Primobolan + Test Enth Cycle??

[SuperStrong]

Just about finishing up week 2 (out of 12) on first cycle of: 200mg Test+400mg Primo per week (split up into Mon, Thurs inject)

I have my training down pat, eating lots of clean quality protein and carbs // Already have decent to low bf% levels. Goals is mass gain.

Not really noticing insane pump or hardness that I thought would come from primo (from respected UG lab so it's authentic).

Also have anavar enough for the whole 12 weeks but I thought that might be overkill to use the whole 12 weeks, so might just throw it in on week 11,12.

I haven't really noticed any sides on 200mg of Test per week, and Primo isn't really known for sides. And I'm only using a low dose ATD supplement as an anti-estrogen as well as natural supps. So maybe i'm not too prone to estrogen sides, or too soon to tell?

I was under the impression that adding Primo (especially at 400mg) would make Testosterone Enth effective at a low dose. So is 400 primo + 200 Test comparable to 500 Test E only cycle in terms of gains? Or will the latter, 500mg test only cycle, produce more gains? And if so, should I up my weekly test dosage to 400mg Test + 400mg Primo? Or should I give my original cycle a few more weeks to kick in?

By the way, how long till the effects of primo enth and test enth become very apparent?

 

[wolfman87]

well i mean it's all personal preference really. as for me, i would up the test base to 400. it will definitely increase your gains. however you're gains on the current cycle would be good too if your eating and training right...

 

[eClenbuterol]

It's only week 2 for the Primo and Test give it a bit more time.

 

[nydj66]

Primo is slow and steady. You don't get a big bang at the beginning.

I ran that cycle at 250mg/wk enanthate, 800mg/wk Primo and loved it. It did cost me about 1/4" of my hairline though.

 

[Nelson Montana]

You should be noticing something but granted it's still soon the dose is light. Primo gains are subtle. Whatever increase the scale says is usually pure muscle. Guys gain 5 pounds and don;t even know it because the weigth is so clean.

You can try bumping each 100 mgs and give it a week or so. If nothing happens, something's not right.

 

[enacer420nj]

You should be noticing something but granted it's still soon the dose is light. Primo gains are subtle. Whatever increase the scale says is usually pure muscle. Guys gain 5 pounds and don;t even know it because the weigth is so clean.

You can try bumping each 100 mgs and give it a week or so. If nothing happens, something's not right.

This is so true I have been on 300 test 400 primo (bumped to 500 primo for the past week) for about 5 weeks. Within 2 weeks I noticed the primo working muscles getting hard and full but as nelson says you dont realize how much weight you put on. I put on about 8lbs already and couldnt beleive it but the scale doesnt lie. Im on a low dose of test/arimidex so you cant say its bloat. I love this stuff. If you dont notice full hard muscles within the next week or so I would question the dose/authenticity of it. Im running human grade and this is all I would trust when it comes to primo

 

[needtogetaas]

Just about finishing up week 2 (out of 12) on first cycle of: 200mg Test+400mg Primo per week (split up into Mon, Thurs inject)

I have my training down pat, eating lots of clean quality protein and carbs // Already have decent to low bf% levels. Goals is mass gain.

Not really noticing insane pump or hardness that I thought would come from primo (from respected UG lab so it's authentic).

Also have anavar enough for the whole 12 weeks but I thought that might be overkill to use the whole 12 weeks, so might just throw it in on week 11,12.

I haven't really noticed any sides on 200mg of Test per week, and Primo isn't really known for sides. And I'm only using a low dose ATD supplement as an anti-estrogen as well as natural supps. So maybe i'm not too prone to estrogen sides, or too soon to tell?

I was under the impression that adding Primo (especially at 400mg) would make Testosterone Enth effective at a low dose. So is 400 primo + 200 Test comparable to 500 Test E only cycle in terms of gains? Or will the latter, 500mg test only cycle, produce more gains? And if so, should I up my weekly test dosage to 400mg Test + 400mg Primo? Or should I give my original cycle a few more weeks to kick in?

By the way, how long till the effects of primo enth and test enth become very apparent?

4 weeks and 5 weeks. Around that time.

 

[WinnyPumps]

I would do this:
1-12 Test 400mg wk
1-12 Primo 500mg wk
8-13 Anavar 40-50mg ed
Dam I wanna do that cycle!

 

[SuperStrong]

Thanks good bros!

Bumped up dose to 300mg Test Enth + 500mg Primo / wk.

Wk 8-13 thinking of adding Anavar 40-50mg ED.. or pyramid up starting at 20mg wk8, 30mg wk9, etc. to 50mg.

 

[ALIN]

Just about finishing up week 2 (out of 12) on first cycle of: 200mg Test+400mg Primo per week (split up into Mon, Thurs inject)

I have my training down pat, eating lots of clean quality protein and carbs // Already have decent to low bf% levels. Goals is mass gain.

Not really noticing insane pump or hardness that I thought would come from primo (from respected UG lab so it's authentic).

Also have anavar enough for the whole 12 weeks but I thought that might be overkill to use the whole 12 weeks, so might just throw it in on week 11,12.

I haven't really noticed any sides on 200mg of Test per week, and Primo isn't really known for sides. And I'm only using a low dose ATD supplement as an anti-estrogen as well as natural supps. So maybe i'm not too prone to estrogen sides, or too soon to tell?

I was under the impression that adding Primo (especially at 400mg) would make Testosterone Enth effective at a low dose. So is 400 primo + 200 Test comparable to 500 Test E only cycle in terms of gains? Or will the latter, 500mg test only cycle, produce more gains? And if so, should I up my weekly test dosage to 400mg Test + 400mg Primo? Or should I give my original cycle a few more weeks to kick in?

By the way, how long till the effects of primo enth and test enth become very apparent?

I would add that ANAVAR you have and use it along side your cycle the whole time your on.

 

[SuperStrong]

I would add that ANAVAR you have and use it along side your cycle the whole time your on.

That's what I originally planned, but Nelson helped me out by informing me that the whole Anavar is "safe" might be kind of taking things a bit too lightly as mg for mg it is still 17aa. So running Anavar the whole 12 weeks might not be such a good idea, and Nelson also made a good point that I should be getting the brunt of my gains from the injects anyway rather than anavar.

Why do you recommend adding anavar the whole time would be good? Strength increase? I mean I can since I have a whole bunch of var but then decided to go the conservative route, maybe throw it in the last 2 weeks or last 6 weeks...will have plenty of var left over though.

SS

 

[WinnyPumps]

And you don't have to pyramid the Anavar. Just run it at 40-50 for 6-8 weeks.

 

[Nelson Montana]

And you don't have to pyramid the Anavar. Just run it at 40-50 for 6-8 weeks.

8 weeks of 50 mgs of var a day is pretty harsh bro.

Take POST CYCLE and Liv 52 for liver, plus policostonal, primrose oil, apple pectin and lots of Omega 3's for that spike in LDL.

 

[WinnyPumps]

8 weeks of 50 mgs of var a day is pretty harsh bro.

Take POST CYCLE and Liv 52 for liver, plus policostonal, primrose oil, apple pectin and lots of Omega 3's for that spike in LDL.

Yea you're right I just love Var! I just finished Var @ 40mg ed for 7 weeks and loved it. I took lipid stable, Omegas, flax, Liv 52 the whole time. Obviously my ldl probably elevated but hopefully will be back to normal in a month or two.
1-10 Test 400mg wk
6-12 Var 40mg ed