Proline's underdosed 500EQ - lab report

[Juice Authority]

I was recently given permission by the owner of this report to post it. I've had this report for a while but was asked not to post it for various reasons.

A few months back Proline was averaging 2-3 months behind on orders. It seems that he is caught up on his backlog but there still remains a HUGE question mark in terms of the potency of his high dosed gear.

The following report was done on his 500mg EQ, which tested out at 274mg/ml, nearly HALF of its advertised potency. Proline of course refutted these findings claiming that the lab report was either edited or faked. All one would have to do to verify these findings is call the lab and give them the ID number.

Testing lab:

http://www.srcslab.com

Phone: (801) 277-8228

I understand there will be another test on Proline's 500mg EQ in the near future, which I will post on this thread. Hopefully the results on this next test come back better than this last one. In the meantime, I would stay away from Proline's high dosed product line until further notice.

 

[Juice Authority]

 

[eviction]

money, now u have the hacker skills it takes to post non-plat

 

[doublebicep]

Thanks JA.

Interesting that 1 Loeffler 5MG Var tab tested out to be 4.4mg of Oxandrolone. They have been praised on this board. I guess 4.4mg for this one tablet may not be a batch average. Maybe over all their var is ~5mg per tab.

Never tried the hight dose PL stuff. I will prob never need to.

-doublebicep-

 

[TheRide]

Good looing out JA. Thx.

 

[H Bomb79]

i actually sent 10 of the loffler tabs in. so not sure if that means anything or not for the results.

the lab said they only needed about 5 but i sent 10 in

H Bomb

 

[satchboogie]

yo man thats straight out wrong!

i respect proline but this shit is totally out of line..
i mean if the gear was 10% short i can understand.

but 50% short is totally and completely unacceptable.
and the dude makes his own gear so no excuses!
PURE AND SIMPLE!

 

[Juice Authority]

yo man thats straight out wrong!

i respect proline but this shit is totally out of line..
i mean if the gear was 10% short i can understand.

but 50% short is totally and completely unacceptable.
and the dude makes his own gear so no excuses!
PURE AND SIMPLE!

That is precisely the problem with UG gear such as Proline. You never really know what you're getting batch to batch since they are not held to the same standard as a legitimate pharmaceutical company. I've always been somewhat skeptical of PL's high dosed gear line especially since he used to claim on his list that they are "painless" injects. Well, one of the reasons his high dosed gear was/is "painless" could be because it is UNDERDOSED!

Of course Proline will tell you that the reason they are "painless" is b/c he uses a special "proprietary" solvent to make his gear. Yeah right! Now wouldn't the billion dollar pharmaceutical companies out there love to get a hold of this "proprietary" solution. Shit, Proline should sell it to them for millions and retire.

 

[_Yossarian_]

Poor form!! too many good sources with quality products and service to even bother fucking around with sketchy UG labs!!!

 

[Juice Authority]

Poor form!! too many good sources with quality products and service to even bother fucking around with sketchy UG labs!!!

Well, this is what you get when you're a one-man operation cooking up gear in your basement running months behind on orders.

 

[concordsize]

any lab work on GTP, TF, BL???

E

 

[_Yossarian_]

ive never seen any...

 

[psychedout]

Even if Proline gets back up to par, nobody should support him.

Bottom line is he cut corners, and stole peoples hard earned cash.

If you support him in the future (**IF, and thats a big if, his stuff gets up to par) you are supporting a crook. And in supporting him, I would think of you as being no more respect worthy than Proline himself.

 

[satchboogie]

Even if Proline gets back up to par, nobody should support him.

Bottom line is he cut corners, and stole peoples hard earned cash.

If you support him in the future (**IF, and thats a big if, his stuff gets up to par) you are supporting a crook. And in supporting him, I would think of you as being no more respect worthy than Proline himself.

the smart ones who plan on 'long-term'ing' will make less money but keep things under control.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

satch, they are only making slightly less money. Realistically, lets say he makes a bottle of eq that is suppost to contain 10,000 mg, but is half dosed so only contains 5,000 mg. I don't know his prices, but lets say he charges $300 for the bottle. Maybe $50 of it goes to pay expenenses. His manufacturing cost is what $100, tops. He is probably only paying $60 maybe $70 for his bu, so if he cuts the dose in half the guy, is only making another $35 on top of his $150 profit. He is screwing guys for a very margin increase in the 20-25% range. That's bad business for anyone who plans on doing it long term and keeping a good rep.

