Please help me with my PCT

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

My cycle was: test enanth 250 mg a wk. 10 wks (schering primoteeston). & var 8 wks at 30 mg (denkall). HCG. Used 500 ui's a wk splited in two 250 uis shots of HCG trough my cylce.

Right now I am at one week after last test shot.

My Idea of PCT since I used the HCG trough my cylce to mantain testicular size was:

One week after last test shot: 500 ui's HCG EOD for 10 days , then start clomid or nolvadex standard PCT (I have both, what would you recomend?).
I already injected 500 ui`s yesterday

Does this PCT sounds right to ya?

By the way: cycle results soo far... up 20 lbs, it is my first cycle and it rocks! did not use any nolva or anti -e at all.

thanks bros, Karma to everyone!

 

[crfpilot14]

start the HCG at 500IU this coming Monday, then again on Wed and Fri. do this for 2wks along with 20mg of nolva ed. you can increase the nolva to 40mg the middle 2wks of the 6 wk PCT. so basically it will look like this:

HCG 500IU MWF for 2wks along with 20mg nolva ed. after stopping the HCG, increase the nolva to 40mg ed for the next 2wks, then back down to 20mg for the last 2wks. there are many ways to do this but the above works. get your levels checked 2wks after ending PCT. you probably do not even need anymore HCG with this cycle but if you want to use it then use the above method. you can even run 250IU instead of 500 if you are running low...nice gains. post some before and after pics.

 

[Mr. Black]

Seeing as you have been using HCg throughout the cycle there really is no point to inculude in your PCT (unless of course there is visible atrophy). Plus, HCG is suppressive anyways so you would be further delaying your recovery. I would run the Nolva20mgperday/Clomid50mgperday combo immediately for 6 weeks as already suggested.

 

[crfpilot14]

he is only a wk out from his last test shot. no reason to start the PCT now. i would wait a week before starting.

 

[help4john]

Seeing as you have been using HCg throughout the cycle there really is no point to inculude in your PCT (unless of course there is visible atrophy). Plus, HCG is suppressive anyways so you would be further delaying your recovery. I would run the Nolva20mgperday/Clomid50mgperday combo immediately for 6 weeks as already suggested.

Good advice as always.....just start second week after last shot. Some may say that Clomid is not really necessary....but better safe than sorry (personal preference).

Good solid cycle....glad to see that it was well planned and yielded excellent results!

 

[Pappichulo]

When is the best time to take your nolv & clom?

 

[crfpilot14]

Good advice as always.....just start second week after last shot. Some may say that Clomid is not really necessary....but better safe than sorry (personal preference).

Good solid cycle....glad to see that it was well planned and yielded excellent results!

you should be more consistent in your posts. most of the time you back jenetics regimen which you say works great for you, and now since this guy has posted about using clomid/nolva you agree (from personal experience). i think all the ass-kissing is hilarious on this site. kinda like pack mentality. the weaker males are submissive to the alpha male(s)...in this case the mods and guys with large post counts. if you are offended by my comments then i am sorry. you really dont know ones background by chatting with them on a message board. people giving the advice many times should only state what they have done in the past and what has worked/not worked. but, the guys who could help the most would rather flame a person for asking questions than answer them. you say do a search? have you tried searching without a platinum membership? PITA. easier to ask and get flamed. maybe someone will answer. so h4j, i have read many of your posts and you provide solid info...i just had to bust your balls on this one.

 

[help4john]

you should be more consistent in your posts. most of the time you back jenetics regimen which you say works great for you, and now since this guy has posted about using clomid/nolva you agree (from personal experience). i think all the ass-kissing is hilarious on this site. kinda like pack mentality. the weaker males are submissive to the alpha male(s)...in this case the mods and guys with large post counts. if you are offended by my comments then i am sorry. you really dont know ones background by chatting with them on a message board. people giving the advice many times should only state what they have done in the past and what has worked/not worked. but, the guys who could help the most would rather flame a person for asking questions than answer them. you say do a search? have you tried searching without a platinum membership? PITA. easier to ask and get flamed. maybe someone will answer. so h4j, i have read many of your posts and you provide solid info...i just had to bust your balls on this one.

Young, dumb, and full of cum!

You are correct....I am a big fan of Jenetic's PCT. My recommendation on this thread was case specific. We have two problems:

1) Ran HCG throughout cycle
2) Low dosage of gear

No point in using HCG for PCT. Testicular size must have remained steady throughout cycle....since HCG was used 2X EW. I will only use HCG mid cycle for 2 weeks and again one week after last inject. Unfortunately...he didn't follow this....so I have to play the hand that is dealt. If he didn't run HCG throughout cycle....I would have recommended this at the onset of PCT.

You can reread Jenetic's PCT plan....but I recall that he recommends Clomid for OVER 500-600mg EW cycles. Been a while since I've run one that small. With this low dosage....he will get some benefit from Clomid...but again, some think this may be unnecessary. I would personally run it anyways....but that's just me.

Clarified? If not....pounce away!

PS: Submissive???? Who's your Daddy?!?!?!?!?!?

 

[crfpilot14]

you da man... its hard to give solid advice after the fact though. he had already finished his cycle and was 1wk out from last shot. not a good time to be researching PCT! but i see your point. i actually think that HCG + AI should be a PCT staple. i will use this method on my next cycle and post before and after labwork. plan to start in march...

 

[PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch]

THANK YOU GUYS, AS ALWAYS YOU ROCK! I will post my pics as soon as I get the chance.
by the way, this was my first cycle, I am about to start PCT I will send feedback when I`m done.
Karma to ya all !