cable crossovers, cable crossovers with an underhand grip comin' up from the bottom, and we got two pec decks at the gym, so I do a few burnout sets on both of 'em).....then I finish off with 6 sets each of barbell cheat curls, dumbell cheat curls, preacher cheat curls, hammer cheat curls, incline curls, concentration curls, cable curls, reverse cable curls, machine preacher curls, e-z bar 21's, and some kickbacks cause I read in FLEX that strong triceps help you bench more. Then I rest till the soreness goes away and repeat, I'm hopin' with the juice that I can do this every day, twice a day, like Ronnie Coleman or some shit, cause that's how you get ENORMOUS.

So, anyway, thats my plan of attack for Spring Break....I've got 2 weeks to put on lotsa muscle and get my arms and chest real big, what do you guys think???? I just gotta get a Brazilian Wax and try to get rid of all my acne and I'll be ready, I just hope I don't catch crabs again this year bros.


i'm bumping this so everyone can read it again....ahahahahhaha
 
BiggT said:
185 to failure with my ass a foot off the bench for a HARD single, then my spotter, K-Dawg, helps me bang out 12 or so forced reps

Ouch. I've been called that in RL :(

Otherwise, good stuff. Especially:

After the bench workout, I do the following for 5 sets each (incline flyes, flat flyes, machine flyes, cable clyes, cable crossovers, cable crossovers with an underhand grip comin' up from the bottom, and we got two pec decks at the gym, so I do a few burnout sets on both of 'em)

That is an actual workout at my gym. You can actually predict the path most guys will take if you see them benching. Hammer Strength - check. Cable cross-over - check. Pec Dec - check.
 
instead of bitching about the noobs that don't know their ass from a hole in the gorund, either...

A. ignore them...

B. direct them to the search function...

C. give some good advice...

D. shut the fuck up and see A...
 
K Dawg? or K Fed?

Same difference...

Bask in said workout partner's pseudo ghetto hollywood created likeness!

bksdrbdpwt.jpg
 
bignate73 said:
K Dawg? or K Fed?

Same difference...

Bask in said workout partner's pseudo ghetto hollywood created likeness!

bksdrbdpwt.jpg

rofl.

Both. My real name is Kevin and my wife makes more money than me, so some of my friends call me K-Fed. :(
 
Jim,

I've been called T-Dawg before on many occasions.....so don't sweat it.
 
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majutsu said:
The other peeps here are dicks to me.

Did I miss something? You post good stuff, help people, have a good mind, good attitude, good knowledge base, etc.... I'd think anyone here would help you in a heartbeat. Biggt knows his stuff and is going to give you great info but unless I missed some major event I'd think it would be easy to get help. To be honest, I'm surprised you are even interested in help, from what I recall I remember you having a fairly good grasp of stuff.
 
it was a continuation of Biggt's workout....he was playing the part of a person interested in that workout...hence the "internet training" and "dood" and "aol."

so yes...you missed something.











:)
 
yes, madcow. There has been a lot of wackiness on the board lately. So there is quite a lot of play and double entendre in my posts. I'm playing the buffoon a lot. Elite can be a big fun playground if you let your IQ and maturity level drop a few notches :) Don't worry, MC, I'm serious with you mate.

This whole thread is a joke. Just like those its about. The only serious comment is the one guy suggesting nobly that we should help the ignorant. While I agree, certain behaviours like "Yo homey I smoke da crack!!!" and "Look at my pics on the training board cuz I be trollin for gay dates" sort of obviate any possibility of education. If certain people just chilled out and reapproached the right way I'm sure everyone would be happy to help them.

:verygood:
 
Crabbier than usual? I try to maintain a stable level of crabiness all year round.

If I'm not gonna be a prick to these morons (Lee), then who will?
 
BiggT said:
Guys....let me run my Spring Break program by you.....first, some background... today, I went to Abercrombie and bought 5 tank tops for $237.00, I got 'em 2 sizes too small also, so I look JACKED......I also bought a bunch of track pants 'cause my legs are too small to wear shorts, and I don't want the hunnies to know they all have bigger legs than me. After Spring Break, I am gonna wear the tanks to the gym for my chest and arms workouts to get my money's worth. I am also tryin' to pick up this girl at the desk, although her dad told me she's only 14 and he'll break my legs if I ever talk to her again, I am sure after a few weeks of hard training he'll shut the fuck up and respect, cause I will be HUGE AND RIPPED AND JACKED!!!!

