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Primobolan, is it worth it?
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enacer420nj
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I think you could see good results with EQ 6-800mg and be alot cheaper than primo
solidspine
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I love primo, have used it many times and will use it again.
YOu hear this all the time about primo, is it good , bad what's the deal?.....Blah blah blah! Ppl then go on to say that other compounds are cheaper and so on.......
Well, primo has no sides from my experinece. Sometimes you trade some gains for a clean fun cycle that does not over tax your body......You take primo and mix it with EQ and you can cruise on that for months if you want-it's fuck in awesome!
If you want to blow up take anadrol, test bro, primo is a milder anabolic good for cutting and dry gains!
Well, primo has no sides from my experinece. Sometimes you trade some gains for a clean fun cycle that does not over tax your body......You take primo and mix it with EQ and you can cruise on that for months if you want-it's fuck in awesome!
If you want to blow up take anadrol, test bro, primo is a milder anabolic good for cutting and dry gains!
Try it for yourself then judge it .
sparetire
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i ran 200mgs for 6 weeks in between cycles once and gained 10 pounds and held onto 8 pounds 
very little bloat, very little sides at all, if any. It's great stuff , and I only used it cuz i was given 3 bottles for free hehe. but if it wasn't for the cost factor, i'd say go for it but, if you are looking for mass then this isn't the place for you in the primo dept ..
very little bloat, very little sides at all, if any. It's great stuff , and I only used it cuz i was given 3 bottles for free hehe. but if it wasn't for the cost factor, i'd say go for it but, if you are looking for mass then this isn't the place for you in the primo dept ..
The most perfect steroid. Period.
holy ghost
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primo is flawless
Mavafanculo
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I was doing 300mg day oral when powder was available and it was great for cutting up and getting more vascular with 24/7 pumps
I added 600mg primo enan weekly about 3 weeks agao and not feeling much - maybe it hasnt fully kicked in yet
I added 600mg primo enan weekly about 3 weeks agao and not feeling much - maybe it hasnt fully kicked in yet
Inhibitor13
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Mavafanculo said:
what did you stack it with when you were cutting?
Mavafanculo
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Inhibitor13 said:
same as now - maintenece test plus eq/tren
Acela
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Mavafanculo said:
not to hijack, but out of curiosity...what do consider "maintenance" because that exact cycle is something that i was pondering for next time but i really didn't want test. i was hoping that there was an amount i could use simply to maintain libido and function with no bloat while my "real gains" came from the other compounds and of course, diet
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ShowKidd
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Acela said:
somewhere around 100-200 mg's a week should do it, if not adjust accordingly
enacer420nj
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sparetire said:i ran 200mgs for 6 weeks in between cycles once and gained 10 pounds and held onto 8 pounds
bro check your PM box
Neo22 said:
More anabolic. (Growth is dependant on nitrogen demand and intake, which is the only thing that grows long lasting muscle).
Less bloating.
Less supressive.
Does not aromatize and may even prevent estrogen build up from other steroids.
Less rise in blood pressue.
No mood swings.
No effect on libido.
Less effect on HPT, thus insuring a faster recovery.
What else do you want?
Of course, other drugs provide more "immediate gratification" but the results do not last. So what matters more?
HAIR LOSS AND "JUICE"
It used to be thought that having a full healthy head of hair and a muscular ripped body were contradictory, if not mutually exclusive propositions, after all if hair loss was related to DHT, and high male hormone levels, how could anyone maximize their own anabolic potential and not have to simultaneously deal with hair loss?? I am personally self absorbed and narcissistic enough to demand both, and have dedicated a great deal of time investigating just how I could have both. All I can tell you is that, after talking to literally hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders, and my own personal experience, it is possible, but you have to know what you're doing.
In this piece I will delve into what effects certain "anabolic agents" consistently have on scalp hair, so you won't inadvertently compromise your hair, or perhaps miss out on some beneficial anabolic agents for fear they will. It may seem to some like I'm advocating the use of certain steroids or stacks, and perhaps I am. I've been training for more then 20 years, and have rally been around the block in this business. I have never had a desire to compete, but have successfully (and unsuccessfully at times) used various "anabolic agents" to stay in top shape, and will continue to do so.
My commitment is simply to tell you in a straightforward, no B.S. way and which ones are safe to use. The medical and legal considerations and ramifications are obviously yours to deal with on an individual basis. As always, consult a "physician".
Deca Durabolin - I've never had a problem with my hair on this one, neither have hundreds of other guys I've talked to. The safety of this steroid, as far as hairloss is concerned, stems from the fact that 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, instead of converting it to a stronger androgen like DHT, converts it to a very mild androgen called DHN. Taken in dosages of up to 300-400 mg weekly it shouldn't produce any hairloss problems, this is due to the fact that, being a highly HPTA supressive androgen, 300-400 mg are no more androgenic than our endogenous testosterone (supressed while we are taking it) would be.. One BIG word of caution: While you are taken Deca Durabolin never ever take 5AR blockers such as Proscar/Propecia, for it would block the conversion of nandrolone to DHN in tissues such as the scalp and the prostate, resulting in hairloss and BPH, which is what we are trying to avoid taking Deca.
