Post up! I wanna know who has the most DUIs

[Milhouse]

I am with Matt and a few others here, the DUI thing is way overblown and alot of bs is pumped out there. I am sure that someone out there is going to call me an asshole because someone they know was hurt or killed by a dui. And i am sorry to hear that but its time for debate here.

How many people do you know get into accidents who were...

1-speeding
2-smoked weed
3-talking on a cell phone
4-driving too slow(yes that causes accidents too, next time your doing 50-60 miles an hour in a 55 zone and come around a corner/over a hill and see the back end of some old geezer driving 25 mph then remember this)
5- Driving stupid
6- not paying attention
7-doing stuff they should not be doing while driving ie putting on makeup, reading the paper/maps, wearing a walkman. The cops see this shit all the time
8- running red lights, stop signs, making illegal turns, driving with a vehicle that should not be on the road, driving without proper eywear, windows so tinted or dirty that you cant see fuck all, driving in weather conditions you have no experince or good ability in.
9-street racing
10- doing stupid stunts in your car or motorcycle

There are so many things where traffic accidents occur daily because of some stupidity, mark my words in a few years cell phone use while driving will be the new dui.
There is already enough laws for dui, I think if the politicians put as much effort into real crime(like murderers, rapists, child molesters, terrorists, inner city gangs etc) as they do then the world would be a safer place. But then that stuff means they have to work so that wont happen,

 

[Scarlett33]

I don't think I would be proud of DUI's and want to post that I had the most.

Fuck drunk drivers.

No shit. Any one who drives drunk is the worst kiind of loser.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

This doesn't sound like something to brag about. You were extremely lucky then. So were other people on the road.

Don't take it wrong.. but maybe this DUI you got now is one that you were "owed" for all the other times. Karma you know....

true true.....

it was the best way to learn the lesson.

 

[AAP]

true true.....

it was the best way to learn the lesson.

Actually, the best way is for MADD to hold you down while I have my way with you.

Of course, your DUI was the second best.

 

[Imnotdutch]

All of those things will lead to you getting pulled over int he UK.

BTW just because those things might not be illegal in your country surely doesnt make it ok to do something that you know wil impair your driving ability?

I am with Matt and a few others here, the DUI thing is way overblown and alot of bs is pumped out there. I am sure that someone out there is going to call me an asshole because someone they know was hurt or killed by a dui. And i am sorry to hear that but its time for debate here.

How many people do you know get into accidents who were...

1-speeding
2-smoked weed
3-talking on a cell phone
4-driving too slow(yes that causes accidents too, next time your doing 50-60 miles an hour in a 55 zone and come around a corner/over a hill and see the back end of some old geezer driving 25 mph then remember this)
5- Driving stupid
6- not paying attention
7-doing stuff they should not be doing while driving ie putting on makeup, reading the paper/maps, wearing a walkman. The cops see this shit all the time
8- running red lights, stop signs, making illegal turns, driving with a vehicle that should not be on the road, driving without proper eywear, windows so tinted or dirty that you cant see fuck all, driving in weather conditions you have no experince or good ability in.
9-street racing
10- doing stupid stunts in your car or motorcycle

There are so many things where traffic accidents occur daily because of some stupidity, mark my words in a few years cell phone use while driving will be the new dui.
There is already enough laws for dui, I think if the politicians put as much effort into real crime(like murderers, rapists, child molesters, terrorists, inner city gangs etc) as they do then the world would be a safer place. But then that stuff means they have to work so that wont happen,

 

[Lumberg]

zero

I've driven while in a questionable state a few times.

I know for a fact that other than being dead drunk the most dangerous state in which to drive is being under the influence of really strong emotions.

Of course driving mad is extremely dangerous, being extremely sad, even being extremely happy and bopping to the music can get you in trouble.

But how do you regulate that?

 

[javaguru]

All of those things will lead to you getting pulled over int he UK.

BTW just because those things might not be illegal in your country surely doesnt make it ok to do something that you know wil impair your driving ability?

