prami sides............

[die faster]

doing an anti gyno run and the sides from the prami are really bad. started at .5 ed.. ive heard the sides can get pretty bad but i cant find the threads i read about them in.

so prami users when did the sides start to subside for you? or did you have to deal with them the whole time?

basically its keeping me up at night, i sleep for about an hour at a time but i go right back to sleep. then getting out of bed is a miserable feeling. when i wake up, my eyes feel like im about to get pink eye. nose is extremely stuffy like i have to flu or some shit. starting to get nose bleeds. this all lasts for about 12 hours from the time i take it.

ill try lowering the dose. its not really about how im feeling so much. ill go through anything to get rid of my gyno. but it almost seems a bit dangerous.

also running letro at 2.5 and cialis at .7 a day. but ive ran these both before with no issues at all. however the letro was tabs and not liquid but i would assume it wouldnt make a difference?

 

[mr.enthate]

I was thinking of running my anti gyno run soon same dose as you with metro and prami minus the cialis this freaks me out though hope someone can comment on this

 

[gatemoney]

Basically never...i even tried .25 ml every 3rd day.
Taking it in the am or pm,
With food or without it didn't matter.
That shit would make me sick as fuck for 12-18 hours EVERY TIME I TOOK IT.
As soon as i would start to feel a lil better it would be time for my next dose.
I stopped after less then 2 weeks,just couldn't take it.

 

[die faster]

yeah dude this morning i had to keep the garbage by my bed cause i was dizzy and felt like almost throwing up. in the night i keep waking up to go to the bathroom and wake up really dehydrated. probably drinking half a gallon of water throughout the night.

ill go through the sides if i have to. comparing the sides to getting rid of gyno its not even a question.

 

[joeblow12345]

Why are all of you continuing to take it if it is messing you up? I run caber and have.no issues at all. Im taking it now along side my tren cycle, and I barely get any night sweats from the tren and I fall asleep like a baby. Im only using .25 Mg every 3 rd day. My advice is give caber a try, It cant be any worse.

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[die faster]

ive used caber in the past and have a little on hand but its been expired for a couple years. and getting caber isnt exactly as easy as buying prami.. plus already have my prami and already started this run and dont feel like waiting 2 months for caber to arrive.. also thought the sides were temporary as you get used to it

 

[SouthernLord]

Prami turned me into a zombie. Fuck that shit.

 

[drewmaci]

The first time I tried .25 prami before bed I needed to call into work the next day I felt so sick. Now I go 2 small doses everyday and it seems to work just fine.

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[muscleaddiction]

I am currently on 1.25mg Letro and .25 Prami, have been as high as .5, but no terrible sides like being mentioned here...where did you get it from...CN???

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[kc17]

Take it before going to bed and 2 to 3 x a week should be enough, I'm currently on Caber on Tren cycle and it gets me a little depressed !! But better that than high prolactin and low libido ..

 

[die faster]

yup got it from chemical need. im not just taking enough to prevent prolactin sides here. im trying to eliminate my gyno ive had for years. the dose im at now is i guess tolerable so ill stick with it and see how it goes. CK said he used 1ml every day and we have the same gyno situation.

also forgot to mention the insane heartburn i got in the gym when i took my pre workout. somehow coupled with the prami, my preworkout (animal) had me walking to the garbage a couple times feeling like i was about to throw up straight acid. gonna have to stop taking that.

 

[muscleaddiction]

yup got it from chemical need. im not just taking enough to prevent prolactin sides here. im trying to eliminate my gyno ive had for years. the dose im at now is i guess tolerable so ill stick with it and see how it goes. CK said he used 1ml every day and we have the same gyno situation.

also forgot to mention the insane heartburn i got in the gym when i took my pre workout. somehow coupled with the prami, my preworkout (animal) had me walking to the garbage a couple times feeling like i was about to throw up straight acid. gonna have to stop taking that.