Testosterone cypionate, propionate, etc., androderm, sustanon 250: All of these are different testosterone preparations, they all have the same properties as far as hairloss is concerned: they convert to DHT via 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. That's the main reason why testosterone is so androgenic. However, if one takes testosterone along with a 5AR blocker such as Proscar it's not nearly that harmful for your hair. So, if you are concerned about hairloss and are taking testosterone, always use it along with Proscar. Take into account that DHT is an anti-estrogen and blocking it while your body has supraphysiological levels of testosterone might lead to gynecomastia, so it's advisable to combine Proscar with Arimidex (an aromatase inhibitor).
Anadrol\50 - If you value your hair, don't touch this one with a ten foot pole. Nothing seems to control its negative effects on hair. Not Proscar, Not Nizoral, nothing...
Dianabol -Same as Anadrol\50.
Primobolan - One of the less androgenic steroids. If you are concerned about hairloss this steroid is for you. It's much more anabolic than it is androgenic.
Oxandrolone (Anavar) - It's the safest steroid for your hair along with Primobolan and Deca.
Boldenone (Equipoise) - After the Primo, Anavar and Deca this is probably one of the safest for your hair. Although it undergoes 5-alpha-reduction, its affinity for this enzyme is minimal, so there is very little conversion. Moreover, its 5-alpha-reduced form is not as androgenic as DHT.
DHEA - Does not negatively affect hair in men. May help prevent hair loss by offsetting the binding of DHT to follicles. The product is a Disaster for women with hair loss. DHEA causes hair loss in women much like DHT in Men. DHEA discriminates against women.
Androstenedione - The worst of all prohormones in the market. It has a low conversion to testosterone, around 5%, which is damn too low. Worse yet is the fact that, before converting to testosterone, androstenedione directly interacts with aromatase and 5AR, thus converting to estrogen and DHT prior to conversion to target hormone.. You will be far better of using testosterone than this scum.
1-testosterone - A legal steroid, at least for the time being. It's very androgenic and very anabolic. Although it's a 5-alpha-reduced steroid it converts to DHT through an unknown pathway, so using Proscar along with it won't avoid DHT conversion. Its anabolic/androgenic ratio (~(1.5-2):1) is slightly higher than that of test (1:1). Be wary while using this product if you value your hair.
As time goes on, certainly cleaner, anabolic agents will be developed. The vast majority of users I talked to, have been on Prpecia/Proscar and Nizoral, myself included (amongst many other things).
Finally, take into account that you should also use topical spironolactone (2-5%) while juicing. This product directly antagonizes scalp ARs when used topically, hence it will be useful with any sort of steroid, even those that do not undergo 5-alpha-reduction.
Conclusion: The safety stack as far as hairloss is concerned would be a cycle consisting of Primobolan, Oxandrolone and Deca. Take into account that Deca, although being very mild for your hair, is not nearly as safe as oxandrolone and primobolan as far as HPTA supression and gynecomastia is concerned. If you want to play it completely safe when using steroid and avoid jeopardizing your health (and not only your hair) use cycles consisting of Oxandrolone and Primobolan.
It used to be thought that having a full healthy head of hair and a muscular ripped body were contradictory, if not mutually exclusive propositions, after all if hair loss was related to DHT, and high male hormone levels, how could anyone maximize their own anabolic potential and not have to simultaneously deal with hair loss?? I am personally self absorbed and narcissistic enough to demand both, and have dedicated a great deal of time investigating just how I could have both. All I can tell you is that, after talking to literally hundreds of athletes and bodybuilders, and my own personal experience, it is possible, but you have to know what you're doing.
In this piece I will delve into what effects certain "anabolic agents" consistently have on scalp hair, so you won't inadvertently compromise your hair, or perhaps miss out on some beneficial anabolic agents for fear they will. It may seem to some like I'm advocating the use of certain steroids or stacks, and perhaps I am. I've been training for more then 20 years, and have rally been around the block in this business. I have never had a desire to compete, but have successfully (and unsuccessfully at times) used various "anabolic agents" to stay in top shape, and will continue to do so.
My commitment is simply to tell you in a straightforward, no B.S. way and which ones are safe to use. The medical and legal considerations and ramifications are obviously yours to deal with on an individual basis. As always, consult a "physician".
Deca Durabolin - I've never had a problem with my hair on this one, neither have hundreds of other guys I've talked to. The safety of this steroid, as far as hairloss is concerned, stems from the fact that 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, instead of converting it to a stronger androgen like DHT, converts it to a very mild androgen called DHN. Taken in dosages of up to 300-400 mg weekly it shouldn't produce any hairloss problems, this is due to the fact that, being a highly HPTA supressive androgen, 300-400 mg are no more androgenic than our endogenous testosterone (supressed while we are taking it) would be.. One BIG word of caution: While you are taken Deca Durabolin never ever take 5AR blockers such as Proscar/Propecia, for it would block the conversion of nandrolone to DHN in tissues such as the scalp and the prostate, resulting in hairloss and BPH, which is what we are trying to avoid taking Deca.
