Please help

[blackster1975]

Hi guys this is my second cycle of Gear and i dont want to crash and burn like i did after the first one so i'm doin a lot of research before hand this time round.

The thing is i'm planning a cycle which consists of 500mg of sust and 400mg of deca per week, the sust will be taken on sunday,tuesday,thursday, and saturday in 125mg doses and the deca on a tuesday and saturday in 200mg doses, i'm planning to stay on the deca for 10 weeks and sust for 12 tapering dwn to 250mg for last 2 weeks.

I'll also be running 20mg of nolva throughout the cycle and pct, but i'm now a bit lost as a aint done PCT b4 and dont what to do, please feel free to criticize my cycle and offer tips on how to improve it and any PCT help will be truely appreciated. Also will supplementing with glutamine or HMB after cycle help with blocking out the catabolic effect of the increased cortisone levels.

 

[Little B]

you could cut down on pokes and just do 250 mg sust 2x a week, go to pct forum on this site real good reads.

 

[silverbackn]

Agreed. Hit the PCT forum.

 

[Bruce]

firstly you should just do two shots of each compound a week. u can mix if you like so your only taking two shots a week period. you'll need hcg and nolva for pct. i recover very easily so i just do nolva 60mg ed for a week that 40mg ed for two more. i only use 500iu's of hcg every 3 days for two weeks and i am good. however, jenetic's sticky on pct is amazing, i just don't require that much hcg for my body. i still suggest you read, its in the post cyce therapy forum up top. my next cycle i will tell you i am gonna run hcg 250iu's a week with my gear so the balls never shrink at all. learned it from a friend who is quite large

 

[alltraps]

use clomid and nolva together for pct. you wont need nolva throughout that cycle

 

[krishna]

I personally would only shoot sust once a week. A lot of guys say twice, but I personally don't think it helps. At least go down to twice a week on your sust. No reason to stick that many times. Plus sust is a little on the painful side.

 

[alltraps]

I personally would only shoot sust once a week. A lot of guys say twice, but I personally don't think it helps. At least go down to twice a week on your sust. No reason to stick that many times. Plus sust is a little on the painful side.

shooting sust once a week is a waste. you;re completely wasting two of the esters in sust...prop and phenyl prop. so why bother. and why do you say sust is a little on the powerful side? 250 mg of sust gives you only about 180mg of raw test after you take away the weight of the esters, so in actuality, its weaker then any other single ester test

 

[krishna]

shooting sust once a week is a waste. you;re completely wasting two of the esters in sust...prop and phenyl prop. so why bother. and why do you say sust is a little on the powerful side? 250 mg of sust gives you only about 180mg of raw test after you take away the weight of the esters, so in actuality, its weaker then any other single ester test

I said painful side, not powerful side. And shooting sust only once a week doesn't waste anything. You're after the test levels, not the esters. The esters are combined that way to keep constant levels without having to inject that much. Sust was actually DESIGNED to be shot every 3-4 weeks. I did sust once a week for my first cycle and gained 28 pounds. After PCT and cutting back my diet to slim down, I kept 20 pounds solid. I know from experience that once a week is NOT a waste. I've gotten better results than most people who shoot twice a week.

 

[alltraps]

I said painful side, not powerful side. And shooting sust only once a week doesn't waste anything. You're after the test levels, not the esters. The esters are combined that way to keep constant levels without having to inject that much. Sust was actually DESIGNED to be shot every 3-4 weeks. I did sust once a week for my first cycle and gained 28 pounds. After PCT and cutting back my diet to slim down, I kept 20 pounds solid. I know from experience that once a week is NOT a waste. I've gotten better results than most people who shoot twice a week.

my bad dude, cant read. i did lots of sust in my time, and EOD shots worked best for me, mind you, i do high doses

 

[Joe Stenson]

Sust was actually DESIGNED to be shot every 3-4 weeks. I did sust once a week for my first cycle and gained 28 pounds.

I have to say I agree here. I ran sust only, shooting only once/week, as my first cycle and gained quite nicely.

Now, to be honest, I don't know if the results could have been better shooting more often, but it's not like you're wasting the gear.