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Please help with soreness/gyno just starting

Para_Shoot

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I am on only 200mg cyp every 7 days for about a month now. I have been using Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain for two months now diligently. I am starting to get sore nipples and tiny lumps starting. I guess the Dermacrine isn't enough of an inhibitor for me, why, I don't know.

Taking into account that I'm only cruising on 200mg cyp every 7 days:

What would be one of the standard aromataise inhibitors or SERM's that I should take in the LOWEST possible dose as to not suppress my sex life, but to keep the soreness and tiny lumps at bay?
 
ive been there and done that so i recomend

aromasin 12.5mg stacked with 20mg nolva until it subsides...then cut the nolva in half and run that stack EOD thru your cycle

dont listen to letro this letro that blah blah blah
 
I'm in the letrozole blah, blah, blah camp.

I had gyno issues for years. Arimidex and Aromasin would keep it from getting worse while on cycle but when I finally tried letrozole I was able to reverse the process and completely get rid of lumps I'd had for 3 years.

1mg/day should be enough to keep you gyno free at 200mg/wk.
 
search EF on raloxifene to bring up alot of relevant threads discussing studies done using SERMS to reverse existing gyno.

as a side note, 200mg EW of test cyp is not much more than a replacement dose for whatever thats worth (about 150 human grade would be replacement, so assuming inferior UG 200 is about comparable)- and you would only have started to get to max stable blood levels in the last 3 weeks or so. something to consider.
 
I would go for nolva and either adex or aromasin pronto...

with that low a dose you are definitly gyno prone, so strong anti e's are going to be a must 4 you...
 
Mavafanculo said:
search EF on raloxifene to bring up alot of relevant threads discussing studies done using SERMS to reverse existing gynecomastia.

as a side note, 200mg EW of test testosterone cypionate is not much more than a replacement dose for whatever thats worth (about 150 human grade would be replacement, so assuming inferior UG 200 is about comparable)- and you would only have started to get to max stable blood levels in the last 3 weeks or so. something to consider.



Actually, thats what I am doing. My own HRT with 150~200mg cyp a week. I was on for 2 years straight, 4 months ago I ended that and tried PCT for 3 sold months and no dice, nothing improved so I'm just staying on an HRT dose of cyp. During that 2 year run I was using Arimadex, so I never had gyno troubles, but I had NO sex drive. Well, now after trying PCT and just going on my own HRT my drive is full back, so that is why I want to use some kind of inhibitor in the least amount that would stop the soreness but not affect sex drive.
 
Para_Shoot said:
Actually, thats what I am doing. My own HRT with 150~200mg testosterone cypionate a week. I was on for 2 years straight, 4 months ago I ended that and tried PCT - post cycle therapy - for 3 sold months and no dice, nothing improved so I'm just staying on an HRT dose of testosterone cypionate. During that 2 year run I was using Arimadex, so I never had gynecomastia troubles, but I had NO sex drive. Well, now after trying PCT and just going on my own HRT my drive is full back, so that is why I want to use some kind of inhibitor in the least amount that would stop the soreness but not affect sex drive.

dont give up on recovery - here's some info on industrial strenght p.ct

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html

as for the gyno, as I said search on raloxifene here for some threads discussing studies on using serms etc to reduce existing gyno.

nolva has the possibiliy of reducing libido in some, but it isnt as common as with aromatase inhibitors becaus ethe mechanism of action is different.

the anti-a's can pratically eliminate E althogether. E is neccessary for normal libido and function. thus the problem.

the serms like nolva/clomid/raloxifene dont prevent the formation of E, just block it at the breast tissue receptors. and nolva/raloxifene have been proven in double blind studies to reverse existing gyno lumps
 
Definately take something every dat to help with the estrogen. Either one of the above that has already been mentioned or maybe 25mg/day of proviron.
 
I got sor nipps 2 wks ago..turned to lumps in 2 days...Started running serms..only had Clomid ( nolva on the way).. Started 100mg 4 days then dropped 50mg...it's been 6 days..No sorness at all, and lump is going..but still puffy around nip. it is working !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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