prohormone, can this be done safely?

[scottsinger13]

Im currently on a prohormone cycle, about half way through right now, but next weekend is my gfs prom and we got a shore house for the whole weekend. I want to know if its really dangerous for me to drink while im on the cycle and more importantly is there anything that i can do so that i can drink next weekend and not have to worry about it. Im currently using milk thistle from gnc, im taking 2 capsules a day. should i lower the prohormone dosage for the days i plan to drink so that im still taking it but it wont be as strong on those days? Any and all help/information would be really useful and thanks inadvance

 

[Bigpimpin10]

having a few drinks isnt bad.. but then again bro itd be better if you didnt have any..
when im on cycle..steroids or prohormones or even supplements.. i have gotten drunk a few times..
but it was very rare.. not good for your liver to be pounding down the alcohol and taking a prohormone as well

what are you taking..

 

[SouthernLord]

Im currently on a prohormone cycle, about half way through right now, but next weekend is my gfs prom and we got a shore house for the whole weekend. I want to know if its really dangerous for me to drink while im on the cycle and more importantly is there anything that i can do so that i can drink next weekend and not have to worry about it. Im currently using milk thistle from gnc, im taking 2 capsules a day. should i lower the prohormone dosage for the days i plan to drink so that im still taking it but it wont be as strong on those days? Any and all help/information would be really useful and thanks inadvance

Bro I really hope you're not doing PH/DS and your under 21-22 years old.

 

[iggy]

His girlfriends prom....
looks like he is either 21+ and has a 15-18yo girl
or he's still in high school.

you should just get off of it and stay off of it.
did one of those dummies from GNC tell you to take it?

what prohormone is it? what are your lifting stats?
such as how long you have been lifting, how long
without prohormones.

and milk thistle aint gonna do much at all for your liver.
you'd be better taking liv52 or a slew of other supplements.
milk thistle is about as good as a glass of water in my book.

i would recommend drinking for prom
but quitting the prohormones if your under 21.

i just turned 20 and i havent ever took a prohormone.
that and steroids will mess with you later in your life
if you do it at a young age.

 

[scottsinger13]

Im 20, my gf is 18 its her prom. Ive been lifting since i was 15. The Ph im using is the one. I was planning on stopping this friday so that i could drink this weekend, so that would mean stopping about half way through the cycle. If you guys suggest i not take it all together im going to have to order some kind of post cycle immedietly so that i get it by friday.

 

[iggy]

ah i see.
20 is not good.
not horrible either.

 

[dabuffguy]

Im 20, my gf is 18 its her prom. Ive been lifting since i was 15. The Ph im using is the one. I was planning on stopping this friday so that i could drink this weekend, so that would mean stopping about half way through the cycle. If you guys suggest i not take it all together im going to have to order some kind of post cycle immedietly so that i get it by friday.

Drop it altogether and get into PCT. Using hormones at a young age is not smart at all.

To answer your question, alcohol will further raise your liver values. Go ahead if you want, but it's not a good idea.

 

[iggy]

yeah buffguy, but drinking in moderation is fine.
i agree bro.
your 20, so ditch the prohormones and get some AMP02.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

holy shit i think i didnt read that part where he was taking his gf to the prom!!

 

[dabuffguy]

yeah buffguy, but drinking in moderation is fine.
i agree bro.
your 20, so ditch the prohormones and get some AMP02.

I didn't say it was a bad idea. Just not a good idea.


I don't drink at all anyways so I'm bias against drinking altogether, but that's another story.





It won't particularly hurt you, if that's what you want to hear Scott.

 

[SouthernLord]

What a waste of a perfectly good DS. Pretty immature on the OP's part. Can you just not drink? How long have you been on?

 

[dabuffguy]

What a waste of a perfectly good DS. Pretty immature on the OP's part. Can you just not drink? How long have you been on?

Good question. Just don't drink. I don't see why people think they need to get drunk to have a good time.

 

[SouthernLord]

Good question. Just don't drink. I don't see why people think they need to get drunk to have a good time.

I'm with you on this one. I haven't been "drunk" in close to three years. I go to bars and drink water. No big deal to me. I like to be in control of situations. Plus alcohol kills your gains.

