Proviron vs Unleashed

[WinnyPumps]

I will be using one of these products during my next cycle. For those of you bro's with experience using both of these please give me some advice.
I know Proviron is the tried and true, so how similar is Unleashed??

 

[enacer420nj]

Proviron is the shit. Im running 50mg ED def brings out the cuts and ups the sex drive. Ive used unleahsed during PCT it works well for an OTC product

 

[genetics]

Yeah again winny, proviron's the shit lol

 

[RagenMMA]

On week two of Proviron and really loving it. 50 mg ED

 

[eClenbuterol]

Always loved the provirion, still do. (;

 

[Nelson Montana]

They both lower SHBG. Proviron is admittedly stronger, though UNLEASHED is cheap. non toxic, legal and helps not only with libido but ED.

 

[WinnyPumps]

They both lower SHBG. Proviron is admittedly stronger, though UNLEASHED is cheap. non toxic, legal and helps not only with libido but ED.

So Nelson,
Correct me if I'm wrong but the lowering of SHBG is what free's up more test correct? I know both products are proven in that department. So my question is how does Unleashed compare to Proviron regarding it's anti e like benefits??

And like you said Unleashed is WAY cheaper. I asked my source for Proviron today and I was suprised how expensive it is. I do want to try one of these.

 

[wolfman87]

proviron would be your best choice on cycle. it's a better anti e than unleashed to answer your question. save unleashed for pct where it will do the most good.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Would 25mg ed Proviron be a reasonable dosage on a Test 500mg wk cycle??

 

[Nelson Montana]

So Nelson,
Correct me if I'm wrong but the lowering of SHBG is what free's up more test correct? I know both products are proven in that department. So my question is how does Unleashed compare to Proviron regarding it's anti e like benefits??

And like you said Unleashed is WAY cheaper. I asked my source for Proviron today and I was suprised how expensive it is. I do want to try one of these.

Less SHBG allows for more bioavailable testosterone. It also prevent aromatization.

As a sole anti e, I wouldn't depend on either if you use aromatizing compounds at high dosages. UNLEASHED works well on cycle but is best for PCT when you're off everything but still can use some (non suppressive) help.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Would 25mg ed Proviron be a reasonable dosage on a Test 500mg wk cycle??

Can someone answer this? 25mg or 50mg ed Proviron on this cycle:

1-12 Test C 500mg wk
1-4 Beast 30mg ed
7-14 Var 40mg ed

 

[gotballs]

50 mg per day has been said to reduce 50% to 70 % of est from converting. I am taking 25 mg in morning and 25mg at night.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

What is the SHBG inhibiting compound in Unleashed.....

 

[cobracock1979]

Proviron to lower sbgh - no contest. Still run AI anyway. And personally I take Unleashed on cycle anyway as it makes me feel great and helps libido

 

[WinnyPumps]

Proviron to lower sbgh - no contest. Still run AI anyway. And personally I take Unleashed on cycle anyway as it makes me feel great and helps libido

Yea I'm going with 50mg Proviron on cycle then will run Unleashed in pct. I only like running ai's unless I have to. I feel on cycle people should just try to make as much gains as possible, a little water weight is fine with me unless it get's to be too much. Of course if you are preparing for a contest or gyno senstive then it's a must.

 

[cobracock1979]

Exactly, just have arom/dex on hand bro.

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Proviron by far is #1

 

[WinnyPumps]

Last warning. No sourcing, talking about sources or ug labs or prices of steroids.

 

[WinnyPumps]

No.

 

[Nelson Montana]

whoa! What the fuck are you doing dude?!?!?! Not cool!!!

 

[joe d]

i thought you have been around long enough to know this breaks the golden rule here.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Proviron is awesome but it is expensive and it is a steroid.

Unleashed is a supplement, it's legal and it is not expensive.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Sorry guys! I thought it was ok because I didn't look at the website until now. I though it was a legal source and that it was ok to talk about, dammit! I feel so ugly right now, Im hideous!

 

[Unit 2005]

Proviron is awesome!!! but i have never tried that supplement.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Also, Proviron's SHBG lowering effect is mostly the result of increased DHT. That's hard of the hairline and the prostate. Unleashed does not raise DHT.

 

[bigtravis]

they both lower shbg. Proviron is admittedly stronger, though unleashed is cheap. Non toxic, legal and helps not only with libido but ed.