 

[satchboogie]

and for that reason, BBF, i just dont think he did it intentionally.
i'd like to hear what he has to say.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

Even if Proline gets back up to par, nobody should support him.Bottom line is he cut corners, and stole peoples hard earned cash.If you support him in the future (**IF, and thats a big if, his stuff gets up to par) you are supporting a crook. And in supporting him, I would think of you as being no more respect worthy than Proline himself.

agreed. Then he changes names to MegaMuscle Labs or whatever and gets new locations of payment and operation and he is right back in business under a new lab name...until his shit gets tested bunk, then the cycle repeats itself...

Articles and tests like this make it very difficult to have any confidence in any UG labs. Orbit, BL, GTP, very difficult to know what UG lab to trust for quality product, consistently.

Peace

 

[Deleted member 33117]

and for that reason, BBF, i just dont think he did it intentionally.
i'd like to hear what he has to say.

Good point. It doesn't make sense. The guy has worked hard on developing a good reputation, and a long term business. Why screw yourself for such a small margin increase? Raw materials are just not that expensive.

 

[satchboogie]

the answer is right there my friends..

pay more and get human grade pharmaceutical goodies.
pay less play the dice.. its that simple

 

[Juice Authority]

Good point. It doesn't make sense. The guy has worked hard on developing a good reputation, and a long term business. Why screw yourself for such a small margin increase? Raw materials are just not that expensive.

First off, when you're at the kind of volume Prolin puts out $35 on top of his margin adds up quickly. Another thing to consider is that Proline was running way behind on orders. He might have run into a material shortage and decided cut corners in order to get his product out the door. BigAndy alluded to this in his recent post on UG labs.

"Cutting Corners

We need 2000 EQs ASAP but we only have raw materials for 1000. Well, you now have 100mg/ml labeled as 200mg/ml. 90% of labs will cut corners when the stress is on.

Be very wary of large brands that are never out of stock. That's what made Spectro so special in the earlier days. He didn't cut corners. I remember he was out of Eq for 2 months. It hurt him financially but he stuck to his core beliefs.

Unpredictable problems

There are many problems that can plague an UG organization. It is an illegal operation and some shady people are involved. Some of these lower level chemist can be real sleaze balls. There was a case where the chemist was putting out underdosed products under the subcontracted name and using the raw materials for his own line. He basically hurts the competition, takes there money and puts out his superior product. Brilliant. These guys usually end up in dumpsters. Also, there is the aspect of organized crime getting involved and wanting a piece. Those guys obviously don't care about putting out a quality product. They want to make money as fast as possible and then get out.

There is also a chance of getting ripped off by the raw material supplier although some labs use that as an excuse."

 

[psychedout]

Good point. It doesn't make sense. The guy has worked hard on developing a good reputation, and a long term business. Why screw yourself for such a small margin increase? Raw materials are just not that expensive.

Interesting point fella's. BUT, I don't see how you underdose something sooo much and it not be intentional.

 

[muscleup]

DAMN!!! thats fucked up

 

[beastboy]

HAs any of his test's been tested?

 

[Chikkin]

JA: I guess the other thread got deleted...Anyway, I would like to point out that you called me a new person here from MESO....
Thats funny since you have been a member here for about a year now...me I've been one for about 2 yrs...I started a new username kid....now, take your foot outa your mouth and go make us some more fake lab reports!!!

Just b/c I don't have time to sit around all day with one hand up my ass and the other typing bs messages to post on elite doesn't mean I'm new and it certainly doesn't mean that you know what your talking about just b/c you have 5millions posts here!!!

Funny thing is I see other sources on these threads posting shit against ProLINE...wow, I wonder why they would do that Then once people say they have ordered from him and everything went well all you have to say is he is still a piece of shit...wow, what a good answer

 

[psychedout]

Bro, JA did not make a fake lab report. JA isn't even the guy that had it tested. He was just the guy with the balls to stand up and actually post it.

He was the bro who was doing everyone in the world of anabolics a favor by bringing our attention to a poor source. He is trying to make sure people don't waste there hard earned cash.

Afteral, who wants to throw away there money?? So a source posts on a thread against him... big deal...98 % of the replies are from people who aren't sources, and who have nothing financially to gain. Now that speaks volumes.

My experience with proline was shit, and same with a bro of mine that I referred to him.

I shared mine, you shared yours. And because weve had bad experiences with proline, we get flamed for sharing them??

You may have been lucky and had a good expereince with PL, afterall, there was a time when I would have supported him.

But the people that have had a bad experience with PL are a dime a dozen.

