Prostate cancer from test. ALL MUST READ!

[Trevdog]

2) Use of Finasteride is a long term commitement. You simply can't stop it for period of a few month and not expect loss of benefits. If you are prone to MPB, and using Finasteride, you have to forget about Deca, period. No loopholes there.

Thanks bro. I should have been more specific. I do have a receding hairline, but it doesn't seem to be getting much worse. If I took finasteride, it wouldn't be for MPB, it would be to prevent prostate cancer. Thus, it would seem that I could take deca, wait a month, then take test with finasteride, winny, primo, tren, eq, etc. Is that true?

 

[panerai]

Hey, first of all, how long of a break do you take in between cycles? If it's only a month, especially after Deca, may be, it doesn't even make sense to go off, at all?
I think, it make sense to use Finasteride(for prostate) on high amount of Test cycles only. Also, use aromatise inhibitor, and take it easy on Ephedrine.

 

[Trevdog]

I take at least as much time off as I was on. Again I didn't think when I posted. I'm aware that deca takes about 3 weeks to clear your system.

 

[Rosco]

So to sum this thread up, please correct me if I'm wrong:

1. We should take finasteride while on test

2. We should take saw palmetto year round, unless on deca

3. Deca is the greatest steriod ever made for sides vs results and wont hurt your prostate or cause you to loose your hair when used alone

4. We should use anti-e's and an anti aromatise such as liquidex while on AS that aromatise

5. everything else that I over simplified or left out

Am I correct in all of the above?

Questions:

1. Where does Eq fall in the prostate/finasteride/hairloss realm

2. Will someone elaborate why ephedrine is bad for the prostate. Does it cause prostate cancer?

3. Will someone elaborate on why proviron is bad for the prostate. And, if it caues prostate cancer?

Thanks in advance

 

[gethard1]

All I have to say is

READ THIS:


Is low serum free testosterone a marker for high grade prostate cancer?

Hoffman MA, DeWolf WC, Morgentaler A.

Division of Urology, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Massachusetts, USA.

PURPOSE: The association of free and total testosterone with prostate cancer is incompletely understood. We investigated the relationship of serum free and total testosterone to the clinical and pathological characteristics of prostate cancer. MATERIALS AND METHODS: We retrospectively reviewed the clinical records of 117 consecutive patients treated by 1 physician and diagnosed with prostate cancer at our medical center between 1994 and 1997. Low free and total testosterone levels were defined as 1.5 or less and 300 ng./dl., respectively. RESULTS: After evaluating all 117 patients we noted no correlation of free and total testosterone with prostate specific antigen, patient age, prostatic volume, percent of positive biopsies, biopsy Gleason score or clinical stage. However, in patients with low versus normal free testosterone there were an increased mean percent of biopsies that showed cancer (43% versus 22%, p = 0.013) and an increased incidence of a biopsy Gleason score of 8 or greater (7 of 64 versus 0 of 48, p = 0.025). Of the 117 patients 57 underwent radical retropubic prostatectomy. In those with low versus normal free testosterone an increased mean percent of biopsies demonstrated cancer (47% versus 28%, p = 0.018). Pathological evaluation revealed stage pT2ab, pT2c, pT3 and pT4 disease, respectively, in 31%, 64%, 8% and 0% of patients with low and in 40%, 40.6%, 12.5% and 6.2% in those with normal free testosterone (p>0.05). CONCLUSIONS: In our study patients with prostate cancer and low free testosterone had more extensive disease. In addition, all men with a biopsy Gleason score of 8 or greater had low serum free testosterone. This finding suggests that low serum free testosterone may be a marker for more aggressive disease.

PMID: 10687985 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Drugs Aging 1999 Aug;15(2):131-42 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut


LOW TEST LEVELS NOT HIGH

 

[fnheadcase]

What is Finasteride, and where can I get it?

 

[FISHTALES]

doctor or select online pharmacy, it is 1 mg proscar used for hair loss, 5mg proscar is used for prostate enlargement/problems.

 

[FreakMonster]

3. Will someone elaborate on why proviron is bad for the prostate. And, if it caues prostate cancer?

Thanks in advance

Proviron is not bad for the Prostate unless you are taking more than 100mg a day which could significantly raise your DHT levels.
But remember DHT alone does not cause Prostate Cancer.
DHT, Estrogen, and Cortisol all play a role in causing Prostate cancer.

Proviron is NOT a bad drug. It is very safe and mild. Read my thread on why it's a very good drug that can be used year round.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125539

 

[Nathan]

Where is the cheapest place for finasteride? Never looked into it personally but now I'm fucking paranoid so I think I will.

 

[fistfullofsteel]

ok, i noticed that when i am on test that the area above my penis swells a little bit. is that my prostate or bladder? but after a while when i am off it goes down. i also noticed that i urinate a little bit more when i am off, which means a whole lot of urinating because i urinate a lot in the first place but i drink a lot of water too. so will proscar help me out or is it something else, just a swollen bladder which i don't think it is, because of drinking lots of H2O? i am leaning on taking it on my next round anyway, but some info would be nice.