All of the things listed are indeed illegal in the United States. I have a problem with the fucktard emotion over reason soccer mom lobbies like MADD who push DUI and anti-drug legislation. They throw off the equilibrium of our justice system and represent everything I hate about special interest and lobbies. They have helped create a system of punishments that are disproportionate with the harm caused to "society" and negatively impacted our constitutional rights.

Speeding is responsible for almost a third of the deaths on US freeways, 20 mph over the limit gets you two points on your license and usually a hundred dollar fine in my jurisdiction. Your first DUI gets you three days in jail, three days in an alcohol program, one to three years probation plus a one year license suspension, it also costs the average person around $5,000.00 in fines and fees if you DON'T fight it. That's for just for driving over the legal limit and not actually causing harm, just being unlucky and the victim of a checkpoint or pre-emptive stop.

If you are unfortunate enough to be involved in an accident with a BAC of .002(the limit is.08 in my jurisdiction) or higher and someone is killed, regardless of fault, a special DUI vehicular homicide statute kicks in that pretty much guarantees ten years in prison and a lifetime license suspension. For a standard vehicular homicide you won't get over five unless you were extremely reckless. I posted in a thread about a guy this happened too, twelve years in prison with felony record, lifetime license suspension and a ruined life over an accident that wasn't his fault and he was under the limit to fly a commercial airline.

On a side note, in the USA on average a first time non-violent drug offender receives a longer prison sentence than a child molester or rapist, thanks to mandatory sentencing laws. There was a discussion regarding crime and punishments and I posted a whole list of citations regarding these bullshit laws. Many federal judges have exercised their right to not hear drug cases in protest of these laws.

 

[alien amp pharm]

Nothing happened. When I finally got my DUI, the original stop was for speeding (the classic non-DUI indicator) and I passed two of the three roadside tests. (The one I failed was administered incorrectly)

Oh yeah, How about getting a DUI because some dumbass ran a redlight and crashed into my car. That's how I got mine.

And like you, I passed the road-side tests. (4 out of 5) the only one I failed was the "eye twitch" test with is something you can't fake when drinking. All the other ones I passed.

Bottom line is they will find a way to screw you regardless if you are capable of driving or not.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Oh yeah, How about getting a DUI because some dumbass ran a redlight and crashed into my car. That's how I got mine.

And like you, I passed the road-side tests. (4 out of 5) the only one I failed was the "eye twitch" test with is something you can't fake when drinking. All the other ones I passed.

Bottom line is they will find a way to screw you regardless if you are capable of driving or not.

yeah there is always an agenda - cops being told to push DUIs, prosecutors who get ahead based on a conviction rate, and the like.

Sorry to hear it bro - it's ridiculous.

JavaGuru made some good points - the loss to society due to DUI punishment far outstrips the damage done to society by DUI traffic stops. (I advocate stronger punishment for DUI accidents)

Not only that, but the Supreeme Court has ruled that there are "DUI exceptions" to the 4th and 5th Amendment. (4th = unreasonable search and seziure, 5th = right not to self-incriminate).

Amazingly, in 200 years, there were no expcetions. Suddenly there are two. This is the forerunner of the drug war, the war on terror, the Patriot Act, and everything else that erodes our civil liberties. Thanks MADD.

Back to my situation: Mine has cost in excess of $20,000. I've chosen to fight everything and I am lucky to have the resources to wage such a campaign.

Because of this I have worked less, which decreases the money I have, which means I spend less and don't hire anyone. This has made it harder to travel because there are always court dates and motion hearings, harder to do anything productive.

And why? because I was speeding (with no evidence of inability to control the vehicle) on a back country rural road with no other traffic in sight at 300 AM.

Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[Lumberg]

I agree that the punishment should be more severe once you're in an accident and less severe for just driving under the influence.

It looks like JavaGuru's state has something like that on the books.

I think that the emotional appeals (like the one that was a big trend around here a few months ago--remember Jacqui?) are gonna have a field day with this, like we need to get the drunk drivers off the road BEFORE they cause an accident.

Matt you and I have a history of arguing so I'm not trying to flame you here, just offering another viewpoint.