 

[Juice Authority]

JA: I guess the other thread got deleted...Anyway, I would like to point out that you called me a new person here from MESO....
Thats funny since you have been a member here for about a year now...me I've been one for about 2 yrs...I started a new username kid....now, take your foot outa your mouth and go make us some more fake lab reports!!!

Just b/c I don't have time to sit around all day with one hand up my ass and the other typing bs messages to post on elite doesn't mean I'm new and it certainly doesn't mean that you know what your talking about just b/c you have 5millions posts here!!!

Funny thing is I see other sources on these threads posting shit against ProLINE...wow, I wonder why they would do that Then once people say they have ordered from him and everything went well all you have to say is he is still a piece of shit...wow, what a good answer

Faking lab reports??? Whatever you say. Call the lab and verify the report for yourself before accusing me of faking anything. I recognized your handle from meso where you were literally kissing the ground that he walks on. Proline is still a piece of shit in my eyes. I could get into the litany of reasons why but what's the point? Here's the story in a nutshell.

When you refer the guy tons of business like I have in the past and orders are being delayed for months and he is being non-responsive to peoples' emails who do think they go back to??? They go back to the person that referred them to Proline in the first place and ask for help.

Not only was Proline non-responsive to those people he was also non-responsive to me. Then he changed his email addy so he wouldn't be bombarded with customer complaints and dropped off the face of the earth for a few weeks. People were beginning to think they got scammed and for good reason. The real fucked up thing about it was that he was still accepting money for new orders while he was still months behind on existing orders. These delays caused a great inconvenience and fucked up people's cycle schedule who were relying on getting their gear in the timeframe advertised on his list - 1 week!

Now proof has been shown that his gear was and probably still is underdosed. For many people this is salt on the wounds. Not only did they have to wait a ridiculous amount of time for their gear they also ended up getting shortchanged in the process.

 

[PsychoPikey]

whose to say that lab actually recieved one of prolines products ?
or perhaps someone mixed it with blank oil to make it less potent

all i am saying is that there are lots of human grade dealers who dont like the competition from underground labs and they could be motivated to ruin underground labs reputations.

 

[muscleup]

whose to say that lab actually recieved one of prolines products ?
or perhaps someone mixed it with blank oil to make it less potent

all i am saying is that there are lots of human grade dealers who dont like the competition from underground labs and they could be motivated to ruin underground labs reputations.

You sound like your connected to him in a way...

 

[Bonkme2]

Has PL said anything publicly? I know he's not on EF, and I only check some of the other boards off and on. I'm interested to hear what he has to say. He'll take a huge hit in business I would guess once this word filters around. Maybe he's looking for an excuse to take his money and run?

 

[Chikkin]

Has PL said anything publicly? I know he's not on EF, and I only check some of the other boards off and on. I'm interested to hear what he has to say. He'll take a huge hit in business I would guess once this word filters around. Maybe he's looking for an excuse to take his money and run?

Bro, the word isn't going to filter out. This is the same shit from H bomb and JA for months now....This is the only board that has people who believe them!!! JA was almost kicked off of VIPBB if I remember correctly....ProLINE is still on VIP and if this SHIT that JA and H bomb were proven then Pro would have been kicked off VIP.

Anyway, I feel like I've traveled back in time to put up with JA's bs again !!! I'm done with this...If anyone can prove that ProLINE's anything is underdosed or he has scammed them I would like to know...not just a post , but PROOF!!!

 

[PsychoPikey]

You sound like your connected to him in a way...

i've neva seen his list
but as you well know alot of mods/vets are sources or connected in some way and all it takes is a couple of them to discredit their competition.

 

[satchboogie]

questioning JA's integrity is an insult.
the bro may be wild and crazy, but is very knowledgable and does a fantastic job keeping us aware of current updates.

i can also assure you that he's not 'competition' for proline or anybody else for that matter.. just one crazy bastard who wont take anybody's shit!!

that why we love him!

 

[Juice Authority]

Bro, the word isn't going to filter out. This is the same shit from H bomb and JA for months now....This is the only board that has people who believe them!!! JA was almost kicked off of VIPBB if I remember correctly....ProLINE is still on VIP and if this SHIT that JA and H bomb were proven then Pro would have been kicked off VIP.

Anyway, I feel like I've traveled back in time to put up with JA's bs again !!! I'm done with this...If anyone can prove that ProLINE's anything is underdosed or he has scammed them I would like to know...not just a post , but PROOF!!!