 

[scottsinger13]

ha alright well thanks a lot everybody. the only question now is what should i use for post cycle. It comes with 2nd gear postcycle but should i also get the test recovery stack? or should i use just sustain alpha and POST CYCLE with the 2nd gear?

 

[SouthernLord]

ha alright well thanks a lot everybody. the only question now is what should i use for post cycle. It comes with 2nd gear postcycle but should i also get the test recovery stack? or should i use just sustain alpha and POST CYCLE with the 2nd gear?

OK....

I can't find any info on 2nd Gear other than it's an aromatase inhibitor. It is probably 6-bromo and ATD if I had to guess. I do not understand the use or popularity of these compounds for PCT. Non-Aromatizing DS/AAS/PH usually suppress you E levels. When you come off of cycle your E levels are in the shitter so you use a steroidal suicide inhibitor for PCT??? This make no sense. This is asking for massive estrogen rebound after your PCT and a nasty case of Gyno. I would not use second gear as your only PCT.

Personally..... My views are DS pcts are different than most guys here. I like to use SERMS and OTC products, versus just OTC products.

I don't know how long you were on???...but for a full 4 week cycle I would do.....

Nolva 20/20/20/20
TRS/Sustain Alpha 5 pumps daily
2nd Gear 0/0/0/1/1/1

 

[scottsinger13]

you would use the recovery stack and nolva? Ive only been on the cycle for 17 days

 

[needtogetaas]

Its not a good idea to drink but one night will not kill you.

 

[dabuffguy]

you would use the recovery stack and nolva? Ive only been on the cycle for 17 days

You won't need the nolva.

The TRS should be adequate if you haven't been on that long.

 

[cal62887]

you would use the recovery stack and nolva? Ive only been on the cycle for 17 days

The best rule of thumb you can have when running any PH/DS/AAS cycle is to have PCT on hand BEFORE starting the cycle.

I can't tell you how many horror stories I've heard about delayed shipment, out of stock items, or "my dealer has none" type of situations.

Good luck with your PCT and have fun at prom.

 

[dabuffguy]

The best rule of thumb you can have when running any PH/DS/AAS cycle is to have PCT on hand BEFORE starting the cycle.

I can't tell you how many horror stories I've heard about delayed shipment, out of stock items, or "my dealer has none" type of situations.

Good luck with your PCT and have fun at prom.

Live and learn, lol.

The worst thing it to sit around for a week while PCT is in the mail while your low test levels allow your muscles to disappear. No bueno.

 

[cal62887]

Live and learn, lol.

The worst thing it to sit around for a week while PCT is in the mail while your low test levels allow your muscles to disappear. No bueno.

The TRS looks interesting. Seems like it's a good stack especially considering the Coritsol control. Im running a mild PH with ATD/Trans-Res and I3C as PCT. Maybe I'll switch it up and give the TRS a go.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Bro I think you are fine to continue taking the PH. Might as well get the benefits from it now and then do a PCT. You are not that young to start taking PH's. Not the SAFEST thing you can do but its really not that bad at all. Especially with prohormones they only last 4 weeks, you are fine.

Do proper PCT, train natty for 6 months, then do another cycle if you want to.

 

[dabuffguy]

Bro I think you are fine to continue taking the PH. Might as well get the benefits from it now and then do a PCT. You are not that young to start taking PH's. Not the SAFEST thing you can do but its really not that bad at all. Especially with prohormones they only last 4 weeks, you are fine.

Do proper PCT, train natty for 6 months, then do another cycle if you want to.

Wrong. It is that bad. Flippantly excusing the fact of potentially screwing up the hormone balance of a maturing body IS a big deal.


Not sound advice. The quicker he gets off, the better.

21 is a BARE MINIMUM. Most shouldn't be touching it until they are 23-25 yrs old because their body hasn't fully matured.


This is your one and only body. If you screw up, you are stuck with a bush deal. Gotta use your heads bro's.

I don't mean this in a disrespectful or down talking tone, but this post reflects the immatuity of your age, which is of equal age to the OP's. This is one of the very reasons we discourage young guys using (besides the obvious dangers of ruining developing bodies), because the lack of maturity will potentially lead to misuse and abuse. This has happened before.


