prostate issue - seek help from the serious vets

[specster]

I have been having what feels like pressure on my prostate for several weeks during a winny T and equipoise cycle. I am taking proscar and arimidex as well. The winny already resembles DHT and is not effected by the proscar. I cut out the winny and the pressure seemed to abate. Now it seems to have been coming back. I added saw palmetto and increased the proscar slightly and now the pressure feels way less. Yet, the proscar is killing my gains and giving me wicked joint pain.

I do not urinate frequently at night and the stream is good. I have hemmroids which I may be confusing for the prostate pressure but that is kind of doubtful. My libedo is not what it should be for a test cycle.

Is there some other drug I can take to lessen swelling in the prostate other than proscar - I hate the stuff. I am weaker while on Test and proscar than when I am on nothing.

My last PSA test was .2

any serious insight welcome.

 

[AustinTX]

go to the damn doctor.

 

[specster]

Austin, your advice is worth every penny I paid for it. Maybe if I lived to be a 1000 and got a brain transplant I would have figured that out.

Dail tone, this is the thing. I don't urinate frequently and when I do it is a normal volume and normal stream. Yet, sometimes I feel pressure or a pinch behind my anus. Could this be just hemroids and if it is, why does this only happen when I am "on"?

 

[AustinTX]

you're being stupid, trying to get advice for your current situation here.

you're pushing mid-40's (yeah, it sucks, almost pushing 40's here) you have prostate probs, hemorrhoids, think that proscar is killing gains from test?, been here for 15 posts, so no one really knows much of your background, you're self medicating with finasteride and saw palmetto, etc.

difficulty urinating is a sign of BPH, but it doesn't always happen.

sometimes the best advice IS to go see a doctor, and that is what you should do.

 

[specster]

Austin, I know your intentions and heart are in the right place but I am so sick of knee jerk responses like that. I have gone to GP's over issues as simple as getting clomid and 1) they refuse to help 2) you alienate ypourself and bias all future treatment, regardless if it is roid related and 3) most of them know less about roids than a vet withy 3 years of more of expeience. For instance, last time I went for my blood work post cycle I asked the MD to run estrogen. I told him I did a cycle and still he laughed in my face asking me why a man would want to test his blood for estrogen.

I don't need to drop $150 on a MD because I know what he is going to say - Stop doing steroids. Ya I am in my 40s but I still want to live life to the fullest - to be competative at everything I do and look as good as I can. I am commonly considered to be in my early 30s. I am willing to take risks because I feel living life by THE RULES is living with one foot in the grave anyway.

I will figure this thing out. I am confident there is a solution.

Sorry about being so snappy. I know you were just trying to be helpful.

Lastly, I may have only 14 posts on this board but I have about 100 on others and have spent about an hour a day reasearching this shit for the past 18 months.



Peace

 

[AustinTX]

seriously, no problem. but it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction (like the smart ass "use the search feature responses" you see). didn't mean anything by the post count, other than it's not enough for us to know too much about you, it wasn't intended as some sort of lame newbie comment.

Not saying you should discuss the roids with the doc (I wouldn't), but the sad facts are that as we reach and pass 40, there are some *really* serious problems that can occur in "that" area. Even if OTC stuff helps the symptoms, there could be something seriously wrong (AAS could just add enough additional stress to make you aware of the problem earlier). Far to many men die because they put off, or don't want to deal with the old rectal exam or colonoscopy. That's why my recommendation for "unknown" probs down there (and it doesn't sound like you can be 100% certain that it is just some benign swelling going on) for our age+ people is always to go see a doc. I've already lost one friend at 44 to colon cancer, and another at 38 just got finished with months and months of chemo, etc. and was able to go back to work after his prostate problem, and he caught it early.

I believe that macro has said the saw palmetto and finasteride bind to different variations of the same receptor in the prostate, so use of both can help.

 

[wilson6]

Get a digital prostate exam. That will tell you. A PSA of 0.2 is very low. Rectal is also a good idea past 40. Why take a chance?

Prostatitis feels like there is a hot egg stuffed in your ass and you have to urinate all the time. When your doc puts pressure on the prostate, get ready for pain like you've never experienced before.

If it is BPH, then there won't be pain (most of the time), perhaps fullness, difficulty urinating and increased frequency.

Other items to take.

Lycopene 10 - 15 mg/d

Crucerferious Veg extract or indole-3 carbinol

Grape seed extract

W6

 

[liftsiron]

First of all your joint pain is most likly related to the winstrol, winstrol is very bad for joint pain. As for the prostrste problems, join the club bro. I've had flare ups for years. What helps me is large doses of saw palmetto combined with nettle root extract, works every time for me. Antihistimines and eca's should be advoided at all cost as they inflame the prostate more than steroids. The advice to see a doctor was very sound because you may have a prostrate or bladder infection which would require treatment with antibotics. I'm not a fan of finasteride. One last note drink at least a gallon of water a day and you may want try cranberry extract to keep bacteria at a minimun in the bladder and uretra.

 

[specster]

Liftsiron,

The winny has been out of the regimine for weeks now so it is not the winny causing the joint pain. Every time I take proscar (~1 mg ed) I get heavy duty joint pain which goes away within 2 days of stopping the proscar.

I am not taking ECA or anthing similar to it. I have heard others say that Deca causes prostate swelling and guys just deal with it. What I really want to know is, is this just normal and to be expected?


Lycopene - save me some leg work. Does it drop your DHT off a cliff and make you feel like crap as proscar does or does it work in some other way? Also is it prescription or OTC?

 

[JibbyJabba]

I have heard others say that Deca causes prostate swelling and guys just deal with it.


Lycopene - save me some leg work. Does it drop your DHT off a cliff and make you feel like crap as proscar does or does it work in some other way? Also is it prescription or OTC?

I may be wrong, but I've always known Deca to be regarded as one's best choice if they have to worry about prostate issues - supposedly, it's very easy on the prostate and the hairline.

Lycopene is OTC and will not make you feel like shit.