You fucking nimrod! I was never "almost" kicked off VIP for this or anything else. PurpleHaze started a thread over at VIP warning people to stay away from Proline and he's no longer a VIP aproved source so get your facts straight asshole. Go back to Meso where you belong since that's the only board that backs that piece of shit.

 

[AAP]

My experience with proline was absolutely shitty.

He has zero customer service skills. And not only that, but he still owes me one bottle from my order that I have yet to see.

Oh, he is Johnny On The Spot before you send your money, but once it is picked up, you might as well kiss any social skills or manners goodbye. Completely ignoring customers emails, giving out fake tracking numbers, saying it was mailed yesterday, but then an hour later saying it will be mailed tomorrow, etc.. etc...

Why would anyone want to use him?

 

[Juice Authority]

My experience with proline was absolutely shitty.

He has zero customer service skills. And not only that, but he still owes me one bottle from my order that I have yet to see.

Oh, he is Johnny On The Spot before you send your money, but once it is picked up, you might as well kiss any social skills or manners goodbye. Completely ignoring customers emails, giving out fake tracking numbers, saying it was mailed yesterday, but then an hour later saying it will be mailed tomorrow, etc.. etc...

Why would anyone want to use him?

I couldn't have put it better myself.

 

[psychedout]

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Agreed.

 

[Juice Authority]

JA was almost kicked off of VIPBB if I remember correctly

THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. I CHECKED WITH THE MODS OVER AT VIP AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT NOW GET LOST! ANY CREDIBILITY YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD IS GONE!

 

[WannaImpress]

questioning JA's integrity is an insult.
the bro may be wild and crazy, but is very knowledgable and does a fantastic job keeping us aware of current updates.

i can also assure you that he's not 'competition' for proline or anybody else for that matter.. just one crazy bastard who wont take anybody's shit!!

that why we love him!

LOL............damn do I have to agree with you their Satch. Don't take it to heart though JA, nothin but love!

 

[Juice Authority]

LOL............damn do I have to agree with you their Satch. Don't take it to heart though JA, nothin but love!

Thanks Bro.

 

[H Bomb79]

i go to work and come back to this bs. chikin i am not even going to respond to you.

H Bomb

 

[Mavy]

Bro, the word isn't going to filter out. This is the same shit from H bomb and JA for months now....This is the only board that has people who believe them!!! JA was almost kicked off of VIPBB if I remember correctly....ProLINE is still on VIP and if this SHIT that JA and H bomb were proven then Pro would have been kicked off VIP.

Anyway, I feel like I've traveled back in time to put up with JA's bs again !!! I'm done with this...If anyone can prove that ProLINE's anything is underdosed or he has scammed them I would like to know...not just a post , but PROOF!!!

Bro ... no offence but you are out of the loop. ProLINE is dissed on any board that you go to ... EXCEPT meso. The word is defintaly out, and so is the lab test. He has been banned from VIP for A LONG TIME NOW. JA is still there. ProLINE is just another one of those statistics now, of how one time good sources went down the drain.

Mavy

 

[_Yossarian_]

No need to drag Hbomb into this. He didnt post the results, only tested the gear for his personal edification. Im sure he wanted no part in this little drama, so we should probably just leave his name out of it altogether.

 

[Juice Authority]

No need to drag Hbomb into this. He didnt post the results, only tested the gear for his personal edification. Im sure he wanted no part in this little drama, so we should probably just leave his name out of it altogether.

That's the ironic thing about this. H Bomb rountinely tests products that he plans to use in his own cycles. There is no other "ulterior" motive.

 

[John450]

That's the ironic thing about this. H Bomb rountinely tests products that he plans to use in his own cycles. There is no other "ulterior" motive.

What about FAKE RSOC primo lab test? Hbomb is known to back WW from BB4L. Hbomb tests RSOC primo it comes out to be bunk and everyone gets amazing results on it, then a few months later QGL primo tests out overdosed. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.

 

[Chikkin]

THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT. I CHECKED WITH THE MODS OVER AT VIP AND YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT NOW GET LOST! ANY CREDIBILITY YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD IS GONE!

I'm withdrawing from this conversation....The thing is you have no life and you have time to sit on you ass and post all day so keep on doing it!!!

 

[babbabuee]

whatever JA says, I got his back too. but damn, i've got a 20ml bottle of test e and eq both from Proline. then again, they aren't 500mg/ml, so hopefully he didn't skimp on the 250mg version.
argh, I don't even want to think about it.