Not calling you out bro, but your post was not mature advice.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

Wrong. It is that bad. Flippantly excusing the fact of potentially screwing up the hormone balance of a maturing body IS a big deal.


Not sound advice. The quicker he gets off, the better.

21 is a BARE MINIMUM. Most shouldn't be touching it until they are 23-25 yrs old because their body hasn't fully matured.


This is your one and only body. If you screw up, you are stuck with a bush deal. Gotta use your heads bro's.

I don't mean this in a disrespectful or down talking tone, but this post reflects the immatuity of your age, which is of equal age to the OP's. This is one of the very reasons we discourage young guys using (besides the obvious dangers of ruining developing bodies), because the lack of maturity will potentially lead to misuse and abuse. This has happened before.


Not calling you out bro, but your post was not mature advice.

Thats fine bro, i dont want to argue but i dont think my advice is immature. I got blood tests after a PH vycle and I was fine

I said it wasnt the safest thing, but if you are already 17 days into a cycle you might as well finish it. 2 more weeks isnt going to give you issues down the road. Abuse has everything to do with control. I told him to wait 6 months gain naturally and then decide to do another cycle. Thats not abuse, he is almost an adult.

I know a lot of guys that started JUICIN when they were 18, 19. I know a lot of mods here did too .

If you wanted the safest advice it would be to never take steroids. They make your heart grow which is not good. No one should take steroids, reasons are too vain and immature. Why do you take steroids dabuff? Probably for a lame reason to most but to us we justify it. Even though it messes with our cholesterol, BP, liver, heart for a little bigger muscles.

 

[iggy]

you only live once.

no regrets. . . .

 

[rh0iue]

as everyone else stated your too young. and you obviously did NOT do any research into The One. If you did you would have known about supporting supps and where to get them (meaning NOT gnc).

LMFAO at trying to stop a cycle midway just to drink. LMFAO. if your concerend that much about drinking while on a cycle you should NOT be on the cycle. For example: if you were on TRT or (to make it easier for a noob) if you were fuking ur chick, would you stop halfway thru bc...lets say....bc ur hungry? no. you finish what you are doing. THEN you go eat. Also, since your underage even tho your 20, still young, you should not be taking them. However you started, and i believe you said you have been on for half the cycle or 17days? the damage is done already :/ so you might as well finish off the cycle for the best gains. but i HIGHLY recommend the proper pct for The One, and get blood work done.

another thing. why do you want to be drinking? i BELIEVE drinking stalls the healing of protien synthesis. (someone correct me if im wrong). Also, damages your liver, and being on an oral cycle, your liver is stressing out enough.

after pct and blood work. just train and diet hard. if ur trying to bulk add on calories proteins and carbs. If you NEED supplements add in some whey protein (cant beat WHEY), and possibly some creatine mono.

 

[iggy]

vyo-tech oryx goat whey.
best on the market.

 

[scottsinger13]

as everyone else stated your too young. and you obviously did NOT do any research into The One. If you did you would have known about supporting supps and where to get them (meaning NOT gnc).

LMFAO at trying to stop a cycle midway just to drink. LMFAO. if your concerend that much about drinking while on a cycle you should NOT be on the cycle. For example: if you were on TRT or (to make it easier for a noob) if you were fuking ur chick, would you stop halfway thru bc...lets say....bc ur hungry? no. you finish what you are doing. THEN you go eat. Also, since your underage even tho your 20, still young, you should not be taking them. However you started, and i believe you said you have been on for half the cycle or 17days? the damage is done already :/ so you might as well finish off the cycle for the best gains. but i HIGHLY recommend the proper pct for The One, and get blood work done.

another thing. why do you want to be drinking? i BELIEVE drinking stalls the healing of protien synthesis. (someone correct me if im wrong). Also, damages your liver, and being on an oral cycle, your liver is stressing out enough.

after pct and blood work. just train and diet hard. if ur trying to bulk add on calories proteins and carbs. If you NEED supplements add in some whey protein (cant beat WHEY), and possibly some creatine mono.

i always stop half way during sex to aggravate who im with and keep them coming back for more. Dude please shut the fuck up. I did research and ive been reading everything on these boards for a while now. I have been using supporting supplements while im taking it, and im going to stop on friday and start pct mainly because everyone has been stressing how unsafe it is at my age.
And as for drinking, i dont even need to explain to you why people drink. I like social drinking as does most of the entire world. Im sorry you have no friends and nothing to do except spend ur time on this site bashing people cause you live in the gym. PROTEIN! POWER BARS! The sounds like you boss. I know plently of people just like you bro and i know what people like you are about and its fucking sad it really is. If you want to help, then help but dont sound like an idiot because I dont want to hear it, probably how people in your life dont want to hear it either. Thanks

 

[rh0iue]

I did research and ive been reading everything on these boards for a while now.

