POST CYCLE RECOVERY:..............RADAR'S STICKEY

[wutangnomo]

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DRJMW:

Thanks for the post! Much appreciated! I believe there was a typo in your first line. Did you mean begin an eight-week recovery cycle a week after last AAS intake, not "and" in place of "a"?

Also, do you believe in using an anti-e DURING the cycle and discontinuing its use AFTER the cycle is over?

I am seriously considering doing an eight-week anavar only cycle (30mg) for my first cycle. It only makes sense to me to PREVENT atropy from occurring in the first place so I will be using HCG throughout the cycle Mon, Wed, and Fri in conjunction with Nolva. With respect to an anti-e I don't believe I will require that, nor will I use clomid b/c of the possible sides and this being a fairly light cycle. Thoughts?

 

[DrJMW]

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Yes. Begin the recovery cycle the week after the last AAS intake. I beleive in using Aromasin, Femara, or Arimidex DURING an aromatizing cycle, then discontinuing it in PCT. You will need an anti-E if using HCG throughout your OX cycle. The testes will pump out some Testos, so I would just use a blocker like clomid or nolvadex--not an aromatase inhibitor like aromasin/femara/arimidex.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

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Little confused here doctor!

If using HCG through out a cycle instead of at the end, should I be running nolvadex along with HCG (say at 20mg/day throughout cycle) even if i am already using an aromatase inhibitor?

 

[DrJMW]

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FAT_SUMO: wuta wants to run HCG throughout an OX cycle. Ox doesn't aromatize, so he isn't running any anti-E for the OX. He needs to run an anti-e, as stated above, if he runs HCG. You, on the other hand, I am assuming that you are already running an aromatizing AAS. In that case, no extra anti-E (like nolva or Clomid) is normally required. Remember, in your case, your testos levels will be higher, so be vigilant. Be prepared to increase/change aromatase inhibitor if you start exhibiting estorgenic sides.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

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Thanks for the help doc!
I was planning on running 12.5mg/eod of aromasin during my cycle! Using HCG throughout and nolvadex for PCT!

 

[kraze]

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what's this talk about some people saying they loose all their gains when using nolvadex only for pct? also, can someone touch up on pct for var only cycles?

 

[DrJMW]

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The problem with using nolvadex or clomid only for PCT (assuming no use of HCG either during or PC) is that these drugs do not directly stimulate an increase in testicular size. there are two problems encountered during post-cycle: decreased testicular mass and decreased secretion of LH from the pituitary. The most important part of PCT is to QUICKLY increase testicular size. This is done with HCG. Restoring pituitary function to produce LH is easy and fast with drugs like nolvadex and clomid. These drugs also act as anti-e's to block the increase in estrogen from this process. It works--plain and simple.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

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drj im glad to have you posting here..just wanted to say thanks!

 

[Dirty V]

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Doc I need your advice please! I just finished a tren/75mgs EOD for 4 weeks only, It shut my natural production down hard. 3 days after my last shot I started taking Clomid at 100mgs a day. I have 20mg Nolva's on hand also. It has been 5 days since I started and my Testis are still shriveled, I know its early but should I use the Nolva instead? or both? Thank you, I appriciate the fact you are here!!!!!!!

 

[jatca69]

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How do you know when to use nolva during a cycle? What are the signs, and when should you stop? Is 20 mg a day enough or does it depend on what is included in your cycle?