Recovery Issues After PCT

[joeblow12345]

without knowing your LH no one can speculate on anything yet.

secondly you were on previously for long periods of times bro, we have talked a lot the past month or two. you are gonna need way way way longer than this to recover. running one cycle is one thing, but running back to back to back to back cycles like you have been doing without giving yourself time to recover this is totally normal.

also it is false that tren takes a long time to recover. see my logs.. i recovered quickly and so have plenty of guys i have helped through PM's.. just not true that tren is somehow more tougher to recover from than other AAS. thats a total myth and there is no evidence that is the case

He left that part out about running cycle after cycle.

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[muscleaddiction]

without knowing your LH no one can speculate on anything yet.

secondly you were on previously for long periods of times bro, we have talked a lot the past month or two. you are gonna need way way way longer than this to recover. running one cycle is one thing, but running back to back to back to back cycles like you have been doing without giving yourself time to recover this is totally normal.

also it is false that tren takes a long time to recover. see my logs.. i recovered quickly and so have plenty of guys i have helped through PM's.. just not true that tren is somehow more tougher to recover from than other AAS. thats a total myth and there is no evidence that is the case

Hmmm...so the truth comes out, back to back to back cycles??? Some information left out?

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[stevesmi]

This^^^. Also unleashed raises free test not total test. And it should have been ran alongside postcycle, daa, and forma with the clomid. I know tribulus is not enough and Im not sure what that other product is. Did you run hcgenerate oncycle and do an hcg blast before pct?



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yep this is what I was thinking too.

unleashed or any natty supp is gonna make you feel good during PCT, but its up to the body to recover. you can use clomid, hcg to cheat the LH but its still up to the body to recover in the end. it takes time

 

[stevesmi]

I will bet my left nut that that 73 total test is NOT your own body producing test at all. that is the remnants of the test left from your cycle showing up.

your LH is probably at .01 and you are shutdown.

until ALL THE TEST is out of your system your LH will NOT pick up yet. this is why its important to stay on PCT and not stop right now. but again this is my best guess, without seeing what your LH is we cannot make a more accurate guess as to what is going on.

if you didn't allow yourself ample time to recover in between your previous cycles it could take months for you to recover.

 

[shuni]

Like i said, i dont mean to offend anyone who recommends low doses or other supps. I just told the OP what seemed to work for me and what didnt work, he can take it or leave it. Sorry if it "made no sense" to you. Just trying to help

 

[Nelson Montana]

Do not do this!!!!!!!!

Running HCG will just suppress you.

You need to be trying to recover and should of done this before coming off cycle.

Running HCG and Clomid together will not help you recover at all because you will be suppressed by the HCG.

That is incorrect.

HCG will neither suppress or restore HPTA function. It just gets the testicles producing testosterone for a weeks or so, which makes it a good "kickstart" to recovery and nothing more.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Like i said, i dont mean to offend anyone who recommends low doses or other supps. I just told the OP what seemed to work for me and what didnt work, he can take it or leave it. Sorry if it "made no sense" to you. Just trying to help

I understand. But the information is wrong.

 

[blue_steel74]

Ok, ill answer each of ur posts individually tomorrow when i have time. But to sum up everything, i have ran 6 cycles since 2010 and the first couple had shitty pcts bc i was in the dark about pct. but the last 3 have had alot of OTC test boosters and clomid. Now i didnt come across EF til last summer, so ive done the best i can so far. But yes, i have ran numerous cycles back to back and have had a script for HRT since January. I ran it at my prescribed dose when i got it and when i decided to stop it, i was 2 weeks from contest prep so i was on for 7 months this year without HCG.

So, yes i have probably made some poor choices but i took all precautions about ancillarys besides hcg or hcgen. And yes me and Steve have talked alot about some things, so dont think your advice has fallen on deaf ears Steve.

 

[blue_steel74]

A few problems with this. First of all tren is harsh and 12 weeks of 60 mgs of an oral is waaaay too much.

POST-CYCLE by Protein Factory? That could help with your numbers and it won;t raise test. UNLEASHED would have increased Free T, but you obviously started it too late.

Clomid will hinder recovery. I know that goes against the standard internet thinking but reality is different that of the internet.

Tribulus can increase estrogen if LH is too low.

Never heard of Resurrect. Are you sure it isn't a prohormone? If so, that will suppress you.

What products were NTBM?!?!???

It looks like you just did things the wrong way. Stop everything and start using UNLEASHED and BRIDGE and give it a couple of weeks.

I didnt run 12 weeks of an oral. 6 weeks of var, not 12

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok everyone, i have something id like to talk about. I just finished my pct about 3 weeks ago and had bloodwork ran last week. All of my hormones were in a normal range except my test levels. They were 75. The following was my cycle and pct. if anyone can tell me why i havent recovered id appreciate it.

Cycle

Weeks 1-12 Test @350/week
Weeks 3-12 Mast E @400/week
Weeks 6-12 Tren Ace @100/EOD
Weeks 6-12 Var @60mg/week

PCT

Post Cycle
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Tribulus 2400mg/day for 4 weeks
Epic Labs Ressurect (natty test booster)

Currently been running Unleashed for a couple weeks when i had bloods ran.

Somebody tell me whats goin on. Id hate to start callin NTBM products bullshit, but im seriously starting to wonder

What was your free T?