Religious Conviction And Steroids.

[nautica]

God tells us to treat our body like a temple. If we are doing such by using anabolics then it is fine. If we completely ignore our health and punish our bodies then it would not be fine.

Also, God tells us to obey the laws of our lands. Meaning, we should abide by the laws of our Country. Well, tell Rosa Parks that.

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Nautica

 

[Silent Method]

God tells us to treat our body like a temple. If we are doing such by using anabolics then it is fine. If we completely ignore our health and punish our bodies then it would not be fine.

Nautica has a good point. My thought is that your motivation and goals are key here. If your just doing it in an effort to get all the chicks you can, it's wrong. I can't deny that part of me wants to be big and bad to impress others. However, I have said before that I believe that, used properly in conjunction with quality training and nutrition, AAS can promote health. I don't chase women (no I'm not gay, I'm engaged to the woman I love) and my health, including my athletic training and development, is far more important to me than impressing anyone.

Also, God tells us to obey the laws of our lands. Meaning, we should abide by the laws of our Country. Well, tell Rosa Parks that.

God also tells us that his law supersedes any law of man. Meaning we are not to follow any law that is intrinsically immoral. Not sure how that fits with AAS, but I do not believe that their use is intrinsically immoral.

 

[nautica]

Very well said Silent Method.

nautica

 

[BeAsTiam]

I'm surrently taking a medical ethics course, based on catholic morality.

So far i've learned that when jugding an action to be moral or immoral, you cannot just look at with face value. The intentions of the person are very important. So if you're doing it for cosmetic purposes, which i suppose 99.999% of the people use gear for this reason. then it is immoral and unethical.
oh, by the way, the church also says premarital sex and MASTURBATION is a mortal sin. So i don't really agree with the church, even though i am a practicing christian....

Let me know if this makes sence, i just got back from the gym (after sticking some fina and EQ in me) and i'm a little tired

 

[Silent Method]

AND ANOTHER THING!

Food is arguably the most anabolic drug we use. (And yes, I do think argument can be made for food as a drug.) We (mankind) has learned how to manipulate diet to achieve amazing results regarding athletic and aesthetic development. Same thing goes for training - AAS or no AAS man is becoming a stronger. healthier, longer living animal. Whose to say that because a given supplement comes out of the sharp end of a syringe it is immoral. Yet, administerd by a doctor, that same administration of that same compound is righteous .

 

[nautica]

BeAs

I think that is basically what silent method and I were trying to say.

Nautica

 

[Quadsweep]

And don't forget we are all building a bigger temple! You can't stop progress!

 

[Silent Method]

I'm surrently taking a medical ethics course, based on catholic morality.

Catholic morality also says that conformity is evil - yet their methodology breeds conformity. Much of the churches official doctrine is admittedly based on "tradition" with no biblical foundation. Now I'm not saying that your point of fullfilling a purely narcissistic urge being immoral is false. But I'm alway skeptical of catholisism driven study.

 

[str8cubano]

I am fairly religious and have come across quite a few scriptures stating god used anabolics back in the day.

funny...but serioulsy..

I am very religious and practicing catholic, and have come across the questions many times..i then realllized, that creatine, ripped fuel, and all supplements are there to enhance our physical appearance....so why are steroids so bad? if one educates himself/herself about the drug, then they can maximize the benifits without potential dangers. The only difference is that steroids are illegal. That's it. Because of this, many are ignorant of how to use them, society just know's that steroids are "BAD", and we are taught never to take them. Marijuana is also illegal. I don't smoke weed all the time, i don't use it as an escape, but there have been times that ive smoked and i seroiusly don't see anything wrong with it. It depends on the individuals intentions as well. Somebody that drinks obsesively to escape from his problems, does drugs and become addicts...and can't have fun or live without there obsession. yes i see that wrong. But if you do it everyonce in a while to enjoy the occasion, and don't let the drug/drink become your life, then i see nothing worng with that...Jesus Christ drank wine...im sure he got buzzed...

yea i know so how does that fit with AS, same shit. I'm no one to judge, but i guess i would say that someone like ROnny Coleman and these pro bodybuilders maybe take it a little too far, and become obbsessed with winnng competitions, that they put there bodies in jeopardy and their health in order to win. i don't care what anybody sais, im pretty sure that ROnny and fucking other bodybuilders aren't healthy individuals with the UnGodly amount of AS in their bodies. But only God know's their intentions and only He can judge. Yea i guess that would be more wrong, but thats how life is. ON the other hand, if someone moderately uses AS for whatever reason, and doesn't let the AS become their obsession and life to the point that it takes over their entire life, then i see nothing wrong with that. Every man wants to improve his image, likes to have fun, party, and well thats just things that make us human. Is it wrong for a fat girl to go on a strict diet and suffer while doing it in order to loose weight? Some males work out and work out, and can't cross that plateue without roids...so if a person works out as a hobby, and enjoys what he does, why not use something that can aid, help, and maiximize results? just cause its' illegal?

It's also illegal for someone under 21 to drink. But its legal for a soldier thats 18 years old to give his life for our country. but he can't drink....the laws aren't always fair.

 

[str8cubano]

Catholic morality also says that conformity is evil - yet their methodology breeds conformity. Much of the churches official doctrine is admittedly based on "tradition" with no biblical foundation. Now I'm not saying that your point of fullfilling a purely narcissistic urge being immoral is false. But I'm alway skeptical of catholisism driven study.

everything the catholic church teaches has foundation in the bible. there are 100's of scholars and others that try to intepret the bible, and of course shit is going to get mixed up. The catholic church keeps tradition while remaining true to what is said in the gospel..now if you want to get into the saints, the virgin mary, and other stuff..well thats a whole other thread. My best freind is christian, and we have our discussions back and forth when it comes to catholasism. But to this day, i always look in the bible trying to find a response to quesitons about catholasism.