Testosterone cypionate, propionate, etc., androderm, sustanon 250: All of these are different testosterone preparations, they all have the same properties as far as hairloss is concerned: they convert to DHT via 5-alpha-reductase enzyme. That's the main reason why testosterone is so androgenic. However, if one takes testosterone along with a 5AR blocker such as Proscar it's not nearly that harmful for your hair. So, if you are concerned about hairloss and are taking testosterone, always use it along with Proscar. Take into account that DHT is an anti-estrogen and blocking it while your body has supraphysiological levels of testosterone might lead to gynecomastia, so it's advisable to combine Proscar with Arimidex (an aromatase inhibitor).
Anadrol\50 - If you value your hair, don't touch this one with a ten foot pole. Nothing seems to control its negative effects on hair. Not Proscar, Not Nizoral, nothing...
Dianabol -Same as Anadrol\50.
Primobolan - One of the less androgenic steroids. If you are concerned about hairloss this steroid is for you. It's much more anabolic than it is androgenic.
Oxandrolone (Anavar) - It's the safest steroid for your hair along with Primobolan and Deca.
Boldenone (Equipoise) - After the Primo, Anavar and Deca this is probably one of the safest for your hair. Although it undergoes 5-alpha-reduction, its affinity for this enzyme is minimal, so there is very little conversion. Moreover, its 5-alpha-reduced form is not as androgenic as DHT.
DHEA - Does not negatively affect hair in men. May help prevent hair loss by offsetting the binding of DHT to follicles. The product is a Disaster for women with hair loss. DHEA causes hair loss in women much like DHT in Men. DHEA discriminates against women.
Androstenedione - The worst of all prohormones in the market. It has a low conversion to testosterone, around 5%, which is damn too low. Worse yet is the fact that, before converting to testosterone, androstenedione directly interacts with aromatase and 5AR, thus converting to estrogen and DHT prior to conversion to target hormone.. You will be far better of using testosterone than this scum.
1-testosterone - A legal steroid, at least for the time being. It's very androgenic and very anabolic. Although it's a 5-alpha-reduced steroid it converts to DHT through an unknown pathway, so using Proscar along with it won't avoid DHT conversion. Its anabolic/androgenic ratio (~(1.5-2):1) is slightly higher than that of test (1:1). Be wary while using this product if you value your hair.
As time goes on, certainly cleaner, anabolic agents will be developed. The vast majority of users I talked to, have been on Prpecia/Proscar and Nizoral, myself included (amongst many other things).
Finally, take into account that you should also use topical spironolactone (2-5%) while juicing. This product directly antagonizes scalp ARs when used topically, hence it will be useful with any sort of steroid, even those that do not undergo 5-alpha-reduction.
Conclusion: The safety stack as far as hairloss is concerned would be a cycle consisting of Primobolan, Oxandrolone and Deca. Take into account that Deca, although being very mild for your hair, is not nearly as safe as oxandrolone and primobolan as far as HPTA supression and gynecomastia is concerned. If you want to play it completely safe when using steroid and avoid jeopardizing your health (and not only your hair) use cycles consisting of Oxandrolone and Primobolan.
Mavafanculo
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Acela said:
I went by feel, but average about 300 mg sust weekly I felt good
lmm23
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Do you have to worry about cardiac side-effects with primobolan? I never know where I stand on that one with any of the steroids. I know it is a debated subject but are there any steroids that could be said to put strain on the heart?
Dianabol took my hair overnight, and I was only 19. Love it anyway.
Dianabol took my hair overnight, and I was only 19. Love it anyway.
chilisauce1
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Primo hurts like hell to inject! I ran it for 6 weeks at 600 mg per week. Didn't get much. Looked bigger and my traps looked good, but didn't gain much weight. Took it with Winny. No sides. If I ran it again I'd do more than 600 per week. Probably go up to a gram.
chilisauce1 said:
This is the biggest misunderstanding with Primmo. "Didn't gain much weight." True. But what's better? 5 pounds of muscle or 2 pounds of muscle and 10 pounds of water? Because that's the difference between Primmo and test.
Probably the one big advantage of strong aromatizing androgens like test or dboll is the increase in blood volume, which in turn increases size and strength. But you can get that naturally with creatine and VIGOR.
Primmo seems to be a little thicker than other gear and most UG labs version (if it's real) is thicker still. A 25 guadge will take you all day to inject.
Vascular Freak
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i love primo when dieting for its recovery abilitys and also the nitrogen retention affects that it has....no other gear leaves you with a pumped feeling 24/7 like primo does...however if your looking for size and strength look else where...use primo when you want to fine tune your look
chilisauce1
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What about Primo tabs? Anyone tried it. Would it be safe to take a gram a week of Primo in tab form?
