potential virgin user with some heavy ammo

[hyp1]

What about my Nolvadex for PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ? Isn't that supposed to block estrogen while simultaneously bringing test levels back up? I have read several places that this is a very effective post-cycle remedy for anadrol.


I know you will hyp1, and if what all of you have said turns out to be true then I'll deserve every bit of it. I am going to take some before and after shots as well as some more pics 2-3 months later.

Let me ask one other question. Do you feel that I would have better (I know that you think both cycles are shit) results if I just took the Winstrol for now?

nolvadex for post cycle therapy would work but you need to use HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - taken @500iu's for 10 days straight,in combination with 25mgs of nolvadex for 30 days straight,the day after you take your last dose of anadrol.saying that makes me cringe like a mothefucker,because in my mind anadrol is an outdated compound there are much,much better compounds you can run that you can actually retain most of the gains.doing both of the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and nolvadex will kickstart your body into producing testosterone once again if you haven't fucked your system up severely.truth be told you're going to be overloaded with estrogen.I recommend running an anti estrogen the full time you run the anadrol to keep the water retention down,like arimidex starting @ 0.5 to 1 mg is enough

a winstrol only cycle isn't going to get you fucking anything for results and would be a total waste of money imo.if anything WAIT until you can get some injectable testosterone(which btw is seriously fucking easy)and then do a proper cycle that won't be so hard on your liver with a proper post cycle therapy you will thank yourself for it bro

 

[tampatraps]

First off, I most certainly appreciate all of the feedback. While I've done a good bit of research, this is something that I still wanted to accrue as much expert input as possible before getting started.

Let me pose a hypothetical situation. Let's say that despite all of the great advice here that I went ahead and administered the following cycles:

CYCLE 1
Week 1: Anadrol (50mg/day)
Week 2: Anadrol (50mg/day)
Week 3: Anadrol (100mg/day)
Week 4: Anadrol (50mg/day)
Week 5: Anadrol (50mg/day)
PCT - post cycle therapy - : Nolvadex (20mg/day for 30 days)

CYCLE 2
Winstrol (50mg/day) for 5 weeks

If I went ahead with this, what is reealistically the end result for me? Is hypl's prediction pretty much on par according to the rest of you? Bear in my mind that I most definitely know what I'm doing in the weight room and in terms of nutrition.

Thanks again!

Your gains will be inpressive but without test following the A-50's you will loose most all what you gain sence it was mostly blood weight. Sound like you don't want to take injections the easyest on the body, if you follow thru with your plan you need test and the winny to end with.

Tampatraps

 

[timtim]

Your gains will be inpressive but without test following the A-50's you will loose most all what you gain sence it was mostly blood weight. Sound like you don't want to take injections the easyest on the body, if you follow thru with your plan you need test and the Winstrol - stanozolol to end with.

Tampatraps

his gains will be impressive? water and pimples are impressive?

anadrol alone will make him look gross. ive seen it many times.

 

[hyp1]

his gains will be impressive? water and pimples are impressive?

anadrol alone will make him look gross. ive seen it many times.

I fucking entirely agree with this post

extreme water retention,bacne and a bad case of a pizza face isn't what I call attractive or impressive at all............then when he comes off of the cycle he's going to resemble a goddamned california raisin all shriveled up and that's extremely depressed and suicidal from losing his explosive weight gain,size and strength.

 

[tampatraps]

his gains will be impressive? water and pimples are impressive?

anadrol alone will make him look gross. ive seen it many times.

Ok guy's if you are 13 mayby but if you read the original post he is 31, I guess that sence i have only been "ON" strait with a couple of bridges for 16 years, everyone here that has used for 6 months knows everything, we are talking about someones first cycle if he is going to use this anyway tell him what to expect. I will back down I am only here to tell the truth!!!!!!!!

Tampatraps

 

[tampatraps]

I fucking entirely agree with this post

extreme water retention,bacne and a bad case of a pizza face isn't what I call attractive or impressive at all............then when he comes off of the cycle he's going to resemble a goddamned california raisin all shriveled up and that's extremely depressed and suicidal from losing his explosive weight gain,size and strength.

hyp, If you reread your post and mine you stated "losing his explosive weight gain,size and strength" don't say one thing at the beginning and end up saying the same as I did without the follow up with test.

