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psizzle_8
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Good luck!
Question for my first sustanon cycle, thanks!
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Swiftdemise
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and no offense radar but ive looked at your pic and sure thats a nice physique for someone of your age but there is someone in my Gym who is 65 and is bigger then you naturally has never taken steroids and hates them plain and simple. makes me feel much better.
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I feel like you just lost your own argument.
He did that naturally so that should tell you it's possible.
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Oh! I'm so devastated., sure no matter how bad or big you are theres always some that will knock you off of your high horse.
OP I've been bustin my ass in the gym for years and never used juice. It's not a waste, you'll get stronger, fitter and gain experience and knowledge. It'll also give you a solid foundation so that when you are ready to juice you'll get better results. Did you know steroids work better on muscles that are already well conditioned?
I can't show you dead bodies but I've known 2 blokes who had to get rushed to hospital cos they just collapsed, some gland or other shut down or something. That was down to their steroid abuse.
And honestly man, the amount of times I've heard "this geezer in the gym does this / told me this and he's huge" doesn't mean shit the guy might have great genetics, I got a mate who comes to the gym once or twice every couple of months, does fuck all real training but still pisses all over my best lifts. And no he doesn't secretly take steroids. Oh and saying "certain gang members do it.." or whatever is just plain idiotic. Yeah use a gang member with a 25 year life expectancy and form as long as yet arm as a flippin role model! Smart move!
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I can't show you dead bodies but I've known 2 blokes who had to get rushed to hospital cos they just collapsed, some gland or other shut down or something. That was down to their steroid abuse.
And honestly man, the amount of times I've heard "this geezer in the gym does this / told me this and he's huge" doesn't mean shit the guy might have great genetics, I got a mate who comes to the gym once or twice every couple of months, does fuck all real training but still pisses all over my best lifts. And no he doesn't secretly take steroids. Oh and saying "certain gang members do it.." or whatever is just plain idiotic. Yeah use a gang member with a 25 year life expectancy and form as long as yet arm as a flippin role model! Smart move!
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Hmmmm lol I could tell you the real world dangers of starting to early but kinda don't really feel like it now after that outburst ! I started at 16 I am now 35 (thankfully) and I have REAL world issues from starting to early , issues I wish I could take back, thing is at 16 , 20 , 21 you don't really care about some of the issues you ARE going to suffer from , and there in lies the challenge for some of us "older" folk , trying to offer advice, getting the message across that what you feel is important now and what you feel is unimportant changes drastically as you mature as an individual !
Radar looking at your other thread about underage posters etc, I think we need. To put our heads together and try find an approach that beat works getting through to them, flaming doesn't work, being nice and taking the time to explain why doesn't work either ! And what truly bugs me is we don't flame , we don't take time out of our day to explain because we want to be pricks or because we feel that we have somehow earned the right to take AAS , it done because we don't want YOU fucking yourself up , knowing full well your going to FUCK yourself up
Take that how you want !
Radar looking at your other thread about underage posters etc, I think we need. To put our heads together and try find an approach that beat works getting through to them, flaming doesn't work, being nice and taking the time to explain why doesn't work either ! And what truly bugs me is we don't flame , we don't take time out of our day to explain because we want to be pricks or because we feel that we have somehow earned the right to take AAS , it done because we don't want YOU fucking yourself up , knowing full well your going to FUCK yourself up
Take that how you want !
you are 134 pounds.. that is a stick. but you know what? like radar i used to weight that when i was about your age . i did not touch juice till i was 28 ..
you said you don't want to bust your ass, so you just want a shortcut.. but there are no short cuts. you won't accomplish good anything running AAS cause you don't know how to eat or workout. the only thing you will accomplish is screwing up your hormones and impeding your ability to reach your genetic potential.
you said you don't want to bust your ass, so you just want a shortcut.. but there are no short cuts. you won't accomplish good anything running AAS cause you don't know how to eat or workout. the only thing you will accomplish is screwing up your hormones and impeding your ability to reach your genetic potential.
