Proviron vs. Masteron

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

In a recently planned cycle, I decided to add 50 mgs/day of proviron as both anti-estrogen and hardening agent. Good fortune has shone upon me and finances allow me to spend a bit more on my cycle. I'm considering the merit of adding 100 mg EOD of Masteron in lieu of the Proviron. What benefits does masteron have beyond proviron? Can I expect additional strength or mass from the masteron beyond what proviron can accomplish. How do the side effects of the 2 compounds differ?

 

[Mr.X]

proviron vs. masteron??? where did you get this idea?

http://www.mmsfitness.com/steroid_profiles.htm

read the profiles first

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

proviron vs. masteron??? where did you get this idea?

http://www.mmsfitness.com/steroid_profiles.htm

read the profiles first

I don't understand your question. I'm weighting the ergogenic benefits of the two compounds in comparison. Your profile page does claim masteron does indeed impart muscle growth whereas proviron does not. If your page is to be believed, masteron does have an additional ergogenic benefit not shared by proviron. I have read numerous posts with conflicting analysis of masteron's ability to produce muscular growth beyond it's hardening effect and was looking for users experienced with both compounds to shed light. Mainly I am looking for the hardening effect (muscle not cock), but if by springing extra cash I also may get more muscle and strength using the masteron in the cycle, I would opt to use masteron in lieu of proviron.

Secondarily I have read other profile pages ie. 'Big Cat's' which claims masteron does not aid muscle growth. Which is to be believed? I cannot simultaneously believe both, so I am looking for a someone with specific evidence comparing the ergogenic effects of both.

 

[Mr.X]

I don't understand your question. I'm weighting the ergogenic benefits of the two compounds in comparison. Your profile page does claim masteron does indeed impart muscle growth whereas proviron does not. If your page is to be believed, masteron does have an additional ergogenic benefit not shared by proviron. I have read numerous posts with conflicting analysis of masteron's ability to produce muscular growth beyond it's hardening effect and was looking for users experienced with both compounds to shed light. Mainly I am looking for the hardening effect (muscle not cock), but if by springing extra cash I also may get more muscle and strength using the masteron in the cycle, I would opt to use masteron in lieu of proviron.

Secondarily I have read other profile pages ie. 'Big Cat's' which claims masteron does not aid muscle growth. Which is to be believed? I cannot simultaneously believe both, so I am looking for a someone with specific evidence comparing the ergogenic effects of both.

It seems your mind is made up here, you're looking for "hardening" and some muscle growth, if possible. I would go with Masteron all the way. Big Cat can say what he wants, I've experienced 1st hand masteron and I've experienced proviron. It's night and day. Proviron did almost nothing for me, while masteron along with some test was a great combination - I got hard and build some good mass. Personally, I'm not a big fan of either of the products, but if I was to choose one, I would go with masteron.

Mr.X

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

It seems your mind is made up here, you're looking for "hardening" and some muscle growth, if possible. I would go with Masteron all the way. Big Cat can say what he wants, I've experienced 1st hand masteron and I've experienced proviron. It's night and day. Proviron did almost nothing for me, while masteron along with some test was a great combination - I got hard and build some good mass. Personally, I'm not a big fan of either of the products, but if I was to choose one, I would go with masteron.

Mr.X

I didn't mean to imply I would use one exclusively. I am considering a tes/masteron cycle vs a tes/boldenone/proviron cycle. Sorry if I did not make that clear. Which cycle is better for hard, quality mass and strenght?

 

[Mr.X]

I didn't mean to imply I would use one exclusively. I am considering a tes/masteron cycle vs a tes/boldenone/proviron cycle. Sorry if I did not make that clear. Which cycle is better for hard, quality mass and strenght?

Test/masteron would be a better cycle, especially you're looking to stay hard/lean here.

Mr.X

 

[Smokescreen]

Test/masteron would be a better cycle, especially you're looking to stay hard/lean here.

Mr.X

But wouldn't Masteron/Test or Masteron/Test/EQ suppress too much estrogen? Thus killing sex drive?