Tampatraps

 

[hyp1]

hyp, If you reread your post and mine you stated "losing his explosive weight gain,size and strength" don't say one thing at the beginning and end up saying the same as I did without the follow up with test.

Tampatraps

tell you what posing cocksucker with only 330 posts to your goddamned name,I will say anything I fucking want to.and bragging about being on cycle with a couple of bridges for 16 years shows how fucking far you have your head up your fucking ass,especially when giving information to people new to anabolics in general.you can pose if you know your shit,but to me you're coming off like a know it all posing bastard without a fucking clue.

and just for your information i've cycled and trained hard as hell beginning in my early 20's and continued my age being 39 at the moment.

how many fucking times have I recomended that he use injectable test as a fucking base in this thread?.......stop trying to grandstand a point that's already been made by me you cunt.

 

[tampatraps]

tell you what posing cocksucker with only 330 posts to your goddamned name,I will say anything I fucking want to.and bragging about being on cycle with a couple of bridges for 16 years shows how fucking far you have your head up your fucking ass,especially when giving information to people new to anabolics in general.you can pose if you know your shit,but to me you're coming off like a know it all posing bastard without a fucking clue.

and just for your information i've cycled and trained hard as hell beginning in my early 20's and continued my age being 39 at the moment.

how many fucking times have I recomended that he use injectable test as a fucking base in this thread?.......stop trying to grandstand a point that's already been made by me you cunt.

GO FUCK YOURSELF, I WAS POINTING OUT THAT YOU CONTRADICTED YOURSELF. JUST BECAUSE I HAVE ONLY POSTED 330 TIMES HERE, DOSEN'T MEAN THATS ALL IN MY CAREER ON THE BOARDS!!!! PLURAL MEANING MORE THAN 1 JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW!!! I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONE THING I NEED TO DO LEAVE HERE AND GO TO A BOARD THAT'S NOT FULL OF MEMBER GIVING IGNORANT ADVICE. ASK ANYONE WITH A PRO CARD AND SEE HOW MANY YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN ON RETARD!!!!

TAMPATRAPS

 

[hyp1]

GO FUCK YOURSELF, I WAS POINTING OUT THAT YOU CONTRADICTED YOURSELF. JUST BECAUSE I HAVE ONLY POSTED 330 TIMES HERE, DOSEN'T MEAN THATS ALL IN MY CAREER ON THE BOARDS!!!! PLURAL MEANING MORE THAN 1 JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW!!! I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING I DO NEED TO LEAVE HERE AND GO TO A BOARD THAT'S NOT FULL OF MEMBER GIVING IGNORANT ADVICE. ASK ANYONE WITH A PRO CARD AND SEE HOW MANY YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN ON RETARD!!!!

TAMPATRAPS

you capital typing pissed off cunt!LOL!

I didn't contradict myself at all,I've constantly stated in this thread that anadrol and a winstrol cycle wasn't a good one at all.that he would have drastic side effects like massive water retention,acne,and a overall bad feeling in general that the anadrol would cause,maintaining his gains would be damn near impossible...not to mention how hard that shit is on his liver.

that a test based cycle would be the best for a first cycle,something you obviously fucking overlooked.you must have a fucked up habit of jumping into threads and mouthing off some shit without actually reading the whole thread.........do yourself a fucking favor and read the whole thread......which will help you remove your head from your ass.

I called you on your 330 posts because you tried to come off like an expert yet mouthing insane advice to beginners with anabolics.go hang out on your favorite board which is probably some nambla pickup site,you clueless fuck.

 

[bigbox]

you capital typing pissed off cunt!LOL!

I didn't contradict myself at all,I've constantly stated in this thread that anadrol and a winstrol cycle wasn't a good one at all.that he would have drastic side effects like massive water retention,acne,and a overall bad feeling in general that the anadrol would cause,maintaining his gains would be damn near impossible...not to mention how hard that shit is on his liver.

that a test based cycle would be the best for a first cycle,something you obviously fucking overlooked.you must have a fucked up habit of jumping into threads and mouthing off some shit without actually reading the whole thread.........do yourself a fucking favor and read the whole thread......which will help you remove your head from your ass.

I called you on your 330 posts because you tried to come off like an expert yet mouthing insane advice to beginners with anabolics.go hang out on your favorite board which is probably some nambla pickup site,you clueless fuck.

lol You are the man!!! Everytime I read one of your posts it makes my day!!! Tell it how it is!!!