+1

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Pro was a cool drug but never tried the other one............ Need to try the other one out for the next pct.........

 

[Ron_Mexico]

What is the SHBG inhibiting compound in Unleashed.....

figured I'd ask again since the question was conveniently ducked........

 

[Nelson Montana]

figured I'd ask again since the question was conveniently ducked........

All of them, but mostly Avenacosides.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

All of them, but mostly Avenacosides.

Can you provide a double blind human study with a placebo control that shows "oats" raise free testosterone??

Because I cant..

 

[Nelson Montana]

Can you provide a double blind human study with a placebo control that shows "oats" raise free testosterone??

Because I cant..

Avenacosides aren't oats.

I can see by the last 2 of your total 34 posts you're trying to be antagonistic. There is plenty of evidence on the effectiveness of UNLEASHED including blood test results and empirical evidence from dozens of members of this board -- many of whom are diehard, jaded, advanced trainers.

 

[lohyewcheong]

What would be the effect of Unleashed on a female? Would it be helpful?

 

[Nelson Montana]

What would be the effect of Unleashed on a female? Would it be helpful?

Women don;t have an HPTA but most women seem to react similarly as they would to increased testosterone -- higher libido, strength and muscle hardness.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Avenacosides aren't oats.

I can see by the last 2 of your total 34 posts you're trying to be antagonistic. There is plenty of evidence on the effectiveness of UNLEASHED including blood test results and empirical evidence from dozens of members of this board -- many of whom are diehard, jaded, advanced trainers.

Apologies if I come off as an asshole, I am really not trying to come off that way.

Either way, Avenacosides is extract from Avena Sativa... Which is nothing more than wild oats.. no?

I don't see how my total post count correlates to the discussion at hand also.

I asked a question. Simply if there was a double blind, placebo controlled human study PUBLISHED about the effectiveness of Avena Sativa (oats) extract on SHBG and free testosterone levels.

Being this is a product you endorse and stand behind I don't see the problem.

I have trolled your posts, you seem very knowledgeable. So I assume you would understand that "dozens of users have shown bloodwork on here that are tried, true and respected members" just doesn't cut it when marketing a product. We are leaving things to word of mouth.

SHBG and Free Testosterone levels can be impacted by so many things. Diet, time of testing, pre or post workout, drugs etc. etc.

Somebody simply saying "Oh, I took some UNLEASHED .... went and got my bloodwork done and OMFG my FREE TESTOSTERONE IS 1200 +" is shaky at best.

A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Apologies if I come off as an asshole, I am really not trying to come off that way.

Either way, Avenacosides is extract from Avena Sativa... Which is nothing more than wild oats.. no?

I don't see how my total post count correlates to the discussion at hand also.

I asked a question. Simply if there was a double blind, placebo controlled human study PUBLISHED about the effectiveness of Avena Sativa (oats) extract on SHBG and free testosterone levels.

Being this is a product you endorse and stand behind I don't see the problem.

I have trolled your posts, you seem very knowledgeable. So I assume you would understand that "dozens of users have shown bloodwork on here that are tried, true and respected members" just doesn't cut it when marketing a product. We are leaving things to word of mouth.

SHBG and Free Testosterone levels can be impacted by so many things. Diet, time of testing, pre or post workout, drugs etc. etc.

Somebody simply saying "Oh, I took some UNLEASHED .... went and got my bloodwork done and OMFG my FREE TESTOSTERONE IS 1200 +" is shaky at best.

A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

Sorry if I read into what you were saying the wrong way. At any rate, there are some studies on line but realize, proving that something may be valuable to a bodybuilder is NOT a big concern of the medical community so studies wit ANY of this stuff is limited. Even studies on STEROIDS are pretty minimal.

There were double blind studies conducted by the company and it was admittedly with a handful of people. I have also personally taken (several) blood tests before and after and saw undoubtedly that Free T was higher while using the ingredients.

Now, a lot of companies claim they did tests and a lot of company cite "University studies" which quite frankly, is bullshit. You can pay some college chemistry class to give you the answer you want and that's a "University Study."

So in the end, challanging people to prove you wrong is the acid test. And believe me, the guys on this board will let you know if something doesn't work! In the end, the proof is in the pudding. UNLEASHED works. It does what it's supposed to do. And that's what matters.