PROOF? You Decide.

[jroc86]

Nelson, you were on 100mgs of TESTOSTERONE, which is why you tested at almost 900ng/dl.

You ARE SHUTDOWN, try coming OFF and see what your level is...

This is the answer right here. The median test production is approx 70mg/week ... considering your doing HRT with a little bit more than the aforemntioned #, obviously your going to test high.

Go off, and get back to us bro.

TBH Im very disapointed with what an advertising campaign this entire board has become in a year, and am choked at myself for starting a new account and getting a plat. Fuck me, every second thread in the AAS board (not supplement board) is plugging some state of the art miracle drug.

 

[Nelson Montana]

This is the answer right here. The median test production is approx 70mg/week ... considering your doing HRT with a little bit more than the aforemntioned #, obviously your going to test high.

Go off, and get back to us bro.

TBH Im very disapointed with what an advertising campaign this entire board has become in a year, and am choked at myself for starting a new account and getting a plat. Fuck me, every second thread in the AAS board (not supplement board) is plugging some state of the art miracle drug.

It's already been established that there are those on as much and more T and have a lower total and free %. So the whole "shutdown" theory is proven incorrect.

Try to pay attention to what is being said instead of complaining about too much advertising.

One thing about the EF board; even if a sponsor sucks, the members will say so. But if a sponsor has some good stuff that works for people , why be eager to dismiss it ? Just because you don't like advertising and feel like complaining about it? That's just silly and self defeating bro.

 

[needtogetaas]

It's already been established that there are those on as much and more T and have a lower total and free %. So the whole "shutdown" theory is proven incorrect.

Try to pay attention to what is being said instead of complaining about too much advertising.

One thing about the EF board; even if a sponsor sucks, the members will say so. But if a sponsor has some good stuff that works for people , why be eager to dismiss it ? Just because you don't like advertising and feel like complaining about it? That's just silly and self defeating bro.

true

 

[r1]

I've tried to come off of HRT numerous times over the past 5 years. My most recent attempt was after being on Test Cyp 100mg/week for about 9 months. I stopped it and immediately started talking Nolvadex 40mg ED.

I got my blood levels tested at the 1 week mark and about fell out of my chair.

Total Testosterone = 93 (range = 241 to 827)

Everything else was in the toilet, too. DHT, Estradiol, LH, etc...all super low. During the whole 9 months, LH hovered around zero (a clear indicator of full HPTA suppression). Thinking that the results were a mistake, I got immediately retested. It came back in the low 100's. WTF?? I was really scared, but over the course of the next 8 weeks, the Nolvadex did bring levels back up and then I tapered off of that.

However, for that period of "cold turkey" between the two, I basically had zero endogenous Testosterone production.

R1

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Add some DERMACRINE in, might help

-Legacy

 

[Nelson Montana]

I've tried to come off of HRT numerous times over the past 5 years. My most recent attempt was after being on Test Cyp 100mg/week for about 9 months. I stopped it and immediately started talking Nolvadex 40mg ED.

I got my blood levels tested at the 1 week mark and about fell out of my chair.

Total Testosterone = 93 (range = 241 to 827)

Everything else was in the toilet, too. DHT, Estradiol, LH, etc...all super low. During the whole 9 months, LH hovered around zero (a clear indicator of full HPTA suppression). Thinking that the results were a mistake, I got immediately retested. It came back in the low 100's. WTF?? I was really scared, but over the course of the next 8 weeks, the Nolvadex did bring levels back up and then I tapered off of that.

However, for that period of "cold turkey" between the two, I basically had zero endogenous Testosterone production.

R1

I would question whether the Nolva had anything to do with it.

 

[BBBBig Phenom]

wow

 

[r1]

I would question whether the Nolva had anything to do with it.

I've wondered the same. However, I'm convinced that it is a response to Nolva. On 40mg, I got my Test levels back into the 600's with LH around 11.

As I tapered off, my Test levels steadily dropped and settled in the low 200's with no Nolva.

I do believe that you are fully suppressed, Nelson. Question is...who cares? I mean shit, if it works, it works. I respect the fact that you've been able to make TRT work for you for such a long time. For many people, it is a constant struggle and lots of chasing your tail in circles.

R1