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boz44

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31 years old, 5'11", 170lbs, been lifting for 12 years, took deca cycle 10 years ago, took winstrol pills 5 years ago, around 10-12% bf. Usually I weigh anywhere from 190 - 210. However, in the last year I had shoulder surgery (which is 70% recovered), and still have a herniated disc in lower back. So my lifting and diet have taken a back seat.

Ready to start putting the muscle back on. I am going to have to just fight through the back pain. Right now I an taking a shit load Ultram to get by. I was going to start a cycle of deca and winstrol. But, after reading for days on this site, I am having second thoughts. I got great gains and no side effects when I took the Deca in college. I think the Winstrol pills I was taking were junk. I couldn't tell squat.

I am open to anything. What would you guys suggest? If you could take anything regardless of price, what would it be? Of course a huge concern is the side effects. If you could also list what to take to combat the particular drugs side effects.

Thanks a ton. I appreciate anyone who will take the time to help a bro out.
 
What are your goals?


Is size the most imprtant thing?


There are all kinds of aas they all have there good side and bad sides
 
If you are thinking AS, bro you should really include a test based drug. Sounds like you like deca so stick with what works.
If your asking what I would take, regardless of price, here goes: This is what I am running currently BTW :)
5 i.u.'s ed HGH for 30 weeks
60mcgs of IGF-1LR3 ed on 1month off 1month for 6 months
8 weeks of test cypionate@1g/week, Eq@600mgs/week then...
8 weeks of sustonon@1g/week, tren ace@100mgs ed
3 squirts of AIFM for anti E. (Im a big fan of AIFM, 0 bad sides so far)
At 31 the HGH should work wonders for you.
Good Luck
 
DieselGunz said:
What are your goals?


Is size the most imprtant thing?


There are all kinds of aas they all have there good side and bad sides

I would say , yes , size is most important. Strength will be limited due to injuries. Don't care about being ripped right now, summer just ended here in Missouri! I'm not saying I want to swell up and have my face look like I got stung by bee's or anything. But size is what I'm after.
 
Ok

Well for size and overall well being

test/deca/tbol or dbol


You said u like deca so stay with that the test will help solidify gains and help with libido

The tbol/dbol will kick start the cycle and get into the flow of things


This is a basic tried and true cycle cant go wrong with it now u can go and get all crazy with compounds but NOTHING works better then the meat and potoes of aas.
 
DieselGunz said:
Ok

Well for size and overall well being

test/deca/tbol or dbol


You said u like deca so stay with that the test will help solidify gains and help with libido

The tbol/dbol will kick start the cycle and get into the flow of things


This is a basic tried and true cycle cant go wrong with it now u can go and get all crazy with compounds but NOTHING works better then the meat and potoes of aas.

What dosages? Also, how long do I do it? Which Anti Side Effect stuff do you recommend? Which test? Sorry for the dumb questions, just trying to narrow this stuff down.
 
well it depends on alot of factors, BUt

test 500/deca 400 for 10-12 weeks
dbol-30mgs
tbol-40mgs

For sides aromasin/nolva/dex

I like enanthate but you can use cypinate also.

no problem ask away.
 
DieselGunz said:
well it depends on alot of factors, BUt

test 500/deca 400 for 10-12 weeks
dbol-30mgs
tbol-40mgs

For sides aromasin/nolva/dex

I like enanthate but you can use cypinate also.

no problem ask away.

Thanks. Have you done this particular stack? I have a local guy that can get me the deca and the test. I don't think he can get me dbol or tbol. I haven't learned enough on how to find a good source online yet. Would it be ok to skip them or should I wait til I find some? Also, do you take the aromasin/nolva/dex during or after? I know I have to study some more on the post cycle treatment, but can't those be ordered legally here in the US?
 
boz44 said:
Thanks. Have you done this particular stack? I have a local guy that can get me the deca and the test. I don't think he can get me dbol or tbol. I haven't learned enough on how to find a good source online yet. Would it be ok to skip them or should I wait til I find some? Also, do you take the aromasin/nolva/dex during or after? I know I have to study some more on the post cycle treatment, but can't those be ordered legally here in the US?


No I have test/eq on hand but I know alot of people that sware by that stack.

You can run the test/deca alone but it is wise to kick start it with a oral.

aromasin/dex is during the cycle, nolva is as needed

PCT would be nolva/hgc/clomid
 
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