please critique my 4th cycle (bulker)

[wrestlemania100]

weeks 1-4 dbol 40 mgs ED
weeks 1-4 Test P 100 mgs ED (front loading test e)
weeks 1-16 Test E 1000 mgs EW
weeks 1-16 EQ 400 mgs ED
weeks 1-8 Tren Ace 420 mgs EW
weeks 12-18 winny 50 mgs ED
weeks 16-18 Test P 140 mgs ED

PCT-Day 1 front load clomid 300 mgs
Days 2-11 clomid 100 mgs ED
11-21 clomid 50 mgs ED
HCG to be ran 250 IU E4D threw out the cycle

height 6'2
weight 247 lbs
body fat 12 %

iv'e done 2 bulk cycles and one cutting cycle before this one

 

[Bigpimpin10]

wow thats huge cycle..i have no idea what to say!! haha im not that experienced yet
get your hands no the PCT RECOVERY STACK ...sustain alpha awesome PCT products

 

[C Manson]

thats one big arse cycle for it only being your forth...u sure u need that much?

what did your other 3 look like?

 

[Chrisco915]

Beat me too it. That is one big ass 4th cycle.

 

[kidd73]

Daaaamn! Get some biggin! You sure aren't giving your liver much rest with that cycle. I'm not telling you what to do, but I would think about what the effects of each of those compounds are/does before running that cycle.
I know a former pro BB'er who is still jacked but he is yellow. Yes, yellow. He told me his biggest regret was overdoing the orals b/c they fucked up his liver bad.
Just sayin'....if you're not competing, you may wanna think twice.

 

[sparkie34]

going pretty heavy on the overall test usage in the first 4 weeks. think you need that much and is it worth the sides?

 

[HAYEZ]

weeks 1-4 dbol 40 mgs ED
weeks 1-4 Test P 100 mgs ED (front loading test e)
weeks 1-16 Test E 1000 mgs EW
weeks 1-16 EQ 400 mgs ED
weeks 1-8 Tren Ace 420 mgs EW
weeks 12-18 winny 50 mgs ED
weeks 16-18 Test P 140 mgs ED

PCT-Day 1 front load clomid 300 mgs
Days 2-11 clomid 100 mgs ED
11-21 clomid 50 mgs ED
HCG to be ran 250 IU E4D threw out the cycle

height 6'2
weight 247 lbs
body fat 12 %

iv'e done 2 bulk cycles and one cutting cycle before this one

u ment ew on the 400 eq right?>

i would swtich the eq for deca run it 1-14 but thats just me! everything else looks good! sutff your face with as much quality food as possible and you should get great results!

 

[HAYEZ]

Daaaamn! Get some biggin! You sure aren't giving your liver much rest with that cycle. I'm not telling you what to do, but I would think about what the effects of each of those compounds are/does before running that cycle.
I know a former pro BB'er who is still jacked but he is yellow. Yes, yellow. He told me his biggest regret was overdoing the orals b/c they fucked up his liver bad.
Just sayin'....if you're not competing, you may wanna think twice.

whats harsh liver wise?
dbol for 4 weeks a break then 6 weeks winny at end...very cautious actually!
tren is not liver toxic as some like to say..thers no proof of it..i had liver checked after 10 weeks of tren and nothing was elevated

 

[HAYEZ]

going pretty heavy on the overall test usage in the first 4 weeks. think you need that much and is it worth the sides?

test wont kick in for 3-5 weeks...he may be putting 1700 mg a week in ..but hes not gonna be geting sides off the 1700..i klickstart every cycle with prop instead of orals

 

[sparkie34]

test wont kick in for 3-5 weeks...he may be putting 1700 mg a week in ..but hes not gonna be geting sides off the 1700..i klickstart every cycle with prop instead of orals

Right, but he is running dbol to kick start so i was wondering why so much test.

 

[kidd73]

whats harsh liver wise?
dbol for 4 weeks a break then 6 weeks winny at end...very cautious actually!
tren is not liver toxic as some like to say..thers no proof of it..i had liver checked after 10 weeks of tren and nothing was elevated

I agree it's good he has a break between the Dbol & the winny, but why just throw in another compound? Each steroid has unique benefits, but does that mean you should run one of everything to get the best results?? No offense to you b/c I have seen your cycles and I'm sure they work for you, but when someone comes on here and says for my 4th cycle I'm going to do Dbol, test prop, test E, EQ, Deca & winny...it makes you scratch your head a bit.
Perhaps I look at things differently. I see life and cycles as a marathon. Im looking for quality, realistic gains each time knowing (hoping) there will be another cycle. I don't need to become Arnold in one cycle only to become Mr Shriveled afterwards.