i doubt you are gonna listen. you are just in a position were you dont have the correct knowledge to make the right decision and you dont have the courage to do the right thing. if you did that would be honorable... but you dont.
anyway.. you have no idea what you are talking about.. it wont take 4 years to get big.
if you followed RADAR's advice which he gives out for free all the time you could gain 20lbs in less then 1 year. i bet you $1000 that is true.
i also bet that if you just do roids now.. in 1 year or 2 years from now .. you wont make the same gains that you would if you followed his advice.
so if you do roids you will look better for 3 -6 months most likely.. but then it wont matter.
you dont have any experience in the gym or what routine to even use.. so how can you make any statements about how long it will take???
you dont have any expereince following a good diet... so how can you say how long it will take???
you have never done mma so how do you know if sust is right for you and your training?
you have so many things against you that sust is not gonna help you in the long run.. short term.. maybe.. but only for a few months... a blink of an eye for someone who is 20.. but you dont realize that and with your attitude you cant even understand it.. 20year old kids.. think they know it all and generally refuse to listen.. and it sad because you have the most to gain if you truly would listen.
and yes btw.. ive been in your shoes.. lighter actually.. competed nationally at 55kg.. wanted to bulk and do roids.. was told i was an idiot.. but i listened.. i changed the way i ate.. the way i trained and got ridiculous results.. my most recent national championship was at 81kg..
so by taking the advice of the mods and vets here I was able to put on over 50lbs of muscle.. and i gained a ton of knowledge as well..
i hope you can step back.. look at this from an outsiders point of view and make the right decision.
good luck
anyway.. you have no idea what you are talking about.. it wont take 4 years to get big.
if you followed RADAR's advice which he gives out for free all the time you could gain 20lbs in less then 1 year. i bet you $1000 that is true.
i also bet that if you just do roids now.. in 1 year or 2 years from now .. you wont make the same gains that you would if you followed his advice.
so if you do roids you will look better for 3 -6 months most likely.. but then it wont matter.
you dont have any experience in the gym or what routine to even use.. so how can you make any statements about how long it will take???
you dont have any expereince following a good diet... so how can you say how long it will take???
you have never done mma so how do you know if sust is right for you and your training?
you have so many things against you that sust is not gonna help you in the long run.. short term.. maybe.. but only for a few months... a blink of an eye for someone who is 20.. but you dont realize that and with your attitude you cant even understand it.. 20year old kids.. think they know it all and generally refuse to listen.. and it sad because you have the most to gain if you truly would listen.
and yes btw.. ive been in your shoes.. lighter actually.. competed nationally at 55kg.. wanted to bulk and do roids.. was told i was an idiot.. but i listened.. i changed the way i ate.. the way i trained and got ridiculous results.. my most recent national championship was at 81kg..
so by taking the advice of the mods and vets here I was able to put on over 50lbs of muscle.. and i gained a ton of knowledge as well..
i hope you can step back.. look at this from an outsiders point of view and make the right decision.
good luck
You are getting help, you just don't like the sound of it.
If you think its a waste of time to lift for 4 years, you need to stay away from juice period. This shit is not for people who want to get big for summer and piss away the rest of the year.
You're about to seriously fk up your body and spend the next 20 years depressed until you start HRT and have to see and endocrynologist for the rest of your life, happens to a TON of abusers.
We do help the under 21 crowd here, just not by giving them advice on how to be stupid with drugs. Do it right, or don't do it period.
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If you think its a waste of time to lift for 4 years, you need to stay away from juice period. This shit is not for people who want to get big for summer and piss away the rest of the year.
You're about to seriously fk up your body and spend the next 20 years depressed until you start HRT and have to see and endocrynologist for the rest of your life, happens to a TON of abusers.
We do help the under 21 crowd here, just not by giving them advice on how to be stupid with drugs. Do it right, or don't do it period.
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