Quality muscle

[newbie_1988]

GUYS,

I would like to discuss bulking.Every sucessful lifter knows that hard training and good nutrition is the key to sucess to bulk or cut right? My question is why so many guys use deca/dbols and anadrols to bulk? instead of cycle like test e/prop , trenbolone winstrol or masteron? alot of guys who use deca and dbols are full of water retention they can gain a good amount of size but most of the size are water weight they look big in a shirt but without the shirt they look bloated! and any way they loose most of the size/water when they cut so why dont many guys choos to bulk using hardening agents such as winstrol and tren with test e for instance? In my opinion one can gain more quality 'hard look' muscle all year round with these compunds.we all know AAS are not muscle in an amp/vial one nedds to eat and train smart. I think even the body type determines which AAS is best for you for instance in my opinion an endomorph should stay away from anadrol or deca + dirty bulk he will gain size but he will gain an incredible ammount of bf level%. What is your opinions guys out there?

 

[kc17]

GUYS,

I would like to discuss bulking.Every sucessful lifter knows that hard training and good nutrition is the key to sucess to bulk or cut right? My question is why so many guys use deca/dbols and anadrols to bulk? instead of cycle like test e/prop , trenbolone winstrol or masteron? alot of guys who use deca and dbols are full of water retention they can gain a good amount of size but most of the size are water weight they look big in a shirt but without the shirt they look bloated! and any way they loose most of the size/water when they cut so why dont many guys choos to bulk using hardening agents such as winstrol and tren with test e for instance? In my opinion one can gain more quality 'hard look' muscle all year round with these compunds.we all know AAS are not muscle in an amp/vial one nedds to eat and train smart. I think even the body type determines which AAS is best for you for instance in my opinion an endomorph should stay away from anadrol or deca + dirty bulk he will gain size but he will gain an incredible ammount of bf level%. What is your opinions guys out there?

I agreed with 100 %. Although I really enjoy my Deca cycles ,you'll drop a lot of water weight hence the dissapointed in some ppl.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You need to gain a certain amount of size in order to hold on to size so there's some logic to agents that put on a lot of water weight, but I've always felt you don't need stuff with nasty sides to do it. Food and creatine will put on size! (Two BIG BLASTS a day will put on SIZE!) Then emphasize the anabolic nature of steroids to grow long lasting muscle. That's why I love Primo. Primo, test and 20 GEAR caps a day will grow REAL muscle that lasts if you train hard enough.

 

[thelastmrbigg15]

any body ever think that muscle is 70% water? and water is the by product of energy production? the only bad thing is what bodybuilders call spill over they have too many carbs and the warter spills out of the muscle into the fat/skin layer making them softer a simple diet and AI during cycle will help the water spill over. also water helps transfer macronutrients... just food for thought

 

[newbie_1988]

any body ever think that muscle is 70% water? and water is the by product of energy production? the only bad thing is what bodybuilders call spill over they have too many carbs and the warter spills out of the muscle into the fat/skin layer making them softer a simple diet and AI during cycle will help the water spill over. also water helps transfer macronutrients... just food for thought

I think you have a point mate I agree with what you said. When there is an excessive amount of water it will sit between your skin and your muscle therefore it will creates that soft look. that is the reason for example why many bodybuilders argue to use tren higher than test when speaking about enathate esters some say run 400mg of tren e and 250mg of test e weekly. Once I read that tren and test fight for the same receptors so one should use small amount of test as base and run a higher amount of tren as the main aas. I never tried this approach because Im afraid of developing the infamous tren d**c. I think that if someone ue this approach he will get good results needles to say diet and training needs to be in check. any one guys ever ran tren higher than test? if yes what were results and sides?

 

[dylangemelli]

everyone has their own preference on what look they are aiming for and has their reasoning behind it... for some, they realize they won't hold on to the gains but they want it for the now... others, just enjoy the feeling, and others need to build the foundation to have something to work with...

now, personally, i won't touch any of the wetter compounds... its not for me and its not anything i would ever be aiming for... i can't knock others preferences though because we all have different goals and wants...

for me, i would tend to agree more with the op in terms of using hardeners with test for size and hardening but thats my personal preference... everyone has their own logic and want...

i fucking love hardeners like mast, anavar, etc... for me, they allow me to get to levels that I was not sure even possible... now that i know it is, i utilize them to their most...

 

[RickRock13]

IMO everything has its time and place. There are times that the wetter compounds make perfect sense and times when they don't. Then you also have personal preferences too. I will run wet compounds, but only in the winter since I don't mind a little bloat then. Obviously the spring and summer is a great time for things like Masteron, winny, and Var. Different strokes for different folks. Choices are good to have

 

[Jack steel]

IMO everything has its time and place. There are times that the wetter compounds make perfect sense and times when they don't. Then you also have personal preferences too. I will run wet compounds, but only in the winter since I don't mind a little bloat then. Obviously the spring and summer is a great time for things like Masteron, winny, and Var. Different strokes for different folks. Choices are good to have

Indeed. Love me some choices.


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