I am on needto's program now, that is the dose he has me at moment, my gyno at times makes me want to grab a steak knife and cut it out, just kills me. My stupidity in the past, now willing to do anything to get rid of it...yeah, even if I had or may get bad sides, I will tolerate anything to get rid of it. How long have you been on? I keep in mind that it will take some time to get rid of shit that been there for years

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[die faster]

I am on needto's program now, that is the dose he has me at moment, my gyno at times makes me want to grab a steak knife and cut it out, just kills me. My stupidity in the past, now willing to do anything to get rid of it...yeah, even if I had or may get bad sides, I will tolerate anything to get rid of it. How long have you been on? I keep in mind that it will take some time to get rid of shit that been there for years

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i feel the exact same way man. between running too low doses of caber and letro in the past when i didnt know what i was doing, to getting sold bunk letro from an ex sponsor and ruining the whole attempt, countless formastane attempts thinking it was the next big thing in gyno removal.. to then saying fuck it and dealing with it for a couple years. i finally have everything together and ill deal with the sides even if when i bump it up to 1mg every day i feel like an absolute piece of shit.

ive only been on for about 4 days. first night i took .6 prami (started with .25 but it didnt have the medicine like taste to it so i tried more to see if it was real by seeing if i got sides..), 2.5 letro and .7 cialis. the second night i didnt take any. and now for the past 3 ive been taking it every night. tomorrow im gonna start taking an additional 2.5 letro in the morning so 5 total and ill see about working up the prami dose from there. i decided im not gonna lower it at all. cialis btw is already kicking in (taking it to prevent the usual letro/ libido problems), unless its the prami messing with me. usually it takes about a week of using it before i feel it but im already getting random boners

 

[muscleaddiction]

I am using HCGenerate for the libido sides, and all I say is what sides? Using Forma Stanzol as well, and to make sure wife is happy, pop a couple Unleashed. I truly have not really felt sides except for a couple of times my nipples started burning in the middle of the day, so Forma took care of it immediately, as I take Letro and Prami at bedtime. Mine are more like discs, not lumps, but seem to be getting softer, I have been on for a few weeks now, I feel like bumping it up to see, but not unless he tells me to...so were just cruising at this dose. Sometimes I dream of finding an surgeon to do a pro bono surgery lol! We are in the same boat...I could be worse

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[insanityapproved]

I am taking mirapex retard 0,26mg (extended release prami) .. zero sides except for some minor euphoria, increased libido, need less sleep, more energy, tren sides are non-existent etc. Wonderful stuff, I'll never get off

 

[muscleaddiction]

I am taking mirapex retard 0,26mg (extended release prami) .. zero sides except for some minor euphoria, increased libido, need less sleep, more energy, tren sides are non-existent etc. Wonderful stuff, I'll never get off

Um, that sounds fucking awesome! Wish I could ask

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[insanityapproved]

lol
most people won't be able to get that stuff without a prescription.
But i'm not most people lmao

 

[gatemoney]

Why are all of you continuing to take it if it is messing you up? I run caber and have.no issues at all. Im taking it now along side my tren cycle, and I barely get any night sweats from the tren and I fall asleep like a baby. Im only using .25 Mg every 3 rd day. My advice is give caber a try, It cant be any worse.

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Good to here cuz caber was my next move. I'll never touch prami again!
Btw i stopped the entire cycle over those sides. Im not one to sit and suffer.
If my body is telling me something..
I listen!

 

[johnsonx19]

So damn after hearing all this i am looking hesitantly at my prami. So anybody have anything good to say about prami? I thought it was supposed to help your mood and sleep. My main concern is has it done anything to reduce your gyno?

 

[die faster]

So damn after hearing all this i am looking hesitantly at my prami. So anybody have anything good to say about prami? I thought it was supposed to help your mood and sleep. My main concern is has it done anything to reduce your gyno?

its only been about 5 days or so. raised letro to 5mg a day today. took .6 prami last night and this morning jumped out of my bed still dreaming and half asleep till i finally realized wtf i was doing. im probably gonna end up sleep driving on this shit.

