Please critique this cutting cycle bros

[Cal_21]

I posted a while ago with my proposed first cycle. I have since changed my mind and decided a cutting cycle would benefit my body type more. I am already pretty big (5'11 258) ~13-14%. I've been lifting for several years now consistently. I'm looking to push my body longer and more often while fending off a catabolic state. Optimal goal would be fat loss while maintaining/increasing strength & muscle. Not looking to get huge, I want to get hardened & vascular.

Proposed Cycle:

Testosterone Propionate 100mg EOD Wks 1-10
Anavar 30-40 mg ED Wks 1-4
HCG Wks 2-10 500iu EW & Wks 11-13 1000iu E5D's
Arimidex 0.5 EW Wks 2-10
Nolvadex 40mg ED for 2 wks 20mg ED for the next 2 weeks (starting 4 days after Test P is discontinued) Maybe Femera on hand in case if Gyno pops up mid-cycle?
& Nizoral shampoo lol

I've read a lot of good things about Masterone, Primobolan, Equipoise... however this being my first cycle I figure I should keep it simpler. In the future I'd like to incorporate these into a cycle. Thanks a lot guys any advice would be much appreciated.

 

[holy ghost]

bump the anavar up

dont think youll have gyno issues but letro is a must have in your aresenal ANYWAY.

save the more aggressive compounds for later cycles

 

[xrsist]

start var at 60mg ED and run it the length of the cycle. are you sure you want EOD injections?

 

[Cal_21]

bump the anavar up

dont think youll have gynecomastia issues but Femera - letrozole - is a must have in your aresenal ANYWAY.

save the more aggressive compounds for later cycles

What dosage would you recommend for the Var? I've read up to 80 is tolerable because it's supposed to be pretty low as far as liver toxicity goes. I want to find a happy medium though being a virgin and all. lol

 

[Cal_21]

start Anavar - oxandrolone - at 60mg ED and run it the length of the cycle. are you sure you want EOD injections?

Will do w/ the var. I like the idea of Test E 250 mgs/Wk. But I keep reading that TEST P is better for cutting because of less bloat (don't need anymore of that haha) Also if worse comes to worse and I respond poorly to test I like the idea of the Test P clearing faster if I need to stop taking it abruptly. Maybe I'm just being paranoid though, not sure.

 

[xrsist]

Will do w/ the Anavar - oxandrolone - . I like the idea of testosterone enanthate 250 mgs/Wk. But I keep reading that TEST P is better for cutting because of less bloat (don't need anymore of that haha) Also if worse comes to worse and I respond poorly to test I like the idea of the Test P clearing faster if I need to stop taking it abruptly. Maybe I'm just being paranoid though, not sure.

yer your being a little paranoid i think bro, run the enath and an AI like adex to get rid of the bloat, thats even if you do bloat and i highly doubt you will on 250mg a week.

 

[Cal_21]

I was also wondering if my PCT is on point/not enough/overkill. I've heard guys talk about dermacrine sustain for pct. Not sure what that would replace...the HCG maybe?

 

[goku_kakarot77]

I posted a while ago with my proposed first cycle. I have since changed my mind and decided a cutting cycle would benefit my body type more. I am already pretty big (5'11 258) ~13-14%. I've been lifting for several years now consistently. I'm looking to push my body longer and more often while fending off a catabolic state. Optimal goal would be fat loss while maintaining/increasing strength & muscle. Not looking to get huge, I want to get hardened & vascular.

Proposed Cycle:

Testosterone Propionate 100mg EOD Wks 1-10
Anavar 30-40 mg ED Wks 1-4
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - Wks 2-10 500iu EW & Wks 11-13 1000iu E5D's
Arimidex 0.5 EW Wks 2-10
Nolvadex 40mg ED for 2 wks 20mg ED for the next 2 weeks (starting 4 days after Test P is discontinued) Maybe Femera on hand in case if gynecomastia pops up mid-cycle?
& Nizoral shampoo lol

I've read a lot of good things about Masterone, Primobolan, Equipoise... however this being my first cycle I figure I should keep it simpler. In the future I'd like to incorporate these into a cycle. Thanks a lot guys any advice would be much appreciated.

if you really want to get cut hard and vascular do this cycle,
test p /tren a/masteron at 100mgs each eod of 50mgs each ed with the adex and var at 50mgs for the first 4 weeks , then you will have amazing results, this is a favorite precontest stack, going to start this in a few weeks

 

[xrsist]

being your first cycle and your only gona run 250mg a week hcg would be required as long as your balls dont shrink. use clomid and derma sustain for pct

 

[Cal_21]

being your first cycle and your only gona run 250mg a week HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - would be required as long as your balls dont shrink. use clomid and derma sustain for PCT - post cycle therapy -

When would I start the Derma?

 

[xrsist]

if you really want to get cut hard and vascular do this cycle,
test p /trenbolone a/masteron at 100mgs each eod of 50mgs each ed with the Arimidex - anastrozole - and Anavar - oxandrolone - at 50mgs for the first 4 weeks , then you will have amazing results, this is a favorite precontest stack, going to start this in a few weeks

prop/tren/mast for a first cycle .... uh iv had enough of this tonight...

 

[xrsist]

When would I start the Derma?

you will have to find out exactly from needto or pp, maybe start this the day after last shot then start clomid 2 weeks after last shot... needto...