Here is my program, I'd like some critique.....I'm 19 and 5' 10" and 159lbs, I worked out 'on and off' since 9th grade, but lately with all the parties, it's been about 6 months since I was at the gym......but I am kinda buff from back when I played mini football for 1 season when I was in 7th grade. I was gonna run the following....Sustanon (1000mg/week), D-Bol (10 tabs a day), Equipoise (200mg eod as spot injections in my pecs and biceps), and Primobolan (400mg/week so I can get cut too at the same time)......I also have Cell Tech, Nitro Tech, Meso Tech, and Pump Tech, and some Hydroxycut cause my cousin told me it works with the Primo to make you RIPPED, and he benches like 225x2 and is HUGE, so he's somebody you don't want to fuck with, bros.

For diet, I don't have time to eat too much with all the parties and boozin', and bein' all busy and shit tryin' to pick up high school chicks on 'myspace' and in AOL chat rooms. (for some reason chicks my age don't think I am JACKED).

My routine is as follows:

Flat Bench .....135 to failure, then lotsa forced reps....185 to failure with my ass a foot off the bench for a HARD single, then my spotter, K-Dawg, helps me bang out 12 or so forced reps....then I put on 225 for a negative, it usually comes crashing down real hard and bounces a good foot off my chest and K-Dawg and T-dizzle catch it and rack it.......then I put on 315 and walk around the gym with my lats flared in case there is anybody lookin' who thinks I am gonna bench it , then they will get all scared cause I look tough.....then I do a negative and 5 'forced reps' with k-dawg and t-dizzle pullin' real hard too. By this point I am in a full wrestler's bridge and am pushing real hard.

After the bench workout, I do the following for 5 sets each (incline flyes, flat flyes, machine flyes, cable clyes, cable crossovers, cable crossovers with an underhand grip comin' up from the bottom, and we got two pec decks at the gym, so I do a few burnout sets on both of 'em).....then I finish off with 6 sets each of barbell cheat curls, dumbell cheat curls, preacher cheat curls, hammer cheat curls, incline curls, concentration curls, cable curls, reverse cable curls, machine preacher curls, e-z bar 21's, and some kickbacks cause I read in FLEX that strong triceps help you bench more. Then I rest till the soreness goes away and repeat, I'm hopin' with the juice that I can do this every day, twice a day, like Ronnie Coleman or some shit, cause that's how you get ENORMOUS.

So, anyway, thats my plan of attack for Spring Break....I've got 2 weeks to put on lotsa muscle and get my arms and chest real big, what do you guys think???? I just gotta get a Brazilian Wax and try to get rid of all my acne and I'll be ready, I just hope I don't catch crabs again this year bros.
sounds good bro. but i'd up the sus to 1500mgs, throw in some anadrol (5 tabs ED) and some tren (400mg ED). also i'd shoot the gear into my balls because it results in better delivery to the muscles then. do that and you should be ready to rock the beaches this summer :)


:chomp: :p ;) :rainbow:
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Crabbier than usual? I try to maintain a stable level of crabiness all year round.

If I'm not gonna be a prick to these morons (Lee), then who will?
you need to time the crab shots correctly to maintain stable blood levels. every 3hrs 49 mins should do just fine. ;)
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Crabbier than usual? I try to maintain a stable level of crabiness all year round.

If I'm not gonna be a prick to these morons (Lee), then who will?

The scary thing is you're only 18-19yrs old. I shudder to think the level of crankiness when you hit, say, 30 :worried:
 
Jim Ouini said:
The scary thing is you're only 18-19yrs old. I shudder to think the level of crankiness when you hit, say, 30 :worried:

Well there's two things. One, I'll probably be dead before I hit thirty. Two, if I make it that far, I'll likely have calmed down a bit, rather than having gotten worse. ;)
 
The sure sign that I'm not just getting old and crabby is that anthrax invasion is even crabbier than usual, which is saying alot. Too many F'ing tards are coming aboard, posting drivel, and getting under his skin. So I know I'm not alone.

Damn straight. :FRlol:

Bow down before the elite.
 
Protobuilder said:
Anybody else noticing it or is it just me? We seem to be getting bombarded with teenage ass clowns lately. No offense to teens in gen'l, of course, some are good, some are F'ing stupid. But seriously. This is the TRAINING section. If you want to post "I'm a fvcking moron, please respond dood, K Thx," please do it elsewhere. Preferably on another board entirely. Preferably on a foreign language board somewhere so that I will not, even by pure chance, encounter your fvcking stupidity ever again. This board is reserved for intelligent training advice and those willing to listen and learn. "Um, yo homiez, i smoke da' pot, how 'bout you?" Who fvcking cares. Go back to www.imafuckingmoron.com please. "My trianing suxs lately and i drive to werk 3 days a weeek and eet bowls of cheeries and do handstand pushups and mow my yard, please rponds." Fucking Christ.

