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Quick Question..335 33 times is
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anotherbutters
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The accuracy of the estimate is going to reduce as the number of reps you're converting between gets bigger. You might be able to accurately estimate someone's 1RM from their 3RM, but not as easily from their 10RM. As for going from their 33RM to 1RM, I don't think it's worth even trying because 33 reps is more a feat of endurance than raw 1 rep strength.
There are a couple of calculator links off this page: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4786862&postcount=393
There are a couple of calculator links off this page: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4786862&postcount=393
That's really high reps, you won't get a good carryover to 1RM from there or even 3/5/8. Formulas will be useless. Just too far removed. Not to say it isn't hard or a real test of mental fortitude etc...but for the purposes of purely building or demonstrating strength in an absolute or sport setting doesn't help much (although no doubt this is a generally fairly strong individual). Kind of like some guy saying he can vertical at least 18 inches 20 times back to back. What does that really mean for his single best vertical or jumping ability?
cubuff27
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335 squat 33 times for a high school kid? I have a real hard time believing that one.
Funny though I just did a 225 rep test on the bench on Friday just to see what number I could put up. 30 was my max and I am still sore today, but I was doing the calculator and 225 10 times means I could bench 300lbs. I can probably do 380-90 on a good day right now...so those next 20 reps only kick my max up another 80-90 pounds. don't know if that carries over but I would bet it would especially with legs. So I would guess no more than a 550lbs squat. Surely someone around hear squats around that and could let us know how many reps they could do with 335? Seems like a good challege to throw down to me!
Funny though I just did a 225 rep test on the bench on Friday just to see what number I could put up. 30 was my max and I am still sore today, but I was doing the calculator and 225 10 times means I could bench 300lbs. I can probably do 380-90 on a good day right now...so those next 20 reps only kick my max up another 80-90 pounds. don't know if that carries over but I would bet it would especially with legs. So I would guess no more than a 550lbs squat. Surely someone around hear squats around that and could let us know how many reps they could do with 335? Seems like a good challege to throw down to me!
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Tweakle
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I wonder if he was related to the guy I heard about at work the other day - arms twice the size of mine and could do 500lbs skullcrushers for 10 reps.
I'd guess a 33 rep max would be anywhere from 500-600lbs assuming training for a specific goal. Not a typical high schooler's # (assuming a full squat)
I'd guess a 33 rep max would be anywhere from 500-600lbs assuming training for a specific goal. Not a typical high schooler's # (assuming a full squat)
BiggT
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I find that strength does not carry over well to reps over 10. If you just get plain stronger, most guys can up what they do for 8's or 10's.....with numbers like 15, 20, 30, it is dependant on both your conditioning and the development/percentage of slow-twitch fibers.
Strength/max calculators can be taken with a grain of salt at best when determining a 1RM.....but with reps over 10, in my opinion, they can be thrown out the window.
There are some guys with 750 squats who could not rep 335 20 times.....there are some guys with 550 squats who could rep 335 for a set of 50......it depends both on the individual and the training they do and their conditioning level.
You really cannot make an accurate judgement of a 1rm with reps in that range.
All that said, it is impressive for a high school kid if they're real squats, if they're knee twitches, then of course they don't count, lol.
Strength/max calculators can be taken with a grain of salt at best when determining a 1RM.....but with reps over 10, in my opinion, they can be thrown out the window.
There are some guys with 750 squats who could not rep 335 20 times.....there are some guys with 550 squats who could rep 335 for a set of 50......it depends both on the individual and the training they do and their conditioning level.
You really cannot make an accurate judgement of a 1rm with reps in that range.
All that said, it is impressive for a high school kid if they're real squats, if they're knee twitches, then of course they don't count, lol.
BiggT
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Tweakle said:
Tweakle, that SAME guy must have a lot of relatives. A few weeks back I was doing jump shrugs, and a guy came up to me and counted the plates on each side, then asked how many reps I was using. I told him 8's and then he proceeded to tell me that his cousin uses that weight for sets of 12 and is twice my size. I just responded with "yeah, that's cool".....what the fuck do guys like this expect you to say?? lol
djeclipse
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BiggT said:
Everyone knows someone that is faster, stronger, better then you. I don't understand why people always feel the need to brag about someone as if they were the person themselves.
It reminds me of back in the days when I'd go to the local street drag races (on the back roads). I'd show up and race who ever, and no matter how many peope, I beat there was always some tool taling about how their buddy has a 9 second street car. What the fuck do I care about your brother, cousin, friend, uncle, if you're not them STFU about them.
Sorry to go off topic but I can't stand people like this. You should have told that guy unless he could perform this "great" feat he was talking about to shut the fuck up!
Even if it was based on a 3 rep max there'd still be a wide variance. Some people can lift a higher percentage of their one rep max than others. regardless of how much their one rep max actually is.
enigma4dub
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its an epidemic!!!!musketeer said:
LiftingDukkha
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Here are my own personal percentages. I tend to do more for reps as % of my max, than most people in my experience.
1 RM - 100%
2 RM - 93%
3 RM - 91.5%
4 RM - 90%
5 RM - 87.5%
6 RM - 84.25
7 RM - 82%
8 RM - 81%
10 RM - 79%
12 RM - 76%
15 RM - 71%
20 RM - 66%
25 RM/above - 60% or less
The higher reps, the lighter weight, & the easier it is to move the weight the entire range simply from the initial concentric contraction -- therefore, at 25 reps & above (especially), clear-cut percentages are almost impossible to calculate.
Generally, if you can do 25 or more reps, it's no more than 60% of your 1 RM max. 33 reps is probably about 55-60% of that guy's max (IF they were real-form squats!), which would extrapolate out to 550 to 600 lbs max.
1 RM - 100%
2 RM - 93%
3 RM - 91.5%
4 RM - 90%
5 RM - 87.5%
6 RM - 84.25
7 RM - 82%
8 RM - 81%
10 RM - 79%
12 RM - 76%
15 RM - 71%
20 RM - 66%
25 RM/above - 60% or less
The higher reps, the lighter weight, & the easier it is to move the weight the entire range simply from the initial concentric contraction -- therefore, at 25 reps & above (especially), clear-cut percentages are almost impossible to calculate.
Generally, if you can do 25 or more reps, it's no more than 60% of your 1 RM max. 33 reps is probably about 55-60% of that guy's max (IF they were real-form squats!), which would extrapolate out to 550 to 600 lbs max.
Another issue is how one trains. There is a big difference in people who train in 3-8 range banging out a 25-30 rep set one day than someone who is spending a period of time training in the 20-30 rep range. Even with equal 30 rep maxes, the guy who trains in 3-5 is going to crush the 20-30 repper in 1RM performance.
