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[sofakingdel]

I'd say the main difference between the guys now and 20 years ago is slin. I think more than anything, it's the slin which has created the increase in size along with the big bellies.

I haven't really noticed major bone structure differences from HGH and I'd imagine guys would be taking outrageous amounts if it worked well. Ligaments, yes. Who knows what it's doing there.

Slin blows you up. But as Ross said, it's not a better look, just bigger. I would never take it and think its insane.

what percentage of todays bodybuilders use that combo today. is it mostly the huge monsterous guys?

 

[nsashbl01]

I'd say the main difference between the guys now and 20 years ago is slin. I think more than anything, it's the slin which has created the increase in size along with the big bellies.

I haven't really noticed major bone structure differences from HGH and I'd imagine guys would be taking outrageous amounts if it worked well. Ligaments, yes. Who knows what it's doing there.

Slin blows you up. But as Ross said, it's not a better look, just bigger. I would never take it and think its insane.

Slin and HGH saved my mom's leg. She's 69 years old and has been a Type 1 diabetic for over 30 years. Last year she broke her leg and had complications and almost lost it. I got involved with my hrt doc and started her on gh. Saved her leg, docs couldn't believe it. Her slin use, well, thats to keep her alive. But seriously, hgh saved her leg that docs said she'd loose. Best investment I ever made!

 

[digit0x]

cyp




Made a vow from the start to...


Never use more then 3 compounds at a time

Never stay on longer than 2 months

Never exceed a total of 750 mgs
place.

8 weeks max?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Slin and HGH saved my mom's leg. She's 69 years old and has been a Type 1 diabetic for over 30 years. Last year she broke her leg and had complications and almost lost it. I got involved with my hrt doc and started her on gh. Saved her leg, docs couldn't believe it. Her slin use, well, thats to keep her alive. But seriously, hgh saved her leg that docs said she'd loose. Best investment I ever made!

But dude, as glad as I am that it was available to help, that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Pennicillin, Cipro, adrenaline and barbituates saves lives too. I wouldn't recommend using them in a cycle.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

what percentage of todays bodybuilders use that combo today. is it mostly the huge monsterous guys?

Help with designing a peptide cycle (hGH/IGF/MGF/Slin) is the most common request I get from IFBB (male) professionals right now.

The more genetically gifted women in Figure/Fitness try to use a bit more GH and a bit less AAS if they can afford it, to avoid androgenic side effects. Most top women are looking at the changes in facial structure that they're seeing on the (former) top women who started competing a decade ago, and are cutting back on the AAS and using more GH. This isn't a hard and fast rule, but it's a trend I am noticing.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

None.

I think because the half-life is too short and lack of systemic effect.

The entire effect is systemic. Admittedly, I prefer ephedrine to clen or albuterol...but I honestly think that you likely didn't try albuterol in the proper protocol if you didn't think it was better than clen. It's really far superior.

 

[Nelson Montana]

8 weeks max?

Yeah, believe it or not that was the standard way back when, unless you were competing. For some reason, at around between 6-10 weeks the body starts to catch on to the exogenous hormones and it quickly slows down both natural T production and the response (intolerance) to the drugs. The "kick" isn't quite there anymore. This is why I can't understand how suddenly there's a generation of guys who claim they don't even FEEL the gear for 6 weeks! (???)

It's at that point where it's best to get out -- recover -- and do it again a couple of months later. That's of course if you're health conscious.

The hard core guys stayed on longer and some never came off. I never saw myself as someone whose life was anabolics. I was fascinated by them and since they helped do what I'd been trying to do all my life, it made sense to capitalize on it. So I really appreciated the advantage they were giving me and when I was on I trained like a madman and eat everything that walked, flew or swam. I think that's why I made good gains on small dosages.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

The hard core guys stayed on longer and some never came off. I never saw myself as someone whose life was anabolics. I was fascinated by them and since they helped do what I'd been trying to do all my life, it made sense to capitalize on it. So I really appreciated the advantage they were giving me and when I was on I trained like a madman and eat everything that walked, flew or swam. I think that's why I made good gains on small dosages.

Nobody comes off any longer. I work with literally a dozen top BB'ers and Powerlifters, and none of them ever come off, ever.

Ever.

Their maintenance dose is 500mgs/week, basically to a person. I think they all use that amount to maintain. No shit.

Literally nobody I work with who is a top level IFBB pro or top powerlifter is using any less than that. I work with 1 (one!) 165lb powerlifter (Elite level) who uses 200mgs of test/week for his maintenance dose.

 

[alcatraz1662]

Test Enth
Test Cyp
Test Prop
Test Susp
EQ
Tren Ace
Winny
Var
Dbol
Superdrol
Phera Plex

AIFM
Adex
Letro
HCG
Nolva
Clomid
IGF-1
Clen

What I've learned:
1. Never do winny again...ever.
2. Won't do var unless I have the $$ to run 100mg+.
3. Letro is stronger than you think, most people run 1.25mg/ed or eod....I ran .3mg/ed and that was more than enough.
4. Clen doesn't do shit for me...even at 200mcg+.
5. Suspension rules.
6. So does HCG.
7. And finally, Tren might be the earthly physical form of the devil...aka Satan...aka Lucifer.

~Alc

 

[skilikeme]

The entire effect is systemic. Admittedly, I prefer ephedrine to clen or albuterol...but I honestly think that you likely didn't try albuterol in the proper protocol if you didn't think it was better than clen. It's really far superior.

To the experienced, quick Q if you don't mind lending your knowledge on hGH.

I am someone that has good genetics and is fit already (w/o any AAS at this point). I need extra quickness and stregth. Wanting to try hGH alone, over the next 6 - 8 months, at 3iu, 5 on 2 off. I get urine tested so I can't take much else.