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gymjunkie09
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Primo cycle - need input
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why would you get a drop in sex drive week 3? I ran tren 6 weeks with no test and my sex drive stayed the same. ran primo 12 weeks without test and my sex drive stayed the same. if you run hcg or hcgenerate with it your nuts stay plump.
when you run test it will blowup your sex drive, i dont deny that. what i do deny is that your sex drive drops running something without test. i think people think that cause they don't run cabaser with deca or tren and their prolactin goes out of control. and when they stack test with them without cabaser it covers up high prolactin, but it doesn't fix or un-shut you down.
thanks for your advice Stevesmi. You may not understood me right on some points though. I know that test will not un-shut me... I was thinking of running primo alone until I get shut down and then add test. I was hoping to be shut down for as little as possible that way.
i'm not trying to be a smartass at all and use some techniqual bs here, i'm just saying that the myth that you lose libido without test is false. your libido does go sky high ON TEST. so if you want the sex drive then go ahead and stack every cycle with test as a base. a newb should stack test the first few times too to cover up newb mistakes like not running cabaser or not running hcg on cycle.
however anyone who knows how to run the proper ancillaries and cycles smartly will have zero problem running any AAS without test. try it yourself. your sex drive will stay the same, it won't drop off unless you run tren or deca with no caber or let your nuts shrink to raisins.
I always used to run test as a base, one day i said screw it on the recommendation of some guys on here and ran something without test and it was great not having to pin myself so much! since then i've run primo, tren, orals, masteron without test.
try it yourself and come back and let the board know old Steve was right
Well, ya lucky, what can I tell you. By week 3, test levels will be lower -- that's a fact -- and most people will feel a drop in sex drive.
I don't understand why that would be the case. plenty of guys run beastdrol or dbol for 4 weeks and don't experience any drop in sex drive.
I am gonna run var or tren next cycle without test and I will be doing blood tests after week 3, and week 6.. along with hcg and hcgenerate together, and I want to see for myself. I will be the guinea pig.
again I am not argueing that test will boost your sex drive, it definately will.. I am argueing that you would have a drop in sex drive without test when you run the proper ancillaries.
also i would like to see test levels..
do you think if you run a compound without test that the increase in anabolism and androgens in the body will cause a drop in test levels? if yes then why is it that injecting yourself with test will raise test levels ? is test not suppressive as well? of course it is, this is what I could never figure out.
I am very curious to see this answer when i do bloods and do this experiment ... we've had threads debating this on here before but no one seems to know a definitive answer.
I'm not sure what you're getting at. Are you saying that 3 weeks of primo wlll not cause any suppression? Well, you know that's not true. You're saying that a drop in test can;t cause a loss of libido? Now when you say "proper anciliaries like UNLEASHED and HCGen will help, well, of course they will. That's what they're designed to do.
in bold. confusing question i know... this is why i want to be a guinea pig and find this answer out for myself
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The reason for running test with other compounds is not to un-shut-you-down (solid word), but for you to supplement your body's natural test (that it's not producing anymore) with test you inject. Steroids besides testosterone will not fulfill all the roles and functions in the body that testosterone does. By not running test along side other compounds you're robbing yourself of some of the benefits and necessary roles that it serves in your body.
yes this is what I believed too. but I am saying since all AAS is derived from test. if you were to run AAS your body would be anabolic and androgenic. and it will supplement your bodies testosterone as you put it that way.
essentially you are saying if i run primo then my test levels will be <100 by week 5. I am saying that isn't the case (if it is true then you are still getting supplemented during this time anyway right?) your test levels will drop once the esters leave the body cause your own body isn't producing test anymore, and also the AAS is not in there to 'supplement' as you put it. assuming you run a bad pct or no pct this is the time your libido drops and you feel shutdown, not during cycle. I will be running bloods in the next year to see for myself.
i just don't see how its plausible to run tren alone and gain strength and size and you are advocating your test levels are less than 100. if what you are saying was 100% true then the only AAS that would ever need to be run is testosterone, might as well trash everything else.
the only reason i started thinking this is i've had just as good results running compounds alone, then stacking with test. actually i probably had BETTER results with lone compounds cause test gave me unwanted sides. I just need to know if what you and Nelson are saying is 100% right with my own blood work, just out of curiousity.
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