Police-caused death JUSTIFIED!

[2Thick]

All you have to do is watch the video and you will see why the cops did nothing wrong.

The cause of Nathaniel Jones' (search) death on Sunday was under investigation. But preliminary autopsy results showed that the 41-year-old man had an enlarged heart, and his blood contained cocaine and PCP, or "angel dust," both of which can cause bizarre or aggressive behavior, Hamilton County Coroner Carl Parrott said.

The 350lb man had PCP in his blood. That alone exonerates the pigs. If any of you were there, you would have done the same thing. He attacked a police officer and tried to kill him.

I hate cops, but this time they were doing what they were supposed to be doing. Getting rid of society's trash.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104467,00.html

 

[chrisoh]

2Thick, for once you and I are on the same page.

 

[jerkbox]

well, for once I agree with you.

 

[from zero]

Word is bond.

 

[Deterass]

I agree %100

 

[sh4dowf4lcon]

for once I agreee with 2thick

 

[jackangel]

i felt the same way 10 minutes ago, but now that 2sticks has posted his opinion, i will have to reconsider.

 

[BO-DEN]

someone eles posted a thread about this incident

 

[beastboy]

Sounds like Malice Green.

 

[SoloFlex]

i like the way you called them "pigs"

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

PCP didn't exonerate the rodney king cops.

Piglets need to be better at assessing true "threats".
What was this guy going to do, break a table?

Cops are another example of public sector unionization gone horribly wrong.

This Jones guy was worthless trash but let's face it, most people are.

 

[SoloFlex]

PCP didn't exonerate the rodney king cops.

Piglets need to be better at assessing true "threats".
What was this guy going to do, break a table?

Cops are another example of public sector unionization gone horribly wrong.

This Jones guy was worthless trash but let's face it, most people are.

why do you want everything to be free market, but people can't be "free" to unionize?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

why do you want everything to be free market, but people can't be "free" to unionize?

Because if people tried to unionize in a "free market", employers would be free to crush them via any economic means they had available. (Think about it....)

Unions are untenable in a true free market.


As to the public sector,

If you think tax-funded entities should be allowed to negotaite for more money from the people they are supposed to serve, you deserve getting ass raped on taxes.

even uber-liberal FDR realzied they were bad and forbade public sector unions. It wasn't until the feel good 1960s that they came to be, and they have since increased the cost of everything they touch while decreasing performance.

 

[SoloFlex]

Because if people tried to unionize in a "free market", employers would be free to crush them via any economic means they had available. (Think about it....)

Unions are untenable in a true free market.


As to the public sector,

If you think tax-funded entities should be allowed to negotaite for more money from the people they are supposed to serve, you deserve getting ass raped on taxes.

even uber-liberal FDR realzied they were bad and forbade public sector unions. It wasn't until the feel good 1960s that they came to be, and they have since increased the cost of everything they touch while decreasing performance.

Oh I don't doubt the examples you gave, but how can you say one thing should be free, but other things should be regulated?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Oh I don't doubt the examples you gave, but how can you say one thing should be free, but other things should be regulated?

everything should be free market.

Public things should be minimal....military, some environmental, some law enforcement, etc...very very little.

 

[collegiateLifter]

Because if people tried to unionize in a "free market", employers would be free to crush them via any economic means they had available. (Think about it....)

Unions are untenable in a true free market.

Please explain this some more. As i understand it in the 1800s and early 1900s Big business owners would try to quash union movements, but were most effective when they hired mobsters to threaten, hurt and/or kill union leaders. Not legit free market activity by any means.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Please explain this some more. As i understand it in the 1800s and early 1900s Big business owners would try to quash union movements, but were most effective when they hired mobsters to threaten, hurt and/or kill union leaders. Not legit free market activity by any means.

The problem at that time was that then - like now - public opinion portrayed unionizing as noble while evil employers doomed workers to a less than standard existence.

Only now with teh avaiability of sphisticated data collection can we see that unionization is a canceron our economy. They did fight for and win some noble goals - those are laws now (childlabor etc) so the unions are now just a drain.


Phrases like "robber barons" emerged...people like Mother Mary Jones became great leaders of the people inthe media's eye.

People appealed to government to intervene and they did. Passing Anti Trust laws, income tax, and breaking up Standard Oil serve as three examples of the government killing a free market for political gain.

