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wc115

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It was my exam week so decided to rest for that week. My problem is that when i took the week off, all my maxes dropped. most noticeably the squat and bench press. my max for squat was 5 reps at 275 but after a week i was not able to do 225 for 3 reps.

i noticed that this was not just a bad day or anything because this happens a lot. (such as resting for more than 2-3 days...my max will drop)

my question would be...is this normal? and how should i fix this...if i can...thanks
 
Could be normal - there's a range of what happens after a short layoff. A few come back strong, others need to rebuild.

One thing that could help is to log your activities on your off days. Just because you're not in the gym doesn't mean you're not training. Keep your protein, carbs, and fats up. Make sure you get enough rest.

Some of it comes with experience. Squats coming off a few extra days were a lot easier after 7 years lifting as opposed to 2-3.

The main thing is try not to obsess on it. It doesn't sound like it's a serious problem, just a temporary setback. Since you already know it's going to happen, just roll with the punches and do the best you can.
 
Normal...

Training 101; Rest = Grow...

~EZ
 
It was my exam week so decided to rest for that week. My problem is that when i took the week off, all my maxes dropped. most noticeably the squat and bench press. my max for squat was 5 reps at 275 but after a week i was not able to do 225 for 3 reps.

i noticed that this was not just a bad day or anything because this happens a lot. (such as resting for more than 2-3 days...my max will drop)

my question would be...is this normal? and how should i fix this...if i can...thanks

Shannigans. Unless you starved yourself that entire week off there is no way your squat dropped from 275x5 to 225x3 in 7 days, its got to be mental.

You couldn't lose that much even if you tried.
 
Shannigans. Unless you starved yourself that entire week off there is no way your squat dropped from 275x5 to 225x3 in 7 days, its got to be mental.

You couldn't lose that much even if you tried.

That's what I was thinking. As long as your diet stayed the same, there's no reason to lose THAT much strength, if any.
 
How many times a week are you squatting? And for how long have you been squatting? (Also, if its because your legs are sore, then try doing foam rolling and/or doing some dynamic warmups before your squat - though they are considered cardio, your legs will be loose and have the blood in them to pump out more)
 
Shannigans. Unless you starved yourself that entire week off there is no way your squat dropped from 275x5 to 225x3 in 7 days, its got to be mental.

You couldn't lose that much even if you tried.

I missed this....yeah, that doesn't seem right...

~EZ
 
thanks for the replies
i always stretch...so i guess i'll try to stretch more? or more emphasis on the legs.
for diet...i am sure i eat more when i'm not working out
it is definitely mental...just not sure how much...because i know my numbers are dropping...but before i workout i try to prep myself. i always tell myself i am supposed to be able to do more ...since almost everyone goes higher after resting.

the full week rest seems to drop my numbers a lot
during regular weeks...
from my observations my monday workouts drop as well but not as much (i can't go to the gym on the weekends)

i've been squatting for 3 years. i used to squat 4-5 times a week (but its like heavy/light/heavy/light/heavy) i noticed that if i don't do the light squatting my numbers drop.

right now i am squatting 2-3 times a week...it should not be because of soreness because i rested and i am not sore at all.
 
Training less (or any BP) 3 x a weeks seems a little excessive....unless you're doing a full body workout M-W-F for example...

~EZ
 
I'm guessing by you having exam week in the summer you must be a college student. Are you increasing your weights on squats weekly or atleast regularly? Maybe your body is just getting used to doing the weight and isn't actually strengthening those muscles because your not pushing them? Just a thought

Otherwise, its definately mental, in which case try forcing your way through it, focus on pushing the ground down and keeping your abs tight. If you keep good form at those kind of weights the worst that'll happen is you'll collapse (i.e. have saftey bars in place - slightly below waist level), but you shouldn't get hurt, just let the bars catch the weight and go forward and catch yourself. I think I remember seeing some stats a while back about how squats were actually a safer workout, done correctly that is, than bench and deads.
 
I would assume that this is a combination of mental and physical issues.

9/10 recreational lifters completely alter their lifestyle for weeks that they do not train, without really knowing what they are doing to themselves. It is as if they subconsciously say to themselves "If I am not working out..., then there is no reason for me to be on my normal structured schedule." So they alter their lifestyle to something that barely resembles what is required to support physical progress. Common mistakes are as follows:

1 - You eat less. This is a combination of your appetite decreasing (due to a decrease in daily/weekly caloric expenditure), and the fear of "getting fat if I eat all that food when not working out." A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, mistake.

2 - You drink less fluids. Since you are not as active, you inadvertently decrease your daily/weekly net water loss (less sweating), therefore you don't "feel thirsty." Again..., this is a huge mistake.