 

[nsashbl01]

He lied to me and fucked me around after taking my cash. Despite any lab tests, he's a horrible businessman. I tested an early batch of var and it was good. He fucked me around majorly on the next order, so he lost my trust. Who know's if the second batch is any good as well. I'm glad there's guys on this board with the balls to stand up. Thanks.....

 

[Juice Authority]

I'm withdrawing from this conversation....The thing is you have no life and you have time to sit on you ass and post all day so keep on doing it!!!

Yeah, you're withdrawing from this conversation. Right! You just PM'd me to say that you and Proline were going to post my personal information on the boards. Please head my warning:

If you or Proline go so far as to post any of my personal info on any of the boards Proline will pay a very heafy price. Before you consider doing that you might want to tell Proline "Brad" that I have ALL of his personal info as well. Don't think for a second that I won't hestitate to forward that info on to various law enforcement agencies. Don't fuck wth me punk!

 

[_Yossarian_]

I think this thread has gone far enough. If you trust Proline, buy his gear. If not, use someohne else!! this shit is getting stupid, and dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Juice Authority]

I think this thread has gone far enough. If you trust Proline, buy his gear. If not, use someohne else!! this shit is getting stupid, and dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry Bro but I don't take kindly to threats like that and neither would anyone else. That's way out of line.

 

[muscleup]

I think this thread has gone far enough. If you trust Proline, buy his gear. If not, use someohne else!! this shit is getting stupid, and dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!!! good god you can't even debate anymore...I wish I was A mod here...I would lock this bitch down

 

[Juice Authority]

Here's what the fucker said:

"You've fucked with me for the last time...I'm diggin up shit on you from VIP and info that ProLINE has about you and posting it"

 

[Wrongun]

Here's what the fucker said:

"You've fucked with me for the last time...I'm diggin up shit on you from VIP and info that ProLINE has about you and posting it"

i would say that by using a statement like that you have hit a nerve / truth Bro

good work

Wrongun!

 

[Dial_tone]

I think this thread has gone far enough. If you trust Proline, buy his gear. If not, use someohne else!! this shit is getting stupid, and dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chikkin]

Yeah, you're withdrawing from this conversation. Right! You just PM'd me to say that you and Proline were going to post my personal information on the boards. Please head my warning:

If you or Proline go so far as to post any of my personal info on any of the boards Proline will pay a very heafy price. Before you consider doing that you might want to tell Proline "Brad" that I have ALL of his personal info as well. Don't think for a second that I won't hestitate to forward that info on to various law enforcement agencies. Don't fuck wth me punk!

Sorry bro, I didn't say that I was gonna post your personal info...I said I was gonna dig up the shit you started a few months ago and post it...Don't get all upset sweetheart...I'm outa this shit...I got better things to do!!!

 

[Juice Authority]

Sorry bro, I didn't say that I was gonna post your personal info...I said I was gonna dig up the shit you started a few months ago and post it...Don't get all upset sweetheart...I'm outa this shit...I got better things to do!!!

For a guy that's "outa of this shit" you sure have a lot to say. Anyway, this is getting old and accomplishing nothing.

 

[AAP]

To those saying "stop talking about it"... is that what REALLY should happen?

I mean, if no one complained about this guy, other guys would be losing their money on him. Think about it... if you were going with a new source, wouldn't you want to hear whether or not he was trustworthy?

 

[Juice Authority]

To those saying "stop talking about it"... is that what REALLY should happen?

I mean, if no one complained about this guy, other guys would be losing their money on him. Think about it... if you were going with a new source, wouldn't you want to hear whether or not he was trustworthy?

That goes back the whole purpose behind this thread. Yeah, Proline has become a big name in the UG lab scene but people should have all the facts before they consider ordering.

 

[H Bomb79]

hey john if the rsoc primo report is fake then call the lab and give them the set id number and then tell me what you have to say.

if you don't know what you are talking about then don't say anything at all.

H Bomb

 

[theprofessional]

Does anyone think Chikken is proline?

 

[Juice Authority]

Does anyone think Chikken is proline?

There's definitely a strong tie there. He even talks like Proline.

 

[John450]

I'm withdrawing from this conversation....The thing is you have no life and you have time to sit on you ass and post all day so keep on doing it!!!

I have to agree on this, this "JUICE AUTHORITY" has no life except forums. Total loser. LOL.

 

[Chikkin]

There's definitely a strong tie there. He even talks like Proline.

Thats funny...On MESO people say I am OmniLabs...lol

Sorry, I wish I were a source, but I'm afraid I am not....I'm from the south and PL is up north