Leg breaking tactics were used after the government started to come downon the side of unions...so it s really a philosohical debate as there is little empirical evidence of a free market.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

All you have to do is watch the video and you will see why the cops did nothing wrong.



The 350lb man had PCP in his blood. That alone exonerates the pigs. If any of you were there, you would have done the same thing. He attacked a police officer and tried to kill him.

I hate cops, but this time they were doing what they were supposed to be doing. Getting rid of society's trash.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104467,00.html

I completely agree with 2Thick.

I always knew you had it in you.

 

[The Shadow]

All you have to do is watch the video and you will see why the cops did nothing wrong.



The 350lb man had PCP in his blood. That alone exonerates the pigs. If any of you were there, you would have done the same thing. He attacked a police officer and tried to kill him.

I hate cops, but this time they were doing what they were supposed to be doing. Getting rid of society's trash.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104467,00.html

I saw that vid in its entirety......I was amazed that the dude could stand up after the beating he took

 

[b fold the truth]

Those cops were working HARD to restrain him...and I didn't see ANY of them hitting him with everything that they had...

B True

 

[BigBazooka]

I lolled.

 

[SoloFlex]

The problem at that time was that then - like now - public opinion portrayed unionizing as noble while evil employers doomed workers to a less than standard existence.

Only now with teh avaiability of sphisticated data collection can we see that unionization is a canceron our economy. They did fight for and win some noble goals - those are laws now (childlabor etc) so the unions are now just a drain.


Phrases like "robber barons" emerged...people like Mother Mary Jones became great leaders of the people inthe media's eye.

People appealed to government to intervene and they did. Passing Anti Trust laws, income tax, and breaking up Standard Oil serve as three examples of the government killing a free market for political gain.

Leg breaking tactics were used after the government started to come downon the side of unions...so it s really a philosohical debate as there is little empirical evidence of a free market.

If companies can use a free market to thier advantage then skilled workers should be allowed the same. Fair is Fair.

 

[PIGEON-RAT]

People appealed to government to intervene and they did. Passing Anti Trust laws, income tax, and breaking up Standard Oil serve as three examples of the government killing a free market for political gain.

So you would like to do away with anti-trust laws? how would you like to use only Microsoft software for EVERYTHING, just because there was no competition left standing? do you like to pay 20 bucks for cd's? I can tell you that price would be much higher if the RIAA didnt' have to bow to anti-trust laws.

any of your ancestors work as laborers for industrial big business?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

So you would like to do away with anti-trust laws? how would you like to use only Microsoft software for EVERYTHING, just because there was no competition left standing? do you like to pay 20 bucks for cd's? I can tell you that price would be much higher if the RIAA didnt' have to bow to anti-trust laws.

any of your ancestors work as laborers for industrial big business?

Do you think the government restrained Microsoft until very recently? Those assclowns at DOJ were using green-screen terminals when MS Windows dropped. Many of them still do.

Despite MS running rampant over the software industry, there are like 10000 other software companies. MS controls the PC market, but they fight hard in the server makrket and many other areas.

What MS did do was standardize things, so that all of your components work together,and is a big factor in making computers cheaper so everyoen can own one. Amazingly, the free market still allowed the growth of like 10000 software companies.

People complained about MS stifling competition, but did they? They either bought competitors, or scared competitors and then produced the products themselves. Some call the latter unethical (I do), but it still resulted in new products coming to market.

A better example might be Wal Mart, but people shop there in breathtaking numbers.

I don't buy CDs these days. Fewer and fewer people do. The RIAA and member companies controlled the distribution channels for decades, until free market ingenuity broke it. RIAA and member companies will have to scramble for a better model to compete. Amazingly, the market broke their price gouging strangehold, not laws. The RIAA screwed artists and fixed prices. Now they are getting demolished by free market innovation.

My ancestors did all kinds of stuff. Know what they are doing now? Being dead. And in my world, the living are not slaves to the dead.

Free markets work because the people decide who gets rich.

 

[Tiervexx]

Piglets need to be better at assessing true "threats".
What was this guy going to do, break a table?

Are you trying to say that a 350lbs man on PCP is not a threat?!?!?! And that if on comes at you with the intent to kill you it is nothing to worry about?

