primobolan/trenbolan adding winst and HGH

[badq8]

im just starting my cycle which consists of Apex pharmaceuticals Primobolan 100mg/ml, trenbolonr 76mg/ml 10ml and im thinking of adding winstrol and HGH, im 23 yrs old with a 5,6 175 lbs, BF 18%, training 5 days a week.
Do you recommend adding the winstrol and the gh? the purpose of this cycle is to get a lean/ripped look.

 

[eClenbuterol]

Bro please list all your stats, and how many cycles that you have ran.

 

[goin on 4T]

Don't waist your money on the GH, just keep your diet clean, which it isn't or you wouldn't 18% BF @ your age, and add cardio 3-4 per week 20-30 min. There I just saved you a minimum of $1,200.

 

[badq8]

I have only cycled once which was a year ago, that included finbolan/paraponaite/andiol and did it for 5 weeks, also did nalvodex and legalon from day 1 of the cycle, before the cycle my testestrone level was 15.2 nmol/l and after the cycle in 2 months my test. level was 10.9, i just recieved my test level yesterday which is 12.3 nmol/l
now my 5 weeks cycle consists of Apex primobolan 100mg/ml 10ml, Thaiger trenbolone 200mg/ml 10ml and im thinking of adding winstrol and HGH after receiving my GH spot test.
im thinking of doing 200mg of tren per week / 300-400 mg primo per week/ 50mg winstrol twice a week.
my goal is to get a lean/ripped look whereas i have been working out and on a strict diet for the past year and half eating 1500-2000 calories per day which consists of 170 grams of protien and cutting off carbs in the afternoon but did not reach my goal of getting the look i want whereas my top period was 12.4% BF.
I workout 4-5 times a week doing supersets for the last year and now changed it into compound exercise, body fat last summer was 12.4% but now due to trying to gain weight bumped it up to 18.3%,

 

[needtogetaas]

HGH for fat loss? pffft kind of a waist man.

 

[Therealdeal06555]

Honostly I think what you need is to step up the cardio..You said you have been eating clean for the past year and you are still at 18% bf...
Step up cardio, Add some Test, and forget about the GH...

Cardio + tren + prop = one happy dude

 

[badq8]

18% bf was due to stoppping the diet and trying to gain size, during my diet i was at 12.4% BF, what PCT do you guys recommend if im using tren/primo/winstrol, whereas i dont want my testesterone level to go down again and would like to gain my 15 nmol/l back again, should i use HCG in the middle of the 5 weeks cycle whereas I have read in the"steriods 101" thread that its better to do hcg in between the cycle rather than the end.
Now i have nalvodex / clomid / legalon / cystone, what is ur recommendation for this non-estrogenic cycle

 

[mattu3743]

whats eating clean to you?? Instead of eating 2 big mac you now eat one?? you eat more chicken breast and their from kane's?

 

[tdidd42]

ok, winny you need to take every day. need test in cycle, and 1,500 to 2,000 calories is not enough food, i am assuming you never posted your weight and height. I like hgh and i lose bf from it, but i am 36. your young probably not worh it for you. but i would put money that your diet sucks. With proper diet alone and no wking out you can get dowin to 12% easy, so i assume something is wrong there.

 

[sweed]

why no test in that cycle? only 5 weeks long? maybe test prop 1-8, primo 1-8, tren 1-6.
for pct read the pct sticky at the top. I Havn't ran gear in 4 years so I have no used the new pct which many guys have recovered fine with.

 

[badq8]

mattu3748 dude do u work in MC or something? dont assume things that u dont know about, and no, i havent eaten junk food for the past 2 years, the reason why I cam down to 12.4% BF in 1 year was that i was 209lbs of pure fat and reduced it in 6 months due to workout and diet to 160 lbs

 

[badq8]

guys the reason why im using this cycle tren enanthate / primo / winstrol is because honestly this is my second cycle and the reason of this cycle is to get lean/ripped, whereas my first cycle was a year ago and consisted of parbolan / proponaite / anadiol, and im the type of person whois paranoid from AAS and dont want to mess around with testesterone, but will this cycle really effect my testesterone level? because before last year cycle my test levels where 15.2 nmol/l, after the cycle in 2 months it was 10.9 nmol/l and now after a year its 12.4 nmol/l, im starting the cycle next sunday but the thing I am missing is the PCT, becuase as you can see there is no estrogen conversion here, so what do you recommend? and if you think i should add test please clarify why and what should i add with the dosage.
thank you.

 

[badq8]

here is my cycle, i started winstrol yesterday but decided not to continue untill the last 2 weeks.

week 1 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 3 ml primo 100mg/ml, 1 ml winstrol 50mg/ml

week 2 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 3 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 4 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 5 - 2 ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 3 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 6 - 2 ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 2 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 7 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 5 ml winstrol 50mg/ml

week 8 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml winstrol 50mg/ml

the reason why im doing this because i dont want to inject more than 5ml per week, your feedback is appreciated.

 

[centeroiler]

guys the reason why im using this cycle tren enanthate / primo / winstrol is because honestly this is my second cycle and the reason of this cycle is to get lean/ripped, whereas my first cycle was a year ago and consisted of parbolan / proponaite / anadiol, and im the type of person whois paranoid from AAS and dont want to mess around with testesterone, but will this cycle really effect my testesterone level? because before last year cycle my test levels where 15.2 nmol/l, after the cycle in 2 months it was 10.9 nmol/l and now after a year its 12.4 nmol/l, im starting the cycle next sunday but the thing I am missing is the PCT, becuase as you can see there is no estrogen conversion here, so what do you recommend? and if you think i should add test please clarify why and what should i add with the dosage.
thank you.

