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Poor upper body strength

Anthrax Invasion said:
Not sure why this was directed at me, and whether it was to be taken as you're siding with my point, or believing I mean something other.

Your results are what I'd expect, let's just put it that way. ;)

Was agreeing with YOU...:)
 
Slightly o/t (sorry to jack your thread - take this as a seconding of b fold's advice :)).

I tend to think that a NEWB will see best progress in upper body if they focus on lower body as well, whereas an advanced lifter would see best direct results by focusing theor efforts on a specific area, as b fold's experience suggests. Just my .02
 
Guinness5.0 said:
Slightly o/t (sorry to jack your thread - take this as a seconding of b fold's advice :)).

I tend to think that a NEWB will see best progress in upper body if they focus on lower body as well, whereas an advanced lifter would see best direct results by focusing theor efforts on a specific area, as b fold's experience suggests. Just my .02

Well I don't know about best progress with their upper, 'cause the stimulus of lower body work doesn't magically change from newbie to advanced (i.e., it doesn't start out affecting the upper body, then outright change). At the same time, I do think a newbie should be focusing on his entire body. Upper body specialization should come later, when weak points need to be brought up. But that's discussion for another day.
 
Anthrax too some extent i can agree with u im just saying everything ive read, however just because someone that should know what they are talking about doesent mean they do. For instance the best ive ever bench was 270 at 150 however it was with bad form. I'm not talking arching and all that im simply talking about position of the bar which lead to a torn rotary. At this time however i did no leg work only upper body and my test levels were out the roof anyone would tell u i took steriods even though i did not. I also however worked out 4 hours a day and ran 9 miles(9 miles was easy), which i have heard from many thats not a good idea too gain strength. These people probly did other stuff though, all i did was sleep eat and girls. I think studies are shit and for the most don't really tell you much because you do not know where your people are at in life. I just say work on your weaknesses and sleep and work your lower body and upper out as hard and often as possible without over training. This is however the hardest thing to do.
 
That was very jumbled, so I'm not sure what you were getting at entirely.

From what I did understand - yes, consistency is of utmost importance. The rest is pretty easy.

Did you get your test levels checked? If not, you don't know if they were "through the roof". I don't see the relevance of this, anyway.

All that running, plus four hour sessions, coupled with (an assumption, here) too little food means poor strength gains. Has nothing to do with training lower body with upper, still not seeing the relevance.

Agreed - work on your weak points, keep up with your strong points, bring everything up over time, sleep and eat. Done.
 
No i dident get my test levels checked however i am very in touch with my body and i can tell the difference from hardly any, average and alot.
I was also saying that you can not always believe what someone says no matter how well they should know what they are talking about. I was saying yes that I ran alot and worked out too much acording to many, but that is when i saw most of my strength gains dramatically increasing. However i got lots of sleep and ate pretty good everyday.
 
being "in tune" with your body means nothing. what does that mean? you had more energy? you were more aggressive? sounds like if i were sleeping more and eating correctly, I could feel that way too. there are too many factors that vary for you to nail it down. sleep, workouts, food, and hormonal changes. plus you could be deconditioned and on the comeback which can attribute to alot of progress. way too many variables....
 
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