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Purposely Lowering Test Levels For Script!

flexdaddyz71

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Knowing that my insurance will cover hormone replacement therapy and anti-aging (H G H), I'm wondering if there is a good way to purposely lower my test levels for a long term script. I had mine checked last year and got a 670 level (clean). A buddy of mine told me that getting very little sleep and a couple of beers right before your blood test would knock your test levels down. Is he full of shit or what??? Is there a proven method for temporary method for getting the level way down just for blood test day. I'm currently on a mid range dosage of Test-E Please don't flame, I'm lost on this one. It would be cool if this is possible.
 
I never tried anything like this... I remember hearing once someone talking about taking only Dbols for a week before your test will lower your natty levels or something like that, OH and don't beat off for 10 days because on the 10th day your Test level drops dramatically.. lol.. maybe I misread though, i'm interested also
 
yes run a nice long cycle of test and deca then dont do any pct and go in for a test 4 weeks after cycle...test should be nice and low.
 
I know if you party for a couple days strait and drink alot of alchoal and sleep as little as possible for a wk and bascially treat your body like shit for a week that will do it. but the d bol trick sounds better I hope someone knows.
 
needtogetaas said:
yes run a nice long cycle of test and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - then dont do any PCT - post cycle therapy - and go in for a test 4 weeks after cycle...test should be nice and low.
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This is the sure thing.
 
Much easier. Take 25mgs dball for a week, then 3 days later go in with little sleep.

You'll be low.
 
I've done it successfully. Either Nelsons or needto's advice will work. I did test then waited 3 weeks. Worked like a charm.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Much easier. Take 25mgs dball for a week, then 3 days later go in with little sleep.

You'll be low.
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he nelson what you think about this...I know a guy that took birth contole pills for a few weeks then got tested and had very low test and very high estro lol hell it worked for him.
 
how much gear can you get from the doc guys?? and how ofton do they check you again to see if you still need it .
 
Nelson Montana said:
Much easier. Take 25mgs dball for a week, then 3 days later go in with little sleep.

You'll be low.
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do you not continue after day 7 ?? does that mean you go for a week then stop compleatly then go in with no sleep.
 
getbig1234 said:
how much gear can you get from the doc guys?? and how ofton do they check you again to see if you still need it .
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they won't give u no more than 200mgs week..... but ofcoarse u can save your vials overtime to make it a bigger cycle....


but to me that seems like a hassle
 
Borris... Exactly what I was thinking and thats what my buddy has done with the same doctor. Bad thing, is the doc will script out only 10ml of cyp 200 every 8 weeks. I would do exacty that... save it. Plus with my job, it's highly unlikely they would dt for gear, but wouldn't it be nice to write that down on your list of scripts before the test... if they infact tested for it. It will be fun trying. I'll be out a frickin $20 co-pay if it doesn't pan out... big deal for the effort. Oh yeah! I was also told its good to tell the doc that you have no sex drive and you feel flat all the time. No brainer...
 
Ghost... This doc will script out test-c, but not much. My buddy has been under therapy for over 2 1/2 years and does a half every five days and feels great. Lasts him about 8 weeks. He tested in the low 200's the first time and get blood drawn I think every 6 months. His last test was in the high 800's. So, I know it's worth it. Of course, he adds a extra to the mix. The doc never questions higher levels.
 
This is a great informal post almost all of us who have insurance can do this most doctors dont give a fuck, its almost like they get a kickback they love to write scripts, my doc said as long as my bloodwork is proof than he cannot get in any trouble at all its good for both parties in the situation. please everone contribute more info. the law is always trying to bust us, this is kinda a good way of pissing in there face!
 
I would combine nelson's and needto's idea. I dont know how long suppression takes. But, 600 is a good baseline. Mine is in the 200's. So, i would probably lean towards the deca for a few weeks and use no PCT.
 
Svengali said:
I would combine nelson's and needto's idea. I dont know how long suppression takes. But, 600 is a good baseline. Mine is in the 200's. So, i would probably lean towards the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - for a few weeks and use no PCT - post cycle therapy - .
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DECA fucked me up and my doc did 3 blood tests at various times of the day....now i'm on HRT cyp...10ml every 30 days........ :p
 
I have been on so i cant have mine done yet. i do have doc. who works out alot and told me to just get so run down for about 3 days before the test. also no sleep the night before will do nicely for low test. i am going to try that someday. the dbolls sounds interesting. i know for a fact what the deca wout pct will do it... been there before..
 
mills... Good question! How in the hell would you play down and justify needing HGH when you are lets say in your mid 30's. HGH is also listed on my insurance meds list. Also, I wonder if the insurance company would ever have a reason to question a doc? Cause, my parents are super good friends with a ear, nose and throat doc. He has called in several scripts for z packs and different antibotics without ever seeing me or my wife. I have never asked him about a script for hormone therapy.... I've been snoring super bad lately, and thought about doing the office procedure that will correct it. I think that may be a good time to hit him with "THE BIG QUESTION" Anavar would be on my wish list. HEHE
 
the thing that might prevent doc from writing a script is hi ldl cholesterol or low hdl -

I got cut off my anavar script after my hdl disappeared lol. I'm going back now after feasting for a few weeks on policosanol, no flush niacin, metamucil, fish oil caps, red yeast xt
 
needtogetaas said:
yes run a nice long cycle of test and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - then dont do any PCT - post cycle therapy - and go in for a test 4 weeks after cycle...test should be nice and low.
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when i think of h.pta supression, I think of dec.a also lol
 
I can't imagine a legit medical reason for anavar. Long term use is not advisable. Primmo is a better option but not legal in the U.S.

