Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below im on the medication prednisone for a health problem and i have gained 11 lbs in 12 days!...my hunger is ridiculous and for the first time ever i have a spare tire and am bloated bad...im trying to get diet back in check, but my stomach is so BLOATED it looks like a bad case of gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - /insulin gut...anyone have probs with this drug?...obviously if i was trying to bulk up it would be alright i guess, but this is getting out of control...it sucks
Prednisone...HOLY SHIT!
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http://www.webmd.com/drugs/mono-9383-PREDNISONE+-+ORAL.aspx?drugid=6007&drugname=Prednisone+Oral
cortisone steroid, not the kind we like
cortisone steroid, not the kind we like
Selfcentor
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Ive been on that drug off an on since i was 11. Now im 23. It sucks balls. I switched to self medicating with equipose as it has the same effects on me minus some of the negative side effects. Prednisone is catabolic so make sure you take glutamine and try to get off it as soon as possible. You on it for asthma or crohns or what?
My brother has some of that stuff, but its for his dog. She has cancer.
holy ghost
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i took methylpredisolone and put on about 4-8 pounds when I tore my elbows lol fuckin things
holy ghost said:
If you didn't have twigs for arms that wouldn't have happened.
teehee
Selfcentor
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PuddleMonkey said:
HAHA
no, actually i have a serious inflamation of my optic nerve in my eye...i have seen many docs over the last few weeks and they call me the mystery man because i have had several tests for all types of things and they cant seem to put a finger on the root of the problem...my vision is affected and i have some blind spots, so for now going off the prednisone is not an option becasue i am going to a very well respected eye hospital so i feel like i should follow the docs orders for now to see if we can get the swelling down from the optic nerve...Selfcentor said:
yes, pretty bad too, it really sucks!...i was 6' 205 around 10-11% bf before i started it and 12 days later im 216 and i look ALOT worse...i never really had to diet strictly or do a lot of cardio to stay luckily, but now i have had to tighten up the diet and hit the cardio harder just to keep from blowing up....i know it could be worse but im just not used to this lookceo said:
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2horns said:
thats stuff is nasty...i avoid it if i can
Mavafanculo
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prednisone is catabolic. he opposite of anabolic. makes you weak, it eats muscle and increases fat deposition especially around the spare tire and center belly.
the weight is only water weight.
the weight is only water weight.
holy ghost
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PuddleMonkey said:
lol LT. Worf
Selfcentor
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Mavafanculo said:
Exatctly what i said. You should def take some glutamine to help prevent the break down of muscle. how high are you on it now?
Mavafanculo
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Selfcentor said:
glutamine is anti-catabolic, but I dont think it would be as useful here (at least not directly) because Glutamine helps prevent your body from releasing cortisol. In this case, the prednisone basically IS exogenous cortisol (cortisone). But glut wouold help prevent additional release so it cant hurt. and it has immune enhancing effects.
better would be compounds that protect muscle tissue from the effects of elevated cortisol - obviously a.a.s. but you would absolutely need to discuss that with your doctor to be sure it wouldnt negatively impact whatever the condition he's treating is.
Like glutamine, alll the other supps that traditionally are suggested to reduce catabolism work upstream to trick the body into releasing less cortisol, so wouldnt really help your case (hmb, bcaa's, phosphatidyl serine, hi-dose vitamin C etc)
nzrodney
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Jon Mate, I can understand where you are coming from It has a remarkable cure rate in many areas but I know people who have nearly died on this stuff after long term use of a few years. It wastes the body away & can cause serious infections which are impossible to treat. Beware, buddy.
Selfcentor
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Jon79 said:
That means you were on it for a short time i bet not long term like this guy or me when i was younger...Short term has no sides.
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Mavafanculo said:
I took pro hormons when i was on them and gained about 5 to 10 pounds of muscle. So taking steroids isent bad, but like you said about teh glutamine steroids also suppress corticosteroids after you lift hard. So once again counter acting but it worked for me and i still think gluatamine cant hurt.
holy ghost
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what prohormones??