 

[Tiervexx]

Do you think the government restrained Microsoft until very recently? Those assclowns at DOJ were using green-screen terminals when MS Windows dropped. Many of them still do.

Despite MS running rampant over the software industry, there are like 10000 other software companies. MS controls the PC market, but they fight hard in the server makrket and many other areas.

What MS did do was standardize things, so that all of your components work together,and is a big factor in making computers cheaper so everyoen can own one. Amazingly, the free market still allowed the growth of like 10000 software companies.

People complained about MS stifling competition, but did they? They either bought competitors, or scared competitors and then produced the products themselves. Some call the latter unethical (I do), but it still resulted in new products coming to market.

A better example might be Wal Mart, but people shop there in breathtaking numbers.

I don't buy CDs these days. Fewer and fewer people do. The RIAA and member companies controlled the distribution channels for decades, until free market ingenuity broke it. RIAA and member companies will have to scramble for a better model to compete. Amazingly, the market broke their price gouging strangehold, not laws. The RIAA screwed artists and fixed prices. Now they are getting demolished by free market innovation.

My ancestors did all kinds of stuff. Know what they are doing now? Being dead. And in my world, the living are not slaves to the dead.

Free markets work because the people decide who gets rich.

Would you agree with the following statement:

"Monopolies are a myth. Despite the widespread concern over them there is no such thing as a true monopoly, and there never will be one. There will always be competition to fit the constantly changing needs of people with technology."?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Are you trying to say that a 350lbs man on PCP is not a threat?!?!?! And that if on comes at you with the intent to kill you it is nothing to worry about?

Look, piglet work is not easy.

This guy was a walking time bomb - overweight, drugged up etc.

We can probably speculate with accuracy as to his criminal record, annual income, etc.

Nevertheless, it could have been handled better, no?

Police are rich people's way of using the middle class to clean up the poverty problem.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Would you agree with the following statement:

"Monopolies are a myth. Despite the widespread concern over them there is no such thing as a true monopoly, and there never will be one. There will always be competition to fit the constantly changing needs of people with technology."?

Sounds like a trap where I agree and then you pull out some study or something....LOL

Include a disclaimer about eliminating government intervention and I will agree with you.

I guess the closest thing there is to a real monopoly is the DeBeers diamond cartel, but it existed as it did because teh USSR agreed to hoard diamonds, so I guess eventhat had government intervention....

and now there are synthetics that are indisinguishable from real diamonds, so the market appears to have equalized that situation as well.....

 

[Warpath]

Dont pay attention to Tiervexx, hes just some stupid, opinionated kid.

 

[MICHAEL JACKSON]

It was worse than a lynching.

te he jamon

 

[Tiervexx]

Sounds like a trap where I agree and then you pull out some study or something....LOL

Include a disclaimer about eliminating government intervention and I will agree with you.

I guess the closest thing there is to a real monopoly is the DeBeers diamond cartel, but it existed as it did because teh USSR agreed to hoard diamonds, so I guess eventhat had government intervention....

and now there are synthetics that are indisinguishable from real diamonds, so the market appears to have equalized that situation as well.....

Wrong, it's not a trap at all. You seem to think I am liberal because I argue against universal morality and for abortion but I'm actually a libertarian so I am hoping you could give me some useful arguments against government intervention on the economy that I can use next time I argue with the liberals in my government class…

 

[Tiervexx]

Dont pay attention to Tiervexx, hes just some stupid, opinionated kid.

This is coming from someone who hates me because some fags played with his head a while ago. LOL.

 

[Tiervexx]

Look, piglet work is not easy.

This guy was a walking time bomb - overweight, drugged up etc.

We can probably speculate with accuracy as to his criminal record, annual income, etc.

Nevertheless, it could have been handled better, no?

I do wonder why they didn't use pepper spray. They do carry that with them right? That might have made it a lot easier on all parties involved but you know you might have ended up doing the same in that situation just like everyone else.

Police are rich people's way of using the middle class to clean up the poverty problem.

Sad but true.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

I do wonder why they didn't use pepper spray. They do carry that with them right? That might have made it a lot easier on all parties involved but you know you might have ended up doing the same in that situation just like everyone else.



Sad but true.

