Proline's underdosed 500EQ - lab report

[concordsize]

any lab work on GTP, TF, BL???

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[_Yossarian_]

ive never seen any...

 

[psychedout]

Even if Proline gets back up to par, nobody should support him.

Bottom line is he cut corners, and stole peoples hard earned cash.

If you support him in the future (**IF, and thats a big if, his stuff gets up to par) you are supporting a crook. And in supporting him, I would think of you as being no more respect worthy than Proline himself.

 

[satchboogie]

Even if Proline gets back up to par, nobody should support him.

Bottom line is he cut corners, and stole peoples hard earned cash.

If you support him in the future (**IF, and thats a big if, his stuff gets up to par) you are supporting a crook. And in supporting him, I would think of you as being no more respect worthy than Proline himself.

the smart ones who plan on 'long-term'ing' will make less money but keep things under control.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

satch, they are only making slightly less money. Realistically, lets say he makes a bottle of eq that is suppost to contain 10,000 mg, but is half dosed so only contains 5,000 mg. I don't know his prices, but lets say he charges $300 for the bottle. Maybe $50 of it goes to pay expenenses. His manufacturing cost is what $100, tops. He is probably only paying $60 maybe $70 for his bu, so if he cuts the dose in half the guy, is only making another $35 on top of his $150 profit. He is screwing guys for a very margin increase in the 20-25% range. That's bad business for anyone who plans on doing it long term and keeping a good rep.

 

[satchboogie]

and for that reason, BBF, i just dont think he did it intentionally.
i'd like to hear what he has to say.

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

Even if Proline gets back up to par, nobody should support him.Bottom line is he cut corners, and stole peoples hard earned cash.If you support him in the future (**IF, and thats a big if, his stuff gets up to par) you are supporting a crook. And in supporting him, I would think of you as being no more respect worthy than Proline himself.

agreed. Then he changes names to MegaMuscle Labs or whatever and gets new locations of payment and operation and he is right back in business under a new lab name...until his shit gets tested bunk, then the cycle repeats itself...

Articles and tests like this make it very difficult to have any confidence in any UG labs. Orbit, BL, GTP, very difficult to know what UG lab to trust for quality product, consistently.

Peace

 

[Deleted member 33117]

and for that reason, BBF, i just dont think he did it intentionally.
i'd like to hear what he has to say.

Good point. It doesn't make sense. The guy has worked hard on developing a good reputation, and a long term business. Why screw yourself for such a small margin increase? Raw materials are just not that expensive.

 

[satchboogie]

the answer is right there my friends..

pay more and get human grade pharmaceutical goodies.
pay less play the dice.. its that simple

 

[Juice Authority]

Good point. It doesn't make sense. The guy has worked hard on developing a good reputation, and a long term business. Why screw yourself for such a small margin increase? Raw materials are just not that expensive.

First off, when you're at the kind of volume Prolin puts out $35 on top of his margin adds up quickly. Another thing to consider is that Proline was running way behind on orders. He might have run into a material shortage and decided cut corners in order to get his product out the door. BigAndy alluded to this in his recent post on UG labs.

"Cutting Corners

We need 2000 EQs ASAP but we only have raw materials for 1000. Well, you now have 100mg/ml labeled as 200mg/ml. 90% of labs will cut corners when the stress is on.

Be very wary of large brands that are never out of stock. That's what made Spectro so special in the earlier days. He didn't cut corners. I remember he was out of Eq for 2 months. It hurt him financially but he stuck to his core beliefs.

Unpredictable problems

There are many problems that can plague an UG organization. It is an illegal operation and some shady people are involved. Some of these lower level chemist can be real sleaze balls. There was a case where the chemist was putting out underdosed products under the subcontracted name and using the raw materials for his own line. He basically hurts the competition, takes there money and puts out his superior product. Brilliant. These guys usually end up in dumpsters. Also, there is the aspect of organized crime getting involved and wanting a piece. Those guys obviously don't care about putting out a quality product. They want to make money as fast as possible and then get out.

There is also a chance of getting ripped off by the raw material supplier although some labs use that as an excuse."