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Can you guys shed some light? I'm debating whether to throw some into my cycle, just for extra measure.
Proviron dosages
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silverfreak said:
Great stuff, and easy to cross the line between the "right amount" and what's excessive and just leads to unwanted sides with no further benefit. I found that 50mg is a great dose, 75 mg makes me hard as a rock, and 100mg makes me break out in acne all over. If you are using long term I wouldn't exceed 50mg/day and taken twice in 25mg increments is best as well. I know peeps that stay on it year around whether on cycle or not to maintain that "hard look" with no inhibition of "hpta" when they do come off.
Social Distortion
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can some one help me out with this one. does Proviron keep water bloat down?
i was told no it does not by a few people but if proviron gives you that
"Hard look" i would assume it does help keep the water down.
thanks in advance
i was told no it does not by a few people but if proviron gives you that
"Hard look" i would assume it does help keep the water down.
thanks in advance
Social Distortion said:
yes it does, most AI's block estrogen at the receptor level while you can think of Proviron more of "blocking it at the source" and by lowering these levels proportionately speaking raises test levels, thats why doc's prescribe this for men with low test levels that dont yet need HRT, this is enough to bring their libidos back in check.
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Thanks indy
I do 50mg ED
indy69camaro said:
Mmm, not really. Proviron is everything you say, not very liver toxic and an underrated anti estrogen, but it will inhibit the HPTA.
piningettysburg
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lol @ big joe
samoth said:All exogeneous androgens inhibit the HTHP testicular axis to some extent.
I used to agree with this statement until Ulter challenged me to find a single study to support the fact that proviron can inhibit H.P.T.A.
Every study I found showed just the opposite; proviron did not lower men's LH or FSH levels.
silverfreak
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Cool, thanks for all the input guys. Much appreciated.
Nelson Montana said:
At small doseages, no it will not. My doctor has put men on it for years at a time for low sex drive with no type of pct when they stopped taking it, and test levels were no different than pre proviron time afterwards. I only stated what more than one doctor has explained to me in the past, I am lucky to have many friends that are physicians, and one an ex body builder that know this stuff inside and out, I trust what he tells me hands down. With that said, none of the above patients were taking more than 25mgs per day, and we as bodybuilders usually use 50-75mgs in a cycle. For that I cannot say for certainty that it would or would not shut you down, but I can speak for the 25mg dose.
nydj66 said:
All exogeneous androgens inhibit the HTHP testicular axis to some extent.
Nobody researches this anymore because it's already known. A weaker androgen is likely to have less of an affect on the HTHP testicular axis, but your body isn't stupid. It will always adapt if you externally introduce hormones that it's in charge of producting.
*edit* Funny, I found two references to Proviron's impact on wikipedia within ten seconds. Remember, work from the basic axioms outward -- don't think that what's already been established by medical and chemical science is going to be rewritten on some steroid message board on the internet, regardless of whether one's internet message board title reads "guru", "moderator", "anabolic chemist" or anything else.
indy69camaro said:
That's the problem with people requoting all these journal articles. Initial conditions are rarely "normal".
If one's endocrine system is already screwed up from steroid use or abuse, then that's different -- but you aren't going to find that in any medical research. Old age, a dysfunctioning endoc system, obesity, et cetera are not isomorphic to the effects of steroid use... but it's really all we got to work from.