 

[Cal_21]

you will have to find out exactly from needto or pp, maybe start this the day after last shot then start clomid 2 weeks after last shot... needto...

Ok bro, thanks for all the help

 

[halfcenturian]

testosterone propionate/trenbolone/mast for a first cycle .... uh iv had enough of this tonight...

BUMP TTT !!!

That combo is the shitnit. Toss in some var, T3, GH.
You will look like your body has been liposuctioned. Best combo for cutting.
you could add a little more Tren A too. And keep lifting heavy 6-8 rep level.

 

[xrsist]

what they fuck is wrong with some of these cunts tonight? its a first cycle, stop smoking crack and read his fucking post

 

[hesnobradpitt]

BUMP TTT !!!

That combo is the shitnit. Toss in some Anavar - oxandrolone - , T3, gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - .
You will look like your body has been liposuctioned. Best combo for cutting.
you could add a little more trenbolone A too. And keep lifting heavy 6-8 rep level.

Yes it is a nice stack but the guy is cutting with his first cycle so there
must be a high bf% and i dont think he should use gh & t3 in his first run
,get yourself a good cutting diet and work on cardio more with test ,if
you carnt do it with test some things wrong .
Brad.

 

[xrsist]

Yes it is a nice stack but the guy is cutting with his first cycle so there
must be a high bf% and i dont think he should use gh - growth hormone (somatropin) - & t3 in his first run
,get yourself a good cutting diet and work on cardio more with test ,if
you carnt do it with test some things wrong .
Brad.

once again good advise bro

 

[needtogetaas]

what they fuck is wrong with some of these cunts tonight? its a first cycle, stop smoking crack and read his fucking post

ya good post bro one of the better new guys around here.

 

[Cal_21]

ya good post bro one of the better new guys around here.

Thanks bro. I'm glad I stumbled across elitefitness. I can see myself being here a long time. Such a wealth of information that I'd never find in the gym.

 

[Cal_21]

bump

 

[raider187]

Thanks bro. I'm glad I stumbled across elitefitness. I can see myself being here a long time. Such a wealth of information that I'd never find in the gym.

Word...


Test_Prop and Var would be a great first cycle IMO...

In my opinion the short acting test-esters and VAR would great for a 8wk stint. I'm a big fan of the short cycle school, I also believe that you should start slow and only do what you feel comfortable with. Make sure EVERYTHING is in check before your start.

My .02

Raider187

 

[goku_kakarot77]

if you really want to get cut hard and vascular do this cycle,
test p /trenbolone a/masteron at 100mgs each eod of 50mgs each ed with the Arimidex - anastrozole - and Anavar - oxandrolone - at 50mgs for the first 4 weeks , then you will have amazing results, this is a favorite precontest stack, going to start this in a few weeks

this stack is the ultimate cutter but i forgot that it shouldnt be for a first

my bad

 

[Cal_21]

this stack is the ultimate cutter but i forgot that it shouldnt be for a first

my bad

No worries dude. Any and all advice is welcomed. I've been reading enough to know the difference. That stack is one that sounds very good & contains chems I'm very curious about for future use. For now I need to keep it simple still. Thanks for offering up your suggestion.

 

[Cal_21]

Bumppppp

 

[mattdan]

testosterone propionate/trenbolone/mast for a first cycle .... uh iv had enough of this tonight...

I about fell out of my chair on that one. Tren for a newbie? Don't think so.

xrist is right on as usual.

As far as the clomid, remember that clo is very cheap so have plenty on hand. I'm very old school with the clomid personally so I take it thru much of a cycle.

I often take it 2 or 3 times a week starting around week 3 at 50mg or 25mg.

It works very well at keeping the balls from shrinking and nat test production up.

Clomid use and dosing is personal and varies from person to person.

Personally, I think much of the reason clomid has gotten somewhat of a bad rep is b/c of all the liquid stuff and IP stuff and such.

I ONLY used legit pharma grade clomid and I find it works fantastic.

 

[Cal_21]

I about fell out of my chair on that one. trenbolone for a newbie? Don't think so.

xrist is right on as usual.

As far as the clomid, remember that clo is very cheap so have plenty on hand. I'm very old school with the clomid personally so I take it thru much of a cycle.

I often take it 2 or 3 times a week starting around week 3 at 50mg or 25mg.

It works very well at keeping the balls from shrinking and nat test production up.

Clomid use and dosing is personal and varies from person to person.

Personally, I think much of the reason clomid has gotten somewhat of a bad rep is b/c of all the liquid stuff and IP stuff and such.

I ONLY used legit pharma grade clomid and I find it works fantastic.

I was planning on getting the sachets of clomid so I could get everything @ once. Would it be effective? Increased sides as opposed to tabs?

 

[enacer420nj]

I was planning on getting the sachets of clomid so I could get everything @ once. Would it be effective? Increased sides as opposed to tabs?

Should be the same bro, I use AG guys clomid, sometimes im a ltitle moody or depressed on clomid but loads are out of this world, orgasms too

 

[Cal_21]

Should be the same bro, I use AG guys clomid, sometimes im a ltitle moody or depressed on clomid but loads are out of this world, orgasms too

I might go with A-G guys. Now that I think about it I might want to keep the # of sachets sent low. 3-4 sachets of clomid on top of the test & orals definitely won't make me anymore inconspicuous lol.