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Post Cycle Therapy Questions

I have a question...
Im on HRT so after running, say, sus250 at 500mg/week for 8-10 weeks, what is proper protocol here?
Someone actually recommended no clomid for pct, just going back to hrt 1 week after last inject no matter what steroid it was (deca or test).
Isnt this gain suicide? In other words, wont most of the gains dissapear if you go from 500mg a week to an hrt dose of 100mg a week?
 
CLOMIDCLOWN said:
I have a question...
Im on HRT so after running, say, sus250 at 500mg/week for 8-10 weeks, what is proper protocol here?
Someone actually recommended no clomid for pct, just going back to hrt 1 week after last inject no matter what steroid it was (deca or test).
Isnt this gain suicide? In other words, wont most of the gains dissapear if you go from 500mg a week to an hrt dose of 100mg a week?
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You may lose some yes (some loss is to be expected in an advanced athlete)...You are not going to be in as high of a state of anabolism by going back down to the "normal" test range again...
I dont think you will do "gains suicide" though :)

The problem is that you are essentially still "on" even at the 100 mg/week...It WILL inhibit your natural production (to what degree noone can say definitively though)
 
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The problem is that you are essentially still "on" even at the 100 mg/week...It WILL inhibit your natural production (to what degree noone can say definitively though)
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IE: Your balls are worthless with or without the 100mg test HEHEHEHE
 
Otis Hurtz said:
would like to know how long after your last inj of test would you start using clomid.
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Clomid does not stimulate the release of natural testosterone
the the correct time for Clomid depends on the type and cycle of steroids you have been using. Select from the list any steroids you've used in your cycle and whichever one has the latest starting point is the time to commence Clomid. For example, if Dianabol, Sustanon and Winstrol were cycled, the time for administering Clomid should be 3 weeks post cycle, as Sustanon remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Steroid Time after last administration Length of Clomid Cycle
Anadrol50/Anapolan50: 8 - 12 hours 3 weeks
Deca durabolan: 3 weeks 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 - 8 hours 3 weeks
Equipoise: 17 - 21 days 3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone: 3 days 3 weeks
Primabolan depot: 10 - 14 days 2 weeks
Sustanon: 3 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Enanthate/Testaviron: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days 3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension: 4 - 8 hours 2-3 weeks
Winstrol 8 - 12 hours 2-3 weeks
 
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black_stripe1658 said:
Clomid does not stimulate the release of natural testosterone
the the correct time for Clomid depends on the type and cycle of steroids you have been using. Select from the list any steroids you've used in your cycle and whichever one has the latest starting point is the time to commence Clomid. For example, if Dianabol, Sustanon and Winstrol were cycled, the time for administering Clomid should be 3 weeks post cycle, as Sustanon remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Steroid Time after last administration Length of Clomid Cycle
Anadrol50/Anapolan50: 8 - 12 hours 3 weeks
Deca durabolan: 3 weeks 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 - 8 hours 3 weeks
Equipoise: 17 - 21 days 3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone: 3 days 3 weeks
Primabolan depot: 10 - 14 days 2 weeks
Sustanon: 3 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Enanthate/Testaviron: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days 3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension: 4 - 8 hours 2-3 weeks
Winstrol 8 - 12 hours 2-3 weeks
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GREAT POST MAN !!!!!
 
300mg/day?? taht's overkill.

most take 50mg/day. 100mg/day if you're into heavy shit like tren, test, winny, etc. I'm on anavar so it's a lot less heavy on the HPTA so i just use 50mg.
 
razor, 300 for the first day is becoming the protocol after using long acting esters.
I dont know if I agree with that but I have noticed that is becoming extremely popular. I also think it depends on the person. Some people need 300 to get jumpstarted while others respond well to 50.
 
Razorguns said:
300mg/day?? taht's overkill.

most take 50mg/day. 100mg/day if you're into heavy shit like tren, test, winny, etc. I'm on anavar so it's a lot less heavy on the HPTA so i just use 50mg.
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For years here THAT was the standard protocol...:o

But more recently alot of guys are not going above 100 mg/day on any day...
The sides dont seem nearly as bad for many this way...
 
hi, i'm pretty much an amateur lifter. i am 5'11' and weigh 195lbs. i've done a few cycles of test, deca and anadrol. never stacked. i now have ref-b, equipoise , and super test. does anybody have any suggestions on how to cycle this?? i've been ifting for about ten years now.thanks for any help,tips , and comments. what can i excpect from this gear?? should i get rid of the ref-b??? is drinking it just as effective?? do i need something at the end of this cycle to compliment?? how should i cycle this??

thanks a bunch
 
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FYI

I finished an 18-week cycle in July, happy with my results,
Used a lot of different gear over the 18 weeks with plenty of anti-e’s

Did proper PCT, Liquidex, Clomid and HGC

Just starting to recover my libido and recovering from Deca Dick
 
Avena and maca are great, but under used. Has anybody used cabergoline pct?
 
jubei said:
Avena and maca are great, but under used. Has anybody used cabergoline pct?
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Yes, for about 8 weeks...
But my PCT was SO aggressive that I cant really say the cabergoline made a discernable difference (though it should be noted this last PCT WAS my most successful PCT ever :)...I had virtually NO down time in sex drive :D)
 
post it up term, i'm doing a tren cycle, i need something really aggressive.
 