 

[ALIN]

doing an anti gyno run and the sides from the prami are really bad. started at .5 ed.. ive heard the sides can get pretty bad but i cant find the threads i read about them in.

so prami users when did the sides start to subside for you? or did you have to deal with them the whole time?

basically its keeping me up at night, i sleep for about an hour at a time but i go right back to sleep. then getting out of bed is a miserable feeling. when i wake up, my eyes feel like im about to get pink eye. nose is extremely stuffy like i have to flu or some shit. starting to get nose bleeds. this all lasts for about 12 hours from the time i take it.

ill try lowering the dose. its not really about how im feeling so much. ill go through anything to get rid of my gyno. but it almost seems a bit dangerous.

also running letro at 2.5 and cialis at .7 a day. but ive ran these both before with no issues at all. however the letro was tabs and not liquid but i would assume it wouldnt make a difference?

My best advice for those using PRAMI is too start VERY low dose and then work up to a tolerable level.

 

[insanityapproved]

My best advice for those using PRAMI is too start VERY low dose and then work up to a tolerable level.

this

most people don't realise how strong prami is for lowering prolactin.
I once took 0.2mg before bed and went to measure my prolactin right next morning. Typically it would be around 4-6, but after prami it was about 0.2 (below the reference range) ! So even 0.1mg should be enough to do its job.

 

[die faster]

this

most people don't realise how strong prami is for lowering prolactin.
I once took 0.2mg before bed and went to measure my prolactin right next morning. Typically it would be around 4-6, but after prami it was about 0.2 (below the reference range) ! So even 0.1mg should be enough to do its job.

im wondering what level you would need to starve gyno though. like ck said in his gyno thread, with letro though, even though 2.5 should eliminate 98%, adding the extra 2.5 did the job. i noticed no difference with 2.5 either. with prami i dont really have much experience, i just want this shit gone... its kinda funny when you think about it we're all pioneers in this sport doing our own thing. theres not many set in stone medical studies on half the shit were doing.

an update though. took .7 prami last night (raised from .5 or .6) but i took it about 2 hours before going to sleep and the sides were drastically lessened. idk if it was the timing or im getting used to it.

 

[johnsonx19]

im wondering what level you would need to starve gyno though. like ck said in his gyno thread, with letro though, even though 2.5 should eliminate 98%, adding the extra 2.5 did the job. i noticed no difference with 2.5 either. with prami i dont really have much experience, i just want this shit gone... its kinda funny when you think about it we're all pioneers in this sport doing our own thing. theres not many set in stone medical studies on half the shit were doing.

an update though. took .7 prami last night (raised from .5 or .6) but i took it about 2 hours before going to sleep and the sides were drastically lessened. idk if it was the timing or im getting used to it.

Yea were all playing self doctor whatever works, surgery is a last resort in my book. So i assume 1mg equals 1ml? What are u going to eventually ramp up to with prami?

 

[Potent]

Prami may not be for everyone, I've tried to start it multiple multiple times at doses as low as .25 b4 bed, and I still was sick as a dog the next day. Going to try caber as it seems to be the best alternative .

 

[rambleJ535]

yeah dude this morning i had to keep the garbage by my bed cause i was dizzy and felt like almost throwing up. in the night i keep waking up to go to the bathroom and wake up really dehydrated. probably drinking half a gallon of water throughout the night.

ill go through the sides if i have to. comparing the sides to getting rid of gyno its not even a question.

These are the same sides that I had. Never running prami again, it felt like a terribly bad flu.

 

[die faster]

Yea were all playing self doctor whatever works, surgery is a last resort in my book. So i assume 1mg equals 1ml? What are u going to eventually ramp up to with prami?

yup 1ml is 1mg. im going to raise it up to 1mg a night a little at a time within the next week or so.

the sides are going away. took .7 last night and just a stuffy nose and peeing alot. no sick feeling at all. some heartburn today but not serious.

on a side note. gaining any mass whatsoever seems impossible with my estrogen basically at zero. but im doing my best to maintain and havent lost anything yet. pumps in the gym are very dry, crazy vascularity all over, but can still touch my thumb to my shoulder after hitting biceps which is impossible any other time. strength however is not a problem at all.