Primo cycle - need input

[joh]

just started my primo cycle, did first pin yesterday.

600mg per week.
it is UGL primo at 200mg/ml

the idea is - since primo is only mildly suppressive I'd run it alone for 6-7 weeks then when my hpta is suppressed add test prop 500mg/week , masteron 300mg/week and add tbol in the last 4 weeks. Test prop, mast prop and tbol So here is what it would look like

1-10 - primo 600mg/wk (with preload)
7-12 - test prop 500mg/wk
7-12 - mast prop 300mg/wk
8.5-12.5 - tbol - 40mg/day

12,5 and on - PCT - Unleashed/PostCycle/Forma (not listing everything I do for PCT just the staples)

so - start Primo alone, finish 2 weeks before PCT, but keep going with test prop, mast prop for 5 weeks. then finish my tbol 3 days after test/mast last shot.

theoretically - while this being a long 12 week cycle it is actually is very easy on HPTA as primo is mildly suppressive and I only blast HPTA for 5 weeks with test/mast/tbol and then go into PCT.

How does that sound? what do you guys think - if my logic flawed or not?

stats - 200 lb , 6.2, 40yo, 14%bf
done couple of short test cycles before.
ultimate goal in a few years - 220lb @ 10-11%bf

 

[acid151]

this is what i would run if i were you
600mg primo 1-12
500mg test if u have no major issues with bloat and gyno else 350mg with an a.i 1-12
tbol 40mg 1-4
masteron prop 500mg 6-12

primo at that dose will shut u down within 3 weeks. you will not have any natural test running if ur expecting it at week 7

 

[kc17]

I would start the test from the 1st week , primo will shut you down too, maybe go with test e as test pro requires at least eod injections and it's very painful least for me..Run hcg from week# 5

 

[stevesmi]

I still don't understand the logic of people thinking if they get shut down and then run test that magically test will un-shut them down. test will shut you down ITSELF!

you can just run primo alone, but run hcgenerate or hcg starting week 4 or 5. and you will be g2g. people are too scared to run compounds without test as a base. I do it all the time.

what i would do is run primo 100mg/day (yeah its a shitload of painful injections), don't pre-load, run a kickstart instead.
run dbol 20mg/day for the first 3 weeks, that serves as your kickstart.

run the proper ancillaries during cycle, and run a proper PCT. you won't get massive strength on this cycle but you will get some beautiful and keepable gains. and you will rebound from this cycle very quickly and have very little sides during.

 

[Draxgear]

Haha steve I was gonna run primo alone but I added just ever so slightly a bit of test cyp, just for good measure. 500mg primo/250mg test cyp. Lovvvvvvving the feel goodness. Runnin Hcgenerate all thru pct with Forma as well. Then unleashed, post cycle and hopin good to go for off cycle til summer

 

[joh]

thanks for your advice Stevesmi. You may not understood me right on some points though. I know that test will not un-shut me ... I was thinking of running primo alone until I get shut down and then add test. I was hoping to be shut down for as little as possible that way. If I run test from the start I will be shut down almost immediately. I am not scared to run cycles without test though I think test compliments primo and mast big time and I am all for maximizing and optimizing results.
HCGenerate and HCG are a given. Have nolva, adex, forma on hand but I doubt I will need.
will run N2Guard during and after. Maca, tribulus, LJ100, HGW etc - I got all that to support me after.

My primo is pretty painless. But with primo being enanth I dont see the point of pinning it every day.

If my logic is not correct and primo shuts me down within 3 weeks than I will have to go back to my original plan of running primo, test and mast for 12 weeks with tbol kickstart.

I think preloading is a good idea as the effort is the same but the results come fast.

 

[redneck77]

primo alone is great... I ran it 14 weeks in one cycle... kept all my gains an little sides
probably one of the safest IMO...I ran it 200mg EOD

 

[Nelson Montana]

I understand the theory but by the 3rd week you're going to start feeling a drop in sex drive. If you're not looking to get shut down hard, why not just include 300 mgs of T throughout and shorten the cycle to 8 weeks -- do everything else the same.

 

[gymjunkie09]

I understand the theory but by the 3rd week you're going to start feeling a drop in sex drive. If you're not looking to get shut down hard, why not just include 300 mgs of T throughout and shorten the cycle to 8 weeks -- do everything else the same.

This ^^^^ with hcgenerate throughout....run the mast prop 150mg eod, thats a pretty cycle

 

[Nelson Montana]

This ^^^^ with hcgenerate throughout....run the mast prop 150mg eod, thats a pretty cycle

And even though it's relatively light, N2GUARD too. PCT as usual.