Pre-contest Advice

[LSUMuscle]

I've got around 8 weeks until my competition. I need all the advice that I can get. Here are my stats:
-5'9"
-197lbs
-<9%bf
-100carbs/day, 350-425 prot./day, and 50-60fat/day
-1 hour cardio in A.M. on empty stomach and 35 min. after workout midday
-just began winstrol (50mg eod) and testoviron (250/wk)

Any advice in any of these areas would be greatly appreciated. I've put in a lot of hard work and don't want to have to back out of the show because I'm not ready. Thanks

 

[Mr Kryptonite]

You realize that your bodyfat is pretty high for a competition in just 8 weeks. I mean I'm sure you can get it down, but you haven't left yourself much time to spare! I personally would check into a little more of a cutting cycle than what you just started. The Winny should do you well in that department, but I would at least add some clen, ECA, or something like that. GOOD LUCK!!!

 

[Weam]

Eat 7-8meals per day and this is very important to improve your metabolism and decrease your body fat

neglect all fats whether satured or unsatured fats, increase the carbs to 200 or even 300 to give you a great pump

Do not decrease Carbohydrates as some here would say because your brain uses only carbohydrates (not fat) as a source of energy, and your body will protect the brain at all costs. During a diet when blood sugar levels can be very low, the body will release the hormone cotrisol. Cortisol is a catabolic hormone that converts muscle proteins to carbohydrates to feed the brain. This leads to the loss of muscle mass often seen with pre-contest diets. But don't despair. The answer is a logical, conservative approach to dieting, along with accurate daily data collection.

 

[anabolic24/7]

LSUmuscle

Click on the AF link below. There is a "Competitors Corner" board there. You can get alot of help from guys there that compete. They know their stuff.

 

[Weam]

http://www.gettinglean.com/precontest.htm
This web-site is very helpful just read it very carefully and tell me
many Pro. guys send their articles as well

Good luck

 

[LSUMuscle]

I realize that my bf is still high to be so close. That's why I'm writing this. I don't want to give up right before the show. I've been working hard, but I've received so much different advice that I'm getting confused.
1) What's the deal with low carbs v. high carbs?

2) How about fat intake?

3) Should I up my cardio even more? How much is too much?

4) With testoviron and winny, what else would someone recommend throwing in now? (I'm also alternating hydroxycut and xenadrine, just finished t3)

 

[anabolic24/7]

I would add fina and dnp.
Weams answer may work fine for him but eveyone is different. I cycle carbs,400,250,250,125,125,75,75,400, ect.... Cutting fat's to the bone. Diet is a very individual thing, what works best takes years to figure out. You have no choice, with the time you have left, other than to increase cardio. Don't cut calories too much or you'll slow the metabolism and alot of the weight loss will be muscle. Good luck.

 

[dude8840]

LSUmuscle,
I qualified for national-level competition in '98, but due to things outside of my control, I could not follow through with my plans. Until recently, where I re-entered bb'ing. I have also trained 4 other guys for shows with good success. With that being said to cover my credentials, here are my opinions.

Yes it is perhaps to soon to enter, however, if your mind is made up, there is probably little that can be done to change your mind, so all that we can do, is offer as much advice as possible. Here goes.

I prefer cyclic-ketogenic type diets over high carb diets anyday. Ketones are muscle spariing, and normally as much cardio isn't needed. I do not agree with the "carbohydrates only for energy sources" idea. I have used these for every show, as has my clients, and we have had exceptional success. When the body enters ketosis, ketones are burnt for fuel. If you cannot operate well on zero carbs, take in 30grams carbs per day, plus postworkout drink on workout days.

Either way, never, ever, avoid all fats!

The protein that you have listed is much too high. Many people will have you believe that protein doesn't get converted to fat, and they are wrong. It is called glucogenesis.

With eight weeks to go, it can be done. Email me if you need more specific information. Good Luck.

 

[Weam]

To tell you the truth , everybody use various and different way to compete

some use the carb depletion diet (very low carbs,fats and high protein)
some would carb up (high carbs, low fats, high protein)

other would use the anabolic diet (very low carbs, high fats, high Protein)

or even some would use the ransom die (moderate carbs, moderate fats, high protein)

Gunter Schlierkamp IFBB who ate nothing except two pieces of turkey and water (1meal per day)


try them all, you're not going to die after this contest, try this way : carb deplete (absolutely no carbs) for 4-7days then carb up with 300-400grams of carbs for 3days , day 3 should be the competition day, this works like hell
if you didn't success with it then try the Anabolic Diet if no then try another and so on, vary everything and find what works better for you

 

[dude8840]

Very true weam, I forgot to the fact that there are a 100 different routes from point a to point b, and the best one is the one that you can stick with.

 

[Weam]

Exactly, same as workout routines
some works for you but might not work for me

please LSUmuscle check out this web-page gettinglean.com/precontest.htm many pro. guys shows their way on pre-contests

 

[LSUMuscle]

I've checked out the "gettting lean" website. That had a lot of good info, thanks.

Now, I'm at 8.5% 197-199lbs. I've got 8 weeks from this past Saturday until the show. I know that I've got some hard work ahead of me, and have been thinking of what else I could do to get ripped. Well, I've taken clen before and it just made me feel like shit. I am thinking of giving it another shot though. I'm also considering DNP, BUT I don't know a whole lot about it as I've mainly done stuff to bulk up in the past. I've heard that it's rough on you, but works great. I'd just like some opinions on DNP and since I've got 8 weeks left, well, by the time I could get some, about 6 weeks probably, so how to take it.

thanks

 

[LSUMuscle]

Here's an update guys, along with a new question. I've got 3 weeks to go. I'm coming along pretty good I believe. I'm now concerned with workouts. I'm gonna continue to keep the cardio up, an hour in the a.m. on empty stomach and 30 minutes later in the day. At what point should I stop cardio? Also, what type of weight training should I be doing (heavy, moderate, light)?

 

[td24]

Two weeks out you should do light workout(just enough to get a light pump) and also do cardio twice a day. Stop workouts the monday before the show and stop cardio the wednesday before. Email me if you have any questions.

 

[rich197]

if I were you I would start a 8 day cycle of DNP ASAP and stay on current AS cycle then after the DNP up the winny to 50-100mg ED and do clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. twice and you should be f*cking cut by the time your comp is. as for diet I would have to a agree with dropping the fat and keeping carbs I personally go fucking crazy on NO carb diets and then everythign goes to shit no pumps and no energy to do cardio.

 

[td24]

This is just me. I cycled my carbs. Some days I wouldnt eat any carbs and others I would eat 150-200 grams. On the extremly low carb days I would take in some good EFA's to keep my fats high. Where one is high the other is low. But always keep the protein HIGH!

 

[BIGEDD]

Well if you have the money it would be a good idea to get some hgh as well as some thyroid AS's to help burn the last bits of fat. Remember 3 days before the contest you should start to carb up to 150% of what you are eating now.
Keep us posted on your results.

 

[serge]

ketogenic diets work for me3

http://www.voicenet.com/~petrizzi/fitness/ckdcalc.html

 

[Yellowbomber]

carg cycling always has worked miracles for me

 

[LSUMuscle]

When you all say "carb-cycling" what do you mean? There are many variations, so give me your views on how many carbs, how many days, etc... Also, calories, what do you think about calories?