Selfcentor
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holy ghost said:
ganabolin....1,4androstadienedione
c3bodybuilding
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90 ms contin 30mg pills (time released morphine) and over 250 roxy 15's a month and still no pain relief for a *very* messed up leg (that ended up needing surgery) and lower back I had gotten from a wicked car accident. Finally got some pred and it was better than all those heavy duty narcotics!
Since I can get Deca in Greece easily without legal issues, I just use that now. Lubes up the joints nice and good.
But if pred is all you can get and it adds to your quality of life, forget how it makes you look, I'd rather be able to live pain free/without health problems than look like a model! The most I'd ever run it is 5 days though every few months. Of course use as your Dr. prescribes.
Since I can get Deca in Greece easily without legal issues, I just use that now. Lubes up the joints nice and good.
But if pred is all you can get and it adds to your quality of life, forget how it makes you look, I'd rather be able to live pain free/without health problems than look like a model! The most I'd ever run it is 5 days though every few months. Of course use as your Dr. prescribes.
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2horns said:
All water. Catabolic. Ever see Jerry Lewis when he was taking it.
Mavafanculo
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Selfcentor said:
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the reason Glutamine isnt directly useful in the case of someone taking prednisone is that Glutamine reduces the amount of cortisol the body will release in response to stress. Prednisone IS cortisol. Its like giving someone an anti-aromatase and then giving him estrogen. the anti-a is irrelevent to the administered estrogen.
the reason anabolic steroids WOULD be effective with someone taking prednisone is because they block the cortisol receptors in muscle tissue and prevent breakdown. anabolic steroids dont suppress the release of cortisol after a workout, they just block the effects of released cortisol. to continue the analogy above it would be like giving Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - to someone and then dosing them with estrogen. blocks the receptors and the effects.
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Prohormones have worked great for me. I've done M1-T and Andro...they helped. Offcourse, no were near as good as 10% of the results i got from Susta or Decca...but every bit helps....I did hear that the sides of prohormones are worse than those of steroids, especially on the liver...
I think Taurine is bad for you if you take too much of it. Not sure why, but I remember reading that somewhere.
I think Taurine is bad for you if you take too much of it. Not sure why, but I remember reading that somewhere.
Prednisone's catabolic nature is only a single mild to moderate side effect of many, many more horrible ones that can often come with long-term use. So yes, lots of people do have problems with the drug.
When you say you are seeing doctors, I hope you mean specialists. Taking a trip to a place like the Mayo Clinic might be of benefit, also.
Most importantly, never listen to anyone on the internet over your doctor. They're the professionals, not anonymous internet users.
When you say you are seeing doctors, I hope you mean specialists. Taking a trip to a place like the Mayo Clinic might be of benefit, also.
Most importantly, never listen to anyone on the internet over your doctor. They're the professionals, not anonymous internet users.
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Mavafanculo said:
ohh details...blahh haha
Mavafanculo
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Selfcentor said:
lol
yes, im going to Wills Eye Medical Center in Philly...very well known and respected...my neuro-opthamalogist is the one who put me on the predsamoth said:Prednisone's catabolic nature is only a single mild to moderate side effect of many, many more horrible ones that can often come with long-term use. So yes, lots of people do have problems with the drug.
When you say you are seeing doctors, I hope you mean specialists. Taking a trip to a place like the Mayo Clinic might be of benefit, also.
Most importantly, never listen to anyone on the internet over your doctor. They're the professionals, not anonymous internet users.
Selfcentor
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Overall man just hang in there and it will be over soon enough. Hopefully this will be a one time thing. Keep working hard in teh gym and if you use steroids while on it more power to you!
Mavafanculo
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2horns said:
keep your protein intake up, dont work too hard in the gym (counterintuitive as that mite seem), munch on BCAA's during the day between meals, and look into Cissus supplements which suppossedly block cortisol receptors like a.a.s. would (thats new product hype so take it with a grain of salt and do the due dilligence! )
good luck!
holy ghost
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but isnt cissius great for tendon/lig reparation?? whats its purpose specifically?
Mavafanculo
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thats mentioned but doesnt seem as solid as the cortisol antagonist claims
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1612
http://www.breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1612
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