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Prohormones: The Real Deal

wojo said:
mike raz=smacked assed animal wannabe with theories based on comic book science....so mikey what do you think about cosmic rays?

WOJ, pro-cosmic rays are the shit. Me and this chick used cosmic rays, and I blew up into a 500lb solid orange stone freak. I got huge strength from it, and the girl can now turn invisible. Great shit...you can buy the kit to convert your pro-cosmic rays into an injectable, from Animal.
 
pa1ad said:
MikeRaz, by nothing more than pure luck (after all if you guess about shit 1000 times you are right once or twice), actually is probably right about the methyl nor-5-diol being estrogenic because the non-methylated nor-5-diol has shown very strong binding to the ER (quite a bit more even than 5-diol)

I wasn't saying that statement was wrong actually, just that he had no basis for making an assumption like that. Guessing correctly by way of warped logic doesn't count :)

- Bill
 
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cockdezl said:


WOJ, pro-cosmic rays are the shit. Me and this chick used cosmic rays, and I blew up into a 500lb solid orange stone freak. I got huge strength from it, and the girl can now turn invisible. Great shit...you can buy the kit to convert your pro-cosmic rays into an injectable, from Animal.

yeah i used that kit also didn't get big but i had a weird side effect (that i'm not complaining about at all ) i now have a ..a..3rd leg that stretches..i tried it out in a fantastic four way with 3 brunettes last night...now all i need ist to get in better shape lmao

wonder if someone will offer a methylated version,wonder what it will assay out to be
 
MIKERAZ said:
Wow slow down here i never said you dont know any information and are not knowledgable , i do respect your knowledge and innovations allot . But theres also room for the knowledge of animal and others who i get most of my info from.

How in the world is anadrol a prohormone and not have anabolic activity and not have activity ? Anadrol isnt a diol and is beta-hydroxy'd.

And you said the diol's might not have anabolic activity then how in the world could methyl-4ad have activity? if the base isnt anabolic, neither is it methylated cousin.


Do you know the definition of prohormone? Anadrol might be a prohormone because it has negligible binding to the androgen receptor in-vitro, yet it is very active in-vivo. This suggests that it converts in the body to the active species, and there are several possible active metabolites of anadrol that have been identified.

AS far as your comment on diols, please try to look up the term "intrinsic". You are not following the context of the discussion at all. You are very confused.
 
pa1ad said:



Do you know the definition of prohormone? Anadrol might be a prohormone because it has negligible binding to the androgen receptor in-vitro, yet it is very active in-vivo. This suggests that it converts in the body to the active species, and there are several possible active metabolites of anadrol that have been identified.

AS far as your comment on diols, please try to look up the term "intrinsic". You are not following the context of the discussion at all. You are very confused.


Anadrol is not a pro-hormone it isnt a diol!!, second if 4ad doeasnt have intrinsic activity then methyl-4ad doesnt either , my source tells me if the parent hormone isnt anabolic then its methylated -version wont be anabolic either.
 
MIKERAZ said:
Anadrol is not a pro-hormone it isnt a diol!!, second if 4ad doeasnt have intrinsic activity then methyl-4ad doesnt either , my source tells me if the parent hormone isnt anabolic then its methylated -version wont be anabolic either.

Mikeraz, I'm sorry, but this is the same dumb-ass thing you posted 2 days ago. The universe has not changed since then.
 
MIKERAZ said:



Anadrol is not a pro-hormone it isnt a diol!!, second if 4ad doeasnt have intrinsic activity then methyl-4ad doesnt either , my source tells me if the parent hormone isnt anabolic then its methylated -version wont be anabolic either.



You are good for a million laughs mikeraz, really. I ask you one more time, what is the definition of a prohormone?

Also, your "source" has once again displayed his ignorance. There ARE examples of steroids that are anabolic in the 17-methyl form but are inactive in the non 17-methyl form. Case in point: Thiomesterone (US pat# 3087942)

You see MikeRaz, I have spent the last ten years reading scientific literature on this topic - thousands and thousands of hours in the library. Your source probably read a few things here and there and then figured that he is such a genius that he can figure the rest of it out through his brilliant intellect. But you see this is not philosophy, it is science, and science is not something that you just figure out sitting on the toilet.

I think its time you found a new guru to follow MikeRaz.
 
pa1ad said:




You are good for a million laughs mikeraz, really. I ask you one more time, what is the definition of a prohormone?

Also, your "source" has once again displayed his ignorance. There ARE examples of steroids that are anabolic in the 17-methyl form but are inactive in the non 17-methyl form. Case in point: Thiomesterone (US pat# 3087942)

You see MikeRaz, I have spent the last ten years reading scientific literature on this topic - thousands and thousands of hours in the library. Your source probably read a few things here and there and then figured that he is such a genius that he can figure the rest of it out through his brilliant intellect. But you see this is not philosophy, it is science, and science is not something that you just figure out sitting on the toilet.

I think its time you found a new guru to follow MikeRaz.

I do admit there seems to be conflicting info between my sources and the ones here (e.g Pro-Hormones must be dimethylated not single methylated,and he never read anything good about dimethylated Pro-hormones etc.). So are there any other Pro-hormones non diol , like anadrol? Did they ever dimethylate 4ad or other Pro-hormones



I guess i maybe should be more open to peoples opinion but i still say animals intelligence is high due to synovex kit etc.
 
MIKERAZ said:


I do admit there seems to be conflicting info between my sources and the ones here (e.g Pro-Hormones must be dimethylated not single methylated,and he never read anything good about dimethylated Pro-hormones etc.). So are there any other Pro-hormones non diol , like anadrol? Did they ever dimethylate 4ad or other Pro-hormones



I guess i maybe should be more open to peoples opinion but i still say animals intelligence is high due to synovex kit etc.



Mike Raz, you are confusing intelligence with knowledge. Socrates was one of the most intelligent people ever to live, but do you think he knew a goddam thing about steroids?
 
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