3 - You sleep less. Most treat their week(s) off as a bit of a "vacation" so to speak, so they go out with friends, stay up playing video games, or watch TV until the wee hours of the morning. Some just can't sleep because they have too much energy due to lack of caloric output. Disrupting your Circadian Rhythm is a huge bodybuilding no no.

The combination of these common mistakes cause a complete reversal of three important aspects of your lifestyle. So..., your body panics, and tries to adjust to the new environment. When you go back to the gym, your body will be in a quite lower state of hydration (not exactly dehydrated, your body just has a new homeostatic level of hydration lower than when you were training regularly.) Since hydration and glycogen stores have a directly proportional relationship, your will be training with depleted glycogen stores. The alteration to eating habits also lead to this physical adaptation.

Inadvertently forcing your body to adapt in the opposite direction like this is quite common for "normal weight lifters" and will no doubt make you "weaker" in your lifts. HOWEVER..., this sudden weakness is more likely due to lowered metabolic reserves, as I described above, than musculoskeletal atrophy. It would take longer than 7 days to cause substantial atrophy of skeletal muscle unless you went to the extreme, as one bro mentioned already.


When you go back to the gym, you will have the attitude that "this always happens to me after a layoff," so subconsciously you have already convinced yourself that you will be weaker before you even walk in the door. So forget about any fight or flight response, because you will be mentally passive and insecure.

So if you were my client, your caloric intake would remain the same during your off week, but I would manipulate your macros a bit to control the release of insulin. I would also increase your water intake to support formation of new glycogen stores. Extra vitamin C, E, B-complex, and Beta Carotene should be taken to lower free radicals, which will encourage faster healing. And an additional 1-2 hours of sleep per night.

The bottom line in ALL bodybuilding endeavors is placing the body in the PROPER ENVIRONMENT to allow favorable adaptation to take place. If you are not sure of what that entails, you might want to get someone to help you along. We all started at the bottom, so we all had to learn this craft from someone or somewhere. I hope this helps. Good luck to you bro.
 
I would assume that this is a combination of mental and physical issues.

9/10 recreational lifters completely alter their lifestyle for weeks that they do not train, without really knowing what they are doing to themselves. It is as if they subconsciously say to themselves "If I am not working out..., then there is no reason for me to be on my normal structured schedule." So they alter their lifestyle to something that barely resembles what is required to support physical progress. Common mistakes are as follows:

1 - You eat less. This is a combination of your appetite decreasing (due to a decrease in daily/weekly caloric expenditure), and the fear of "getting fat if I eat all that food when not working out." A HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, mistake.

2 - You drink less fluids. Since you are not as active, you inadvertently decrease your daily/weekly net water loss (less sweating), therefore you don't "feel thirsty." Again..., this is a huge mistake.

3 - You sleep less. Most treat their week(s) off as a bit of a "vacation" so to speak, so they go out with friends, stay up playing video games, or watch TV until the wee hours of the morning. Some just can't sleep because they have too much energy due to lack of caloric output. Disrupting your Circadian Rhythm is a huge bodybuilding no no.

The combination of these common mistakes cause a complete reversal of three important aspects of your lifestyle. So..., your body panics, and tries to adjust to the new environment. When you go back to the gym, your body will be in a quite lower state of hydration (not exactly dehydrated, your body just has a new homeostatic level of hydration lower than when you were training regularly.) Since hydration and glycogen stores have a directly proportional relationship, your will be training with depleted glycogen stores. The alteration to eating habits also lead to this physical adaptation.

Inadvertently forcing your body to adapt in the opposite direction like this is quite common for "normal weight lifters" and will no doubt make you "weaker" in your lifts. HOWEVER..., this sudden weakness is more likely due to lowered metabolic reserves, as I described above, than musculoskeletal atrophy. It would take longer than 7 days to cause substantial atrophy of skeletal muscle unless you went to the extreme, as one bro mentioned already.


When you go back to the gym, you will have the attitude that "this always happens to me after a layoff," so subconsciously you have already convinced yourself that you will be weaker before you even walk in the door. So forget about any fight or flight response, because you will be mentally passive and insecure.

So if you were my client, your caloric intake would remain the same during your off week, but I would manipulate your macros a bit to control the release of insulin. I would also increase your water intake to support formation of new glycogen stores. Extra vitamin C, E, B-complex, and Beta Carotene should be taken to lower free radicals, which will encourage faster healing. And an additional 1-2 hours of sleep per night.

The bottom line in ALL bodybuilding endeavors is placing the body in the PROPER ENVIRONMENT to allow favorable adaptation to take place. If you are not sure of what that entails, you might want to get someone to help you along. We all started at the bottom, so we all had to learn this craft from someone or somewhere. I hope this helps. Good luck to you bro.


Mke this ^^^^^ a sticky

~EZ
 
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