Wait. You are doing Tren Enanthate and you are paranoid about good old fashioned Testosterone??? C'mon bro, get your priorities straight. Test should come first.

Here we go again. WHY START A CYCLE AND THEN ASK FOR ADVICE??? U see more and more of this on this board every day. Your post is all numbers and mumbo jumbo with no substance or logic to form a basis on anything.

And... Andiol is not a steroid it is a testosterone precursor. paraponaite? nalvodex?trenbolonr? TESTESTERONE??????? Don't know wtf these are. I'm sorry, but you're killing me. If you're gonna take them at least spell 'em right! Sounds like you need to go back to the drawing board.

clomid ? legalon? cystone? MAYBE THESE ARE THE ONLY THINGS YOU SHOULD BE TAKING.

 

[mattu3743]

mattu3748 dude do u work in MC or something? dont assume things that u dont know about, and no, i havent eaten junk food for the past 2 years, the reason why I cam down to 12.4% BF in 1 year was that i was 209lbs of pure fat and reduced it in 6 months due to workout and diet to 160 lbs

post up your diet bro, and if its a decent diet i would appologize to you, being on this forum for a long time now
and we see a whole lot of people just like you bro almost everyday.....and by the way i dont work at MC, and what the fuck is that

 

[badq8]

cent, thanks for ur advice, and here's one for u, u should think about taking a chill pill, we're all posting here to get help and feedback, its not a spelling/grammer contest website.

mattu my diet back then was very simple, no fatty/junk food, eating around 170+ lbs protien, cutting out carbs in the middle of the day, having 5-6 meals per day, very rich in protiens.

what feedback do u guys have on the cycle that i have just posted?

 

[badq8]

guys the reason why im doing a 5ml injection per week because my Dr. advised me not to inject more than that or my kidney's will be effected real bad, what do u think about this statement?

 

[2evil]

here is my cycle, i started winstrol yesterday but decided not to continue untill the last 2 weeks.

week 1 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 3 ml primo 100mg/ml, 1 ml winstrol 50mg/ml

week 2 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 3 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 4 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 5 - 2 ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 3 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 6 - 2 ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 2 ml primo 100mg/ml

week 7 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 5 ml winstrol 50mg/ml

week 8 - 1ml of tren enanthate 200mg/ml, 4 ml winstrol 50mg/ml

the reason why im doing this because i dont want to inject more than 5ml per week, your feedback is appreciated.

I think your dick will stop working. You need test...

 

[2evil]

guys the reason why im doing a 5ml injection per week because my Dr. advised me not to inject more than that or my kidney's will be effected real bad, what do u think about this statement?

I would find a new doc. No logic to this statement...

 

[badq8]

even with this dosage you think ill have sides? what if i am using tablets that help produce nautral test., will that help?

 

[badq8]

guys the reason of this cycle is to get lean muscle, my training consists of 5 day compound exercises, do you guys recommend i drop the tren enanthate and continue using primo and winstrol because seriously i dont want to acquire any side effects and i thought that tren enanthate / primo / winstrol is a very mild cycle, well i should have done more homework.

so would you guys recommend for a 2nd timer to drop the tren and continue with only the primo and winstrol? or is the tren dosage safe whereas i will not do the 2 ml per week tren, i will continue with a 1ml per week, every saturday.

right now im using during the cycle legalon twice a day, cystone 3 times a day, vitamin e tablets once a day, zinc tablets once a day and next week ill start the test. tablets 3 times a day for 21 days, u guys might have heard of it its called 2+ hp test. growth.

 

[2evil]

guys the reason of this cycle is to get lean muscle, my training consists of 5 day compound exercises, do you guys recommend i drop the tren enanthate and continue using primo and winstrol because seriously i dont want to acquire any side effects and i thought that tren enanthate / primo / winstrol is a very mild cycle, well i should have done more homework.

so would you guys recommend for a 2nd timer to drop the tren and continue with only the primo and winstrol? or is the tren dosage safe whereas i will not do the 2 ml per week tren, i will continue with a 1ml per week, every saturday.

right now im using during the cycle legalon twice a day, cystone 3 times a day, vitamin e tablets once a day, zinc tablets once a day and next week ill start the test. tablets 3 times a day for 21 days, u guys might have heard of it its called 2+ hp test. growth.

I would drop the tren and add in test @ 400-500mg. Also no need for the winnie stick with primo/ test.

 

[2evil]

even with this dosage you think ill have sides? what if i am using tablets that help produce nautral test., will that help?

Yes - you'll still be shut down. This is why you need test.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Nice thread...




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[centeroiler]

cent, thanks for ur advice, and here's one for u, u should think about taking a chill pill, we're all posting here to get help and feedback, its not a spelling/grammer contest website.

Why don't you grow some thicker skin bro? If you're gonna post a thread like yours, you should expect criticism. I don't need you to tell me to take a chill pill. That's as immature and juvenile as your careless spelling mistakes. Do you know how irritating it is to read a post and have to decipher whether or not we are even talking about real gear or a play on letters like the junk being sold at Legal Steroids? Its not a spellcheck and everybody, including myself, makes mistakes. But, over and over it gets, well...irritating.

I'm sorry if I come off as harsh, but its just plain foolish to start a cycle then change gears and start fucking around dropping and adding shit. I see threads like this and I just shake my head. These are powerful drugs that need to be respected and you should have had this all figured out before hand.

You don't have to worry because I won't attempt to help you anymore.