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Planning a Cycle

Improvise

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I am planning on running my first cycle within the next year and would like some advice and help.

I am 22 (will be 23 by then), 5'8" 180, 13% body fat, have been lifting for 5 years.

I want to gain 15-20pounds of lean, hard muscle. If I can decrease my body fat through cardio and a clean diet of about 3k - 4k cals then even better.

I have a friend who recently came off a 10 week Sust 300 cycle and he made incredible gains. Gained 20 while on, lost about 5 since he's been off but his gains were perfect (IMO). He packed on very noticeable mass while decreasing body fat and becoming VERY vascular. I was never into Sust till I saw his transformation before my very own eyes.

So now I'm wondering if I should do Sus 250/300 or Test Enanthate 250. Price does not matter to me right now, just want as much general info as possible.

My main concerns are bloating, gyno, any other sides, and keeping my gains. I hope that this will be the only cycle I do, so I want to get the most out of it and keep as much of it as I can.

Cycle A: 10 weeks
Sus 250 - M/W/F

Cycle B: 10 weeks
Test Enanthate 250 - M/Th

For PCT I have nolvadex and clomid on hand but will most likely buy the PCT stack stickied on the board.

I am also thinking about stacking Equipose with EITHER of these. Is one better than the other to stack Eq with or would it be a waste to stack Eq with these for my first cycle?

Again, my main concern is bloating and water retention. I want very dry and lean gains as well as increased vascularity.

Thanks for the help.
 
take test for sure, but have an ai to get rid of bloat like arimidex or aromasin. EQ would be good to stack, gets u vascular.
 
hehateme000 said:
take test for sure, but have an ai to get rid of bloat like arimidex or aromasin. EQ would be good to stack, gets u vascular.

By Test I'm assuming you mean Enanthate and not the Sustanon.

400 mg of Eq for 10 weeks as well? I've read that the Test should be run for 2 weeks longer than Eq. Any truth to that and what are the benefits of that?

So then it would look like:

Sustanon 250 - M/W/F - 12 weeks
Equipose 200 - M/Th - 10 weeks
 
GUARDIAN said:
Cycle B.

Do not run EQ!

Have an AI on hand.

Can I ask why not to run Eq?

Will have armidex on hand. I do not want any bloat at all, while it will reduce gains, do you think it's a terrible idea to run the AI for the majority of the cycle?
 
Hey were similar in stats.Doing just the Sus cycle will show you great gains. I did a 200 test c and 300 eq and got great results. Stay low on the test for your first cycle have your pct and also maybe consider d bol instead of EQ. Anyways good luck.
 
Improvise said:
Can I ask why not to run Eq?

Will have armidex on hand. I do not want any bloat at all, while it will reduce gains, do you think it's a terrible idea to run the AI for the majority of the cycle?

4 a first cycle it is unecessary.

AI could potentially reduce gains but hardly anything worth noting imo. it is not a bad idea to run an AI the majoirty of the time. it is actually recommended for all but the advanced user.

.25-.5,g eod for adex
 
keep first cycle simple as possible. one shot once a week of test e for 10-12 weeks will be fine. see how your body reacts to being "on". You will learn a lot about how you feel etc during this basic cycle. You can progress with more AAS in next cycle. Keep the first one simple.
 
Ok thanks for the input.

I know this probably sounds a bit naive, but I don't know if I want to do another cycle after this. I want this to be the only cycle that I ever do so I want to get the best results possible, obviously.

And I know I say this now but once I'm off I will be jonesin for another cycle.
 
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