OC would have pissed him the fuck off, remember, he was hopped up on PCP and cocaine. Also OC spray gets messy and everywhere, and almost always on the officers themselves, therefore it wasn't a good time to use it, especially on that lumbering, crazed individual...

 

[Tiervexx]

OC would have pissed him the fuck off, remember, he was hopped up on PCP and cocaine. Also OC spray gets messy and everywhere, and almost always on the officers themselves, therefore it wasn't a good time to use it, especially on that lumbering, crazed individual...

Makes sence. For some reason I thought it worked better then that.

The cops did the right thing unless you can think of something else they could have done MattTheSkywalker.

 

[manny78]

In this case, the guy should have been "Tased". But honestly, the same thing would have happened here in Canada and the guy would still be dead. And oh, and unions are stricly forbidden for federal agents.

 

[Tiervexx]

In this case, the guy should have been "Tased". But honestly, the same thing would have happened here in Canada and the guy would still be dead. And oh, and unions are stricly forbidden for federal agents.

I've heard that you can get right back up after being tased, so it should be easy to ignore the thing when you are on PCP.

 

[manny78]

I've heard that you can get right back up after being tased, so it should be easy to ignore the thing when you are on PCP.

As long as the probes make contact, the Taser is pretty effective. Not saying it's the perfect tool nor it should be considered a replacement for handgun (hell nooooo), but a 1-2 seconds discharge is usually enough. OC spray would have done little in this case.

In these cases, just hit the guy 2-3 times on the knees with your baton. Once on the ground is no threat anymore.

 

[lucidblue]

well, for once I agree with you.

 

[IhateOsama]

As long as the probes make contact, the Taser is pretty effective. Not saying it's the perfect tool nor it should be considered a replacement for handgun (hell nooooo), but a 1-2 seconds discharge is usually enough. OC spray would have done little in this case.

In these cases, just hit the guy 2-3 times on the knees with your baton. Once on the ground is no threat anymore.

It's a good thing it didnt take place in Quebec.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

All you have to do is watch the video and you will see why the cops did nothing wrong.



The 350lb man had PCP in his blood. That alone exonerates the pigs. If any of you were there, you would have done the same thing. He attacked a police officer and tried to kill him.

I hate cops, but this time they were doing what they were supposed to be doing. Getting rid of society's trash.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104467,00.html

thicky i dont know about you, but im waiting for jesse jackson to get done up something like this. he's sure askin for it.

 

[manny78]

It's a good thing it didnt take place in Quebec.

The guy would have been shot. Here cops are fast on the trigger. Show off your one inch knife and they'll double tap you. A lot more hardcore than most people think.

 

[2Thick]

The guy would have been shot. Here cops are fast on the trigger. Show off your one inch knife and they'll double tap you. A lot more hardcore than most people think.

That is why I never trust a Quebec officer. They are scum the earth.

 

[DownUnder23]

2Thick, for once you and I are on the same page.

 

[Warpath]

Tiervexx is a male prostitute.

 

[Tiervexx]

Tiervexx is a male prostitute.

Is that really the best you could come up with?

 

[Heahy Minister]

Look, piglet work is not easy.

This guy was a walking time bomb - overweight, drugged up etc.

We can probably speculate with accuracy as to his criminal record, annual income, etc.

Nevertheless, it could have been handled better, no?

Police are rich people's way of using the middle class to clean up the poverty problem.

How could it have been handled better??

From the video it seemed like the drugged up guy came unexpectedly at the one cop. The TWO cops could barely contain this one man and were just reacting to someone simply overpowering them. The officer was striking him on the side, not on the head from the looks of things. Also, their blows did not seem full-force deadly.

It seems to me they handled the situation pretty well and did what they could to protect one another and contain the guy.

 

[Warpath]

Is that really the best you could come up with?

Tiervexx is a cheap male prostitute.

 

[chesty]

OMG, I don't believe you agree with the cops!


Well, I knew you would come around. But seriously, you are correct. Nate boy, was a fat ass, out a shape, pig with coke and pcp in his system, and enlarged heart and probably cholesterol from hell!

Plus, the PR-24 strikes were exactly where they are trained to strike, non-vital areas call pressure points and nerve junctions.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

Tiervexx is a cheap male prostitute.

pwned.

 

[anabolicmd]

Tiervexx is a cheap male prostitute.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!