Question for Retabolil...

[ForumObserver]

I remember a few years ago you would do some pretty big DBol-only cycles. So I figure you would be a good person to get an opinion on this:

T-Bol vs. D-Bol

I looked back about 20 pages or so on this forum and didnt find any great information on the matter as far as personal experience. I know TBol just recently resurfaced from the UG labs, so maybe thats why not a whole lot of experience. I realize TBol has less sides (due to less activity on androgen receptor), but how is it as far as pumps and weight gain? I assume you have used both, so what do you prefer?

 

[DieselGunz]

I am not Ret but I will chime in

Basically it is all about goals, Dbol gives awesome strength, inceased mood, gets u horny as hell, and quite a bit of water weight

Tbol gives, strength increase, slight increase in sexdrive and lean harder gains, with no sides

Tbol is easier to hold on to the gains also with proper PCT

 

[gettinripped]

the pumps on tbol are rather amazing. your shit will be hurting. absolutely no sides.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Im using tbol again for the 2nd time at 100mg/day. They do make you hard and strong, but dont kick in as fast as dbol. And the strength increase is much better with dbol. But you have the bloat then too. Not with tbol, no bloat at all. So it would be matter of preference of what your goals are. I think Ret runs high doses, I might try that sometime. Ive always used 50-70mg/day with great results. I think Ret was way over 100mg/day!

 

[DieselGunz]

Damn 100mgs a day WOW, u must drink alot of water I get kidney pains at 50

 

[ForumObserver]

Im using tbol again for the 2nd time at 100mg/day. They do make you hard and strong, but dont kick in as fast as dbol. And the strength increase is much better with dbol. But you have the bloat then too. Not with tbol, no bloat at all. So it would be matter of preference of what your goals are. I think Ret runs high doses, I might try that sometime. Ive always used 50-70mg/day with great results. I think Ret was way over 100mg/day!

In the past I remember him running over 100mgs of DBol per day. Thats why I was curious on his thoughts of TBol.

My 'supplementation' is all about giving me an extra edge. If I can train hard and eat good for a 3lb increase/week then I am happy. I am not looking to shoot up 30lbs in the shortterm only to fight at kicking my natural mechanisms back into shape while trying to hold on to super-natural gains.

It is definitely strange how different bodies respond to different things. I have run Test at over 750mg/wk with EQ and it didnt produce as much gains and satisfaction as running Proviron with 30mgs of DBol per day. Go figure I guess.


Which brings me to my next question for those in the know...

From my reading it seemed TBol had a similar effect of Proviron (binds to the SHBG) So would running Proviron with TBol be advantageous? Because for me, I would never run Dbol without proviron.

 

[Beachboy6294]

I have never tried tbol but I am looking forward to trying it! It sounds awesome!

 

[DMI]

Damn 100mgs a day WOW, u must drink alot of water I get kidney pains at 50

Most likely seemingly constant lower back pumps, not kidney pains bro. I used to think I was getting kidney pains too. I get this from winny as well as DBol.

 

[steelmass]

DAMN! I get real bad back pumps off of dbol and winny! I hope t-bol doesn't do this to me... I gotta get my deadlift up this cycle!

 

[DMI]

TBol did not give me lower back pumps.

DAMN! I get real bad back pumps off of dbol and winny! I hope t-bol doesn't do this to me... I gotta get my deadlift up this cycle!