 

[sweed]

ya take a look at the new pct products.
got any pics?

 

[HAYEZ]

I agree it's good he has a break between the Dbol & the winny, but why just throw in another compound? Each steroid has unique benefits, but does that mean you should run one of everything to get the best results?? No offense to you b/c I have seen your cycles and I'm sure they work for you, but when someone comes on here and says for my 4th cycle I'm going to do Dbol, test prop, test E, EQ, Deca & winny...it makes you scratch your head a bit.
Perhaps I look at things differently. I see life and cycles as a marathon. Im looking for quality, realistic gains each time knowing (hoping) there will be another cycle. I don't need to become Arnold in one cycle only to become Mr Shriveled afterwards.

hes doing test tren and eq...dbol to start and winny to end..would it make it better if he used dbol to start and end? or winny to start and end? just because hes throwing a few compounds in means nothing. the first 4 weeks are waiting so hes using prop.(which is no difference in someone useing sust which has more forms of test)..the last few weeks hes using prop to clear his system of the long esters...i think he put it together pretty well...all of his doses are on the safe side and nothign overboard...the test may be a bit high for some people but many do a gram a wk with no issues at all

 

[kidd73]

hes doing test tren and eq...dbol to start and winny to end..would it make it better if he used dbol to start and end? or winny to start and end? just because hes throwing a few compounds in means nothing. the first 4 weeks are waiting so hes using prop.(which is no difference in someone useing sust which has more forms of test)..the last few weeks hes using prop to clear his system of the long esters...i think he put it together pretty well...all of his doses are on the safe side and nothign overboard...the test may be a bit high for some people but many do a gram a wk with no issues at all

And such is the beauty of this board & forum. He posted up his cycle, asked for opinions, and got 'em. That's why we're here.

 

[HAYEZ]

And such is the beauty of this board & forum. He posted up his cycle, asked for opinions, and got 'em. That's why we're here.

 

[79steeler]

He's a big dude, I think he'll be just fine. I would either double the dose of equipoise or switch to the deca like hayez said. If the sides get too bad then he can alway's cut back.

Some bro's don't really get sides from test. I know I don't really seem to be effected that much at 500mgs a week test E. I'm running 750mg/wk sust. and no sides at all. This guy's 247lbs. thats a big bro.

 

[HAYEZ]

He's a big dude, I think he'll be just fine. I would either double the dose of equipoise or switch to the deca like hayez said. If the sides get too bad then he can alway's cut back.

Some bro's don't really get sides from test. I know I don't really seem to be effected that much at 500mgs a week test E. I'm running 750mg/wk sust. and no sides at all. This guy's 247lbs. thats a big bro.

ur correct..alot of people run a gram with no bloat no sides...i use ,.25 adex eod for a gram and i see many useign a 1mg of adex a day for 500 test ..who knows why

 

[kidd73]

He's a big dude, I think he'll be just fine. I would either double the dose of equipoise or switch to the deca like hayez said. If the sides get too bad then he can alway's cut back.

Some bro's don't really get sides from test. I know I don't really seem to be effected that much at 500mgs a week test E. I'm running 750mg/wk sust. and no sides at all. This guy's 247lbs. thats a big bro.

The only side effect of the test E Im about to run is going to be the harpoon I'll need to run it. Shit is thick!

 

[silent says]

I think the tren would be sweet at the last 8 weeks instead of front.
Silent

 

[champion]

i like it.......just watch the bp (taurine).......and if your worried about liver at all use a little milk thistle
a thought....since you have the tren ace and test prop....forget the dbol...........the tren/test will kick start you enough.
other than that it looks like a fun ride

 

[Bigpimpin10]

what do guys think of his pct? isnt 200mg/ed of clomid really high or is it okay since hes running alot?

 

[champion]

dont know never done pct

 

[Bigpimpin10]

ed means everyday...

eod means every other day..

 

[Chrisco915]

I like to come to EF ED.
I like to inject Prop EOD.