Phentermine vs. Clen

[Redux]

Just got a line on Phentermine and want to know if it worth exploiting. Took a "tester" and the shit sure felt intense, but I want to know if actually increases liposis, or simply supresses appetite.

How does it fit into the whole ECA < Clen < DNP continuum?

I have some clen, but I feel like a zombie on it, so if it is just as good, that is an upside for me.

 

[marshallmadman]

You have to compare similar products. In my opinion, these two drugs aren't even similar. Guys, am I wrong here? Bumping for more info. Have you looked into Meridia?

 

[Tux]

They're not the same class of drugs, so you can't compare them that way. One is a bronchiodialator, clen, and phentermine is a synthetic amphetamine derivative, like ritalin but weaker. I've used both, and for my purposes phentermine was far and away the better drug for fat loss. However, I had asthma as a child and used a LOT of albuterol inhalers, so I barely even got the shakes on 240mcg/day of clen when I weighed 180lbs. I'm basically immune to clen. Phentermine gave me energy on low-carbs, kept my cravings down too, but still let me eat enough protein and good carbs. I'd take it any day over clen, but that's just my personal view. Others may like clen/eca rotation better, I like ECY/phentermine or even ECY/ritalin if I could get it anymore. If you're going to use a drug, you may as well use one of the better ones in the class lol.

 

[will b huge]

Would love to hear more experience with PHENTERMINE!!!!!!!

THanks

 

[swordfish151]

what are sides of phentermine

 

[galawman]

I used phentermine 37.5mg 1 a day,I felt nothing and it did nothing,so I took 1 in am and 1 in pm and still nothing,clen works for me but everybodys body metabolism is different,what works for 1 might not work for another,you just have to try it and see your results are<good luck, the phentermine is the old half of fen-phen without the fen in it,it fen was banned

 

[Mythicalbeing]

Bump this for KE20....

 

[will b huge]

Phentermine is usually used as a short- term drug along with diet and behavior modification to treat obesity. Recently, it has been combined with diet and fenfluramine (Pondimin) and used over longer terms in selected obesity patients (P & P diets) with some favorable long-term modest weight loss.

DOSING: Phentermine should be taken after breakfast; evening doses should be avoided because of secondary insomnia.

DRUG INTERACTIONS: Phentermine should not be taken by patients with glaucoma, hyperthyroidism, or a history of drug abuse or psychotic illnesses. Phentermine is not recommended in patients with high blood pressure that is not well controlled. Patients on phentermine should have their blood pressure closely followed. Insulin requirements may change in patients on phentermine; alcohol can cause a drug interaction. Abrupt stoppage of the drug can cause withdrawal with fatigue and depression. Phentermine is potentially addicting. Phentermine is not recommended for patients with symptomatic heart disease including rhythm problems.

SIDE EFFECTS: Side effects include diarrhea, dry mouth, constipation, an unpleasant taste, hives, impotence, palpitations, high blood pressure, and fast heart rates. Central nervous system side effects include overstimulation, insomnia, restlessness, tremor, and dizziness

(ITS SUPPOSED TO BE AWESOME FOR FAT LOSS, but can be ADDICTING....I am looking for someone's experience who used this in another thread)

 

[Redux]

Phentermine is usually used as a short- term drug along with diet and behavior modification to treat obesity. Recently, it has been combined with diet and fenfluramine (Pondimin) and used over longer terms in selected obesity patients (P & P diets) with some favorable long-term modest weight loss.

DOSING: Phentermine should be taken after breakfast; evening doses should be avoided because of secondary insomnia.

DRUG INTERACTIONS: Phentermine should not be taken by patients with glaucoma, hyperthyroidism, or a history of drug abuse or psychotic illnesses. Phentermine is not recommended in patients with high blood pressure that is not well controlled. Patients on phentermine should have their blood pressure closely followed. Insulin requirements may change in patients on phentermine; alcohol can cause a drug interaction. Abrupt stoppage of the drug can cause withdrawal with fatigue and depression. Phentermine is potentially addicting. Phentermine is not recommended for patients with symptomatic heart disease including rhythm problems.

SIDE EFFECTS: Side effects include diarrhea, dry mouth, constipation, an unpleasant taste, hives, impotence, palpitations, high blood pressure, and fast heart rates. Central nervous system side effects include overstimulation, insomnia, restlessness, tremor, and dizziness

(ITS SUPPOSED TO BE AWESOME FOR FAT LOSS, but can be ADDICTING....I am looking for someone's experience who used this in another thread)

I can definitely see how it would be addictive. The one I took felt like the peak of a ECA stack. ...Only it lasted 12 hours.

So, can anyone tell me if this stuff is actually a thermogenic? I definitely see the appetite suppressant effect, but is it really doing anything? ANd what about catabolism?

 

[will b huge]

would love to know more myself...

bump