And as for drinking, i dont even need to explain to you why people drink.

I know plently of people just like you bro and i know what people like you are about and its fucking sad it really is.

If you want to help, then help but dont sound like an idiot because I dont want to hear it, probably how people in your life dont want to hear it either. Thanks

LMFAO....if you did your research why are you asking such DUMB questions?

another LMFAO, ummm...i didnt ask for you to explain to me why people drink. they usually drink to have fun, but when i go out to the club, i already know getting my dick wet is funner.

you know me??!!? shit! ur a creep...go get a life

and last but not least, if people dont want to hear my advice, then why do they ask for it in the gym, at work, and university cafe?


lol

 

[dabuffguy]

LMFAO....if you did your research why are you asking such DUMB questions?

another LMFAO, ummm...i didnt ask for you to explain to me why people drink. they usually drink to have fun, but when i go out to the club, i already know getting my dick wet is funner.

you know me??!!? shit! ur a creep...go get a life

and last but not least, if people dont want to hear my advice, then why do they ask for it in the gym, at work, and university cafe?


lol

Knock this crap off now. We dont disrespect people here.

Both of you cool it, or you both we'll be banned from the site. I'd rather not do that, but $#!T-talking is not allowed in the aas, supplement, diet and training forums at all. None.

This is your only warning.

 

[rh0iue]

haha sorry bout that, just had to defend myself to an attack. wont happen again

 

[dabuffguy]

haha sorry bout that, just had to defend myself to an attack. wont happen again

I understand where you ae coming from. He was at fault just as much as you.

We need to keep the boards friendly. Otherwise it just sucks when everybody cusses eachother out.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

fuck you dabuff!!!!

haha jk jk broseph

 

[the.gladiator1987]

its the test bro sorry

 

[dabuffguy]

lololol



you betta check yo-self fool

hahaha

 

[the.gladiator1987]

lololol



you betta check yo-self fool

hahaha

Haha

Ive actually learned that everything is better here when you dont talk shit and act tough. Thats so lame, and on the Chat forum I always acted like a dick, but thats changed. Lot of good bros in here and its just disrespectful to the Mods when they have to babysit and tell people to knock it off, over the internet LOL

 

[dabuffguy]

fuck you dabuff!!!!

haha jk jk broseph

That's "Mr. Broseph" to you. lol

Lot of good bros in here and its just disrespectful to the Mods when they have to babysit and tell people to knock it off, over the internet LOL

The internet gives people some mystical justification for acting like total jerks to eachother.

That reason is because they won't get their teeth knocked for saying rude things to people's faces. It's really cowardess and immature to be honest. And I have been guilty of this before myself, so I'm not a perfect being.

I don;t mind just telling people to chape up. It's bound to happen from time to time that people become annoyed or irrtated with other peoples replies. We're human, it happens. Turning it into a full-blown pissing match is where it just gets ridiculous and the board becomes wholly uninviting. Then it ruins it for everyone.

 

[cal62887]

If it means anything, the mods and mentors do a great job over here.

I'm a mod on another board and it seems as though you put yourself in the line of fire every time you post. A few Mods on my board have gotten serious threats and accusations pulled against them for simply doing their job. It's really a thankless job.

I appreciate you guys working so hard over here.

 

[dabuffguy]

If it means anything, the mods and mentors do a great job over here.

I'm a mod on another board and it seems as though you put yourself in the line of fire every time you post. A few Mods on my board have gotten serious threats and accusations pulled against them for simply doing their job. It's really a thankless job.

I appreciate you guys working so hard over here.

We just ban people causing trouble like that. We don't put up with garbage and crap talking and threats at all.


Thanks for the kind words.