jubei said:
post it up term, i'm doing a tren cycle, i need something really aggressive.
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HCG 500 IU for last 10 days beginning 3 days after last sust injection (with a run of something like 1500 IU 3 times in an eod fashion mid cycle as well)
Clomid 50 mg /day for the ENTIRE time between cycles...(which has been 9-10 weeks now :p)
Nolva 10-20 mg/day for 4-5 weeks
Tribulus ED between cycles (taken 3x a day...I use Twinlab Tribulus Fuel, 6 caps per day)....**I Think the Tribulus has THE MOST effective impact for me out of all of these things**
Avena Sativa ~1-2 grams/day (for ~5 weeks)...I would have kept doing this one but I ran out and was too lazy to pick up more :o
ZMA (one dose at bedtime)
Cabergoline last 4 weeks of cycle and also 4 weeks of PCT...~8 weeks total (.5 mg 2x a week)

I think that was all of it, lol :p...some of these things may be off dosage wise a tad, but I had really NO down time as far as sex drive is concerned, and I only lost 3 lbs...And this with me being TOTALLY out of the gym for 6 weeks from injuries :), so I am STOKED that I kept most of the size even though I couldnt train...(of course my ripped 6 pack is now only a 4 pack, but I think has more to do with the fact that I couldnt, and still really cant train my abs just yet :()
 
The Terminator said:
HCG 500 IU for last 10 days beginning 3 days after last sust injection (with a run of something like 1500 IU 3 times in an eod fashion mid cycle as well)
Clomid 50 mg /day for the ENTIRE time between cycles...(which has been 9-10 weeks now :p)
Nolva 10-20 mg/day for 4-5 weeks
Tribulus ED between cycles (taken 3x a day...I use Twinlab Tribulus Fuel, 6 caps per day)....**I Think the Tribulus has THE MOST effective impact for me out of all of these things**
Avena Sativa ~1-2 grams/day (for ~5 weeks)...I would have kept doing this one but I ran out and was too lazy to pick up more :o
ZMA (one dose at bedtime)
Cabergoline last 4 weeks of cycle and also 4 weeks of PCT...~8 weeks total (.5 mg 2x a week)

I think that was all of it, lol :p...some of these things may be off dosage wise a tad, but I had really NO down time as far as sex drive is concerned, and I only lost 3 lbs...And this with me being TOTALLY out of the gym for 6 weeks from injuries :), so I am STOKED that I kept most of the size even though I couldnt train...(of course my ripped 6 pack is now only a 4 pack, but I think has more to do with the fact that I couldnt, and still really cant train my abs just yet :()
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Term -what's Cabergoline ?
 
TheRide said:
Term -what's Cabergoline ?
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An anti-prolactin...
Also used to treat Parkinsons disease, I think...

Prolactin is the chemical released after you achieve orgams :D, the chemical thought to be responsible for the typical male behavior of wanting to roll over and fall asleep, or get the hell out of there like you are fleeing a crime scene :D.
 
The Terminator said:
... or get the hell out of there like you are fleeing a crime scene :D.
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...and here I thought it was the sound of her husband coming home all these years... :eek2:
 
I need some advice on this topic.(pct) I am doing anadrol/ cyp cycle for 6 to 7 weeks. I havn't decided yet. Nothing too srong just 1 tab a day and 400cc a week. What should I do for test booster/ size keeper. I usually just each a crap load of tribulas(sp) like 20-25 pills a day for a week or 2. What kind of advice do you all have for me?

Thanks
 
I really really appreciate this post and everyone contributing to it. im really confused with PCT, so if anyone can help me....you guys can.

my cycle:
40 mg Dbol every day weeks 1-4
250 mg enanthate every 3 days weeks 1-12
75 mg fina every day weeks 1-8

please help me with exactly what, how much to get for proper PCT. everyone at my gym gives me different opinions and not sure exactly what to follow. thanks for the help in advance!
 
pimp22 said:
Dose GHB do enything for increasing GH?
and will it cause muscle grouth?
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I used to take GHB at night... for 4 years. I was all natural those years and put on quality lean muscle. I believe it helped me quite a bit. The stuff I used was purchased at GNC at the time... Renewtrient, Revivrant etc.
Be carefull with the home brews out there. I personally would not touch the stuff. I'm on the tail end of probation from that stuff! Remember.. if you give that to someone it is the same as "selling them heroin!". I found that one out the hard way. I would avoid it!
 
slat1 said:
I used to take GHB at night... for 4 years. I was all natural those years and put on quality lean muscle. I believe it helped me quite a bit. The stuff I used was purchased at GNC at the time... Renewtrient, Revivrant etc.
Be carefull with the home brews out there. I personally would not touch the stuff. I'm on the tail end of probation from that stuff! Remember.. if you give that to someone it is the same as "selling them heroin!". I found that one out the hard way. I would avoid it!
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how much muscle did you put on?and how aften did you lift?
Thank you
 
can i get some PCT help?

weeks 1-12 250 ent every three days
weeks 1-4 dbol, 40mgs every day
weeks 8-12 fina, 75mgs every day.

thanks for the help, i really appreciate it!
 
CLOMIDCLOWN said:
I have a question...
Im on HRT so after running, say, sus250 at 500mg/week for 8-10 weeks, what is proper protocol here?
Someone actually recommended no clomid for pct, just going back to hrt 1 week after last inject no matter what steroid it was (deca or test).
Isnt this gain suicide? In other words, wont most of the gains dissapear if you go from 500mg a week to an hrt dose of 100mg a week?
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i believe carth is on HRT. if i remember right, once you are on HRT you do not have to do pct since you are always "on". i would ask hime to be safe. and by the way his back is jacked.
 
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