Testosterone can exasperate snoring.

The benefits f G. H are overrated and the dangers are underrated.
 
needtogetaas said:
he nelson what you think about this...I know a guy that took birth contole pills for a few weeks then got tested and had very low test and very high estro lol hell it worked for him.
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When i saw my endo for TRT, she mentioned that some guys have taken birth control pills to have low test to get on TRT. She didn't say how she knew that and i didnt care to ask at the time, but if the dr cares to find out why your levels are messed they could find out that you took something. Some docs even like to do a second test to confirm the levels.
 
Nelson.... It got bad about month after getting on HGH. Man, I can sleep forever if left alone. All I hear is this "DADDY, STOP SNORING" from our little boy. I end up on the sofa just about every night.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Much easier. Take 25mgs dball for a week, then 3 days later go in with little sleep.

You'll be low.
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PlZ EXPLAIN IN BETTER DETAILE my next cycle will start off with 30 mg of d bol for 1 month. i want to do this so I can get some free t. please tell us exactly, time frames and all sir. thanks you!
 
borris said:
I never tried anything like this... I remember hearing once someone talking about taking only Dbols for a week before your test will lower your natty levels or something like that, OH and don't beat off for 10 days because on the 10th day your Test level drops dramatically.. lol.. maybe I misread though, i'm interested also
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A 10-14 day cycle followed by no PCT will do the trick. Wait about 5 days after the cycle to get test levels checked.
 
This thread is fascinating...I've contemplated how to get gear legally too. I have a question...does standard blood work check test levels? For example, 2 years ago I went to my dr. b/c I was exhausted all the time...he sent me to the lab and my blood work came back fine. The things that were checked was a super long list...can I assume that test levels were checked as well?
 
Mavafanculo said:
the thing that might prevent doc from writing a script is hi ldl cholesterol or low hdl -

I got cut off my anavar script after my hdl disappeared lol. I'm going back now after feasting for a few weeks on policosanol, no flush niacin, metamucil, fish oil caps, red yeast xt
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^^WORD??

U in Canada or something?
 
Mateo... I asked a lab tech that very same question when she was drawing my wife's blood a few months ago (routine pregnancy testing stuff). She was really cool and I was asking her all sorts of questions. She knew the deal and told me that unless a doctor calls for t-levels, they don't bother with checking. I think a doctor may be more incline to check for something more serious than a low test-count for long term exhaustion. Does everyone agree?
 
So, just say that my libido is low, that I fell flat all the time...? What else should one say? Also, can your regular doc. give you the gear or does he send you to an endo dr.?
 
What would a doctor write HGH for????? i went to the doctor and told him i wanted to gain weight and told him i had a friend doing test cyp and wouldnt tell him who the friend was and he gave me a years worth haha but how can u get hgh
 
He gave me 6 refils at 200mg weekly i had to wait two refils to use it lol, but all i told him was i was wanting to put on weight for a competition
 
mateo... Yeah, I'm sure that when you tell the doc that your flat and got zero sex drive, then he would question your levels. My understanding is that it can be any doctor, but I will just use my primary care physician. I know some big cities have those clinics. Anti-aging and hormone treatment centers. We did up until late last year before it was shut down. I was under the care of a anti-aging/hormone therapy doc locally last year. He was a semi-retired plastic surgeon. Unfortunately, he ended up taking his own life. It was truely sad cause he was a great man that cared deeply about his patients and their goals.
 
gslben said:
^^WORD??

U in Canada or something?
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no USA

oxandrolone is indicated for "...unexplained weight loss even in the absense of a known pathopsysiological cause..." or something like that.

I'm an ecto - diet for a few weeks and viola' lol
 
Mavafanculo said:
no USA

oxandrolone is indicated for "...unexplained weight loss even in the absense of a known pathopsysiological cause..." or something like that.

I'm an ecto - diet for a few weeks and viola' lol
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An ecto?

As in ectomorph?

Hmmmm....you look huge in your avatar?
 
gslben said:
An ecto?

As in ectomorph?

Hmmmm....you look huge in your avatar?
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but I have to eat like a horse to gain/maintain weight - really fast metabolism. if I stop working out and diet I drop weigth _real_ fast.
 
Hmmmm my doc prescribed clomid for low test.

Not particularly thrilled with his decision.

Should I just tell him I have sides and hope he comes up with something better?
 
mateo de la ley said:
That's a wild story and sad...sorry.
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Mateo

If you want your test levels checked all you have to do is ask. Just tell the doc you feel like shit and want your test levels checked. He will do it.
 
For whatever reason I have found several General Dr's a bit touchy about HRT unless you are really low test. They are more concerned with the side effects than the benefits and typically try to steer you away from HRT. If I have pressed the issue I was always directed to an endocrinologist.

At least that has been my experience several times to date.
 
yonkers weights said:
Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at 20mgs for 2 weeks. Wait a couple of days and get tested.
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can you train regularly during those 2 weeks?? then you must stop everything or what ?
 
You can train while on but when the 2 weeks are up, take 3-5 days off and then get tested. No dbol and no training for those days. The night before, don't sleep. Get tested in the am.

A "good" doc will find your levels low no matter what... There is a huge range.
 
lmao!! I can imagine myself lactating with gyno, crying, depressed with all that estrogen floating on my body (and im super sensitive to prolactin,estro, progest.etcetc) asking "dr. I feel like shit please do something"!! heheheheh! that was a good one though.. oh well.

needtogetaas said:
he nelson what you think about this...I know a guy that took birth contole pills for a few weeks then got tested and had very low test and very high estro lol hell it worked for him.
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