 

[Mr.X]

But wouldn't Masteron/Test or Masteron/Test/EQ suppress too much estrogen? Thus killing sex drive?

masteron /test would not 'suppress' too much estrogen bro.

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

But wouldn't Masteron/Test or Masteron/Test/EQ suppress too much estrogen? Thus killing sex drive?

This side effect is not entirely bad from my perspective. "Don't have sex man. It leads to kissing and pretty soon you have to start talking to them."-

Steve Martin

 

[monster2929]

prov is mild and lots of bros dont like it, id try it but u might be disaapointed that prov isnt cheap either

 

[lurcan]

But wouldn't Masteron/Test or Masteron/Test/EQ suppress too much estrogen? Thus killing sex drive?

Absolutely not. Adding Mast to a Test EQ cycle turns most into sex machines.

Also, you'll hear a lot of people refer to Mast as oral proviron. Not true. The compounds are similiar in that they are both DHT derivatives. However, proviron is purely androgenic, with no anabolic qualities, while Mast is both androgenic AND anabolic. A warning though: many people are very disappointed with Mast after using it. The anabolic/androgenic effect is not as strong as say, Tren, and it will only show dramatic results if you are in the sub 8% body fat range. If don't think you'll be dropping below 8% on this cycle, you may want to save your money for the next cycle.

Finally, many people recommend using it only during the last 4-6 weeks of a cycle. That's wise if you are already pretty lean at that point. However, for me, I will throw it in even earliar if I hit 8% bf prior to the last 6 weeks. I'll run it for 2+ mos if it's worth it. Of course I never use Mast alone. Always with test and whatever else I'm stacking. But be careful, it can be very hard on the hairline. You'll need lots of topicals. Finasteride will do nothing for any DHT compound.

 

[Smokescreen]

Absolutely not. Adding Mast to a Test EQ cycle turns most into sex machines.

Also, you'll hear a lot of people refer to Mast as oral proviron. Not true. The compounds are similiar in that they are both DHT derivatives. However, proviron is purely androgenic, with no anabolic qualities, while Mast is both androgenic AND anabolic. A warning though: many people are very disappointed with Mast after using it. The anabolic/androgenic effect is not as strong as say, Tren, and it will only show dramatic results if you are in the sub 8% body fat range. If don't think you'll be dropping below 8% on this cycle, you may want to save your money for the next cycle.

Finally, many people recommend using it only during the last 4-6 weeks of a cycle. That's wise if you are already pretty lean at that point. However, for me, I will throw it in even earliar if I hit 8% bf prior to the last 6 weeks. I'll run it for 2+ mos if it's worth it. Of course I never use Mast alone. Always with test and whatever else I'm stacking. But be careful, it can be very hard on the hairline. You'll need lots of topicals. Finasteride will do nothing for any DHT compound.

But is this stuff toxic? And is it painful? I mean...it is a propionate you know. For example me. I use Test all year round with Proviron as my anti-e. What if i got rid of the proviron and replaced it with Masteron for all year long purposes as an anti-e????

What would happen? I'm not prone to hairloss. But something bad might happend. Right or wrong?

 

[Dial_tone]

I had really good luck with 50mg proviron and 20-40mg nolvadex ED. I have gotten gyno on 200mg E5D w/o anti-e but this allowed me to go up to 750mg/week.

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Perhaps I should be more situation specific. I am 30, 5'11", and tip the scales at about 190# at estimated 9% bodyfat. This is my second cycle. My first being 6 weeks of 500 mgs of sustanon 250. I gained 13 pounds and literally doubled my strength on many lifts. This cycle I am considering the merit of 600 mgs weekly of tes cyp/ 500 mgs weekly of boldenone/ and 50 mgs daily of proviron for a total of 14 weeks. My goals are quality muscle size without sacrificing leanness. Would I possibly be better served by deleting the boldenone and proviron and replacing it with possibly 300 mgs of masteron? My sense is no, but I will listen to any input. Could I up the masteron dose to say 500 mgs/wk and get better results than the tes/boldenone/proviron stack? Is masteron essentially 'tren jr.' allowing gains in size, strength, and density albeit to a lesser degree?