I understand there are different trainees with differing levels of questions and that's absolutely fine. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IF YOU'RE AN ASS CLOWN OR LIKE TO ENGAGE IN ASS BANDITRY OF ANY KIND, PLEASE DO IT ELSEWHERE. I don't come to your house and drop a load on your couch. Please return the favor and do not toss your sh!t like a monkey all over this board.

The sure sign that I'm not just getting old and crabby is that anthrax invasion is even crabbier than usual, which is saying alot. Too many F'ing tards are coming aboard, posting drivel, and getting under his skin. So I know I'm not alone.

So, please. This is me asking nicely. If you are a fvcking moron, or have strong suspicions that you may be a moron, please go away. Don't ask anymore stoopid questions. Don't offer your "advises." And don't use this board as your chat & conversation board. Just go away. And never come back.



From reading the thread title, I thought you were referring to the return of a past mod and his worthless tripe postings.
 
mekannik said:
From reading the thread title, I thought you were referring to the return of a past mod and his worthless tripe postings.

Is he a beast that walks? :p
 
s8nlilhlpr said:
I'm gonna have to bump this for today. Instead of an age limit, there should be an IQ test to post.
The term musclehead, although a generalization, does exist for a reason.
 
I can't believe how many "need a good routine" questions there have been on this day alone. This is crazy:) Great thread Proto. rofl.
 
Protobuilder said:
Anybody got a good shoulder routine? I'm thinking mass maybe.

That's a loaded question....

Do you want pure mass? Mass with a little rippedness? Cuts with a little mass? or Bulkiness with some form?? Or simply Cannonball Deltz and horseshoe tries? Gotta be specific if you want a good routine, bro.
 
try this: take a serrated knife and scrape off some skin from your pecs.... hit the smith with 20 lbs and do 100 really slow reps. at this point you will really start to feel the burn. but this is where it gets really good. now pour a bottle of vinegar on your chest... the burn is awesome...
 
I've been working out at least once a month for a while now but I reckon I can get a another gym visit in before I go on holiday next month. What should I do to build my pecs and biceps and get really cut? This is pretty urgent since I want to look my best for the chicas.

Oh, and I don't want to get too big.
 
BiggT said:
That's a loaded question....

Do you want pure mass? Mass with a little rippedness? Cuts with a little mass? or Bulkiness with some form?? Or simply Cannonball Deltz and horseshoe tries? Gotta be specific if you want a good routine, bro.
lmao this is a good one.
 
Protobuilder said:
Anybody else noticing it or is it just me? We seem to be getting bombarded with teenage ass clowns lately. No offense to teens in gen'l, of course, some are good, some are F'ing stupid. But seriously. This is the TRAINING section. If you want to post "I'm a fvcking moron, please respond dood, K Thx," please do it elsewhere. Preferably on another board entirely. Preferably on a foreign language board somewhere so that I will not, even by pure chance, encounter your fvcking stupidity ever again. This board is reserved for intelligent training advice and those willing to listen and learn. "Um, yo homiez, i smoke da' pot, how 'bout you?" Who fvcking cares. Go back to www.imafuckingmoron.com please. "My trianing suxs lately and i drive to werk 3 days a weeek and eet bowls of cheeries and do handstand pushups and mow my yard, please rponds." Fucking Christ.

I understand there are different trainees with differing levels of questions and that's absolutely fine. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, IF YOU'RE AN ASS CLOWN OR LIKE TO ENGAGE IN ASS BANDITRY OF ANY KIND, PLEASE DO IT ELSEWHERE. I don't come to your house and drop a load on your couch. Please return the favor and do not toss your sh!t like a monkey all over this board.

The sure sign that I'm not just getting old and crabby is that anthrax invasion is even crabbier than usual, which is saying alot. Too many F'ing tards are coming aboard, posting drivel, and getting under his skin. So I know I'm not alone.

So, please. This is me asking nicely. If you are a fvcking moron, or have strong suspicions that you may be a moron, please go away. Don't ask anymore stoopid questions. Don't offer your "advises." And don't use this board as your chat & conversation board. Just go away. And never come back.


we should close the board.. and new members must pass a test with questions.. if they score high enough, they are not ass clowns..

then 90 probation..

what say you all???
 
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