Pharm Grade Anavar.........

[WinnyPumps]

So I finally got the hook up for some real deal OX! It's 10mg a pill.
What dosage should I be taking? I'm doing it for 6-8 weeks Fuckin Pumped!

Next Cycle:
1-12 Test 250mg wk
1-4 Tbol 30-40mg's ed
7-14 Var 40-60mg ed

Currently 215lbs, about 13-15% bf @ 5'10''

 

[big greg 82]

cycle looks good bro!

 

[WinnyPumps]

So which of you good bro's have done pharm grade Var? What's up?

 

[Barch]

From what I've heard 40-60mgs of real pharmaceutical Var is probably going to be too much. I'm sure others who've actually used it before will chime in...

 

[dabuffguy]

Throw it away in an envelope and send it to my house. lolol


40mg of pharm grade var is more than plenty.

 

[ConanX]

Damn you! I'm stuck with my dog-grade shit lol. Oh well

Looks like a pretty devistating cycle. Let us know how it goes brother!

 

[LiquidPhire]

Sorry bro can't comment on pharm grade anavar, but 60mgs of the UGL stuff im using is fucken doing me insane , the pumps and the vascularity and the mid-section fat burning is just incredible its clearly my favorite oral compound ever used. Out of dbol/winny/var/drol.

 

[genetics]

If it is pharm grade, i think you should start at 30mgs, taking a feel of the layout and prolly work your way up from there...

And the tbol at 30mgs will hardly do anything imo....

I've been running it at 90mgs ed the last 5 weeks with sick strength gains and i mean sick

 

[WinnyPumps]

If it is pharm grade, i think you should start at 30mgs, taking a feel of the layout and prolly work your way up from there...

And the tbol at 30mgs will hardly do anything imo....

I've been running it at 90mgs ed the last 5 weeks with sick strength gains and i mean sick

Yea I've never done tbol so I wasn't sure what mg's people go with. Is 90mg's about the average dosage that you bro's go with?

As for the Var I will start out @40mg ed and probably stick to that dosage. From what I've seen from my friend and heard on here 40mg of Ox should be lovely

 

[wolfman87]

i definitely don't think you will be disappointed! when you starting? i wouldn't do 90mg/ed of tbol tho

 

[WinnyPumps]

i definitely don't think you will be disappointed! when you starting? i wouldn't do 90mg/ed of tbol tho

Why not 90mg ed of tbol? What would a solid, reasonable dosage be?
I'm starting mid June.

 

[WinnyPumps]

So it will be:
1-12 Test 400mg wk (Mon-200, Thursday200)
1-4 Tbol 60mg ed
7-14 Var 40mg ed
Adex on hand, pct lookin good
Going for strength, vascularity, lower bf, get strong as a bull, muscular endurance.
Just got wood!

 

[wolfman87]

that looks better...

 

[christopher2100]

40mgs of pharm grade is ideal......

 

[WinnyPumps]

What are the amount of mg per pill with pharm grade Var? I know there are 5 and 10mg pills but is there pills that are dosed higher? I think I'm getting the 10mg pills.
Just wondering if any of you Var guru's know how high the mg's go per pill, thanks!

 

[WinnyPumps]

Bump

 

[needtogetaas]

I gets the pharm grade shit all the time no problems at all. Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and 40mg is plenty

 

[shrimp poboy]

I used to have an unlimited pipeline to oxandrin That is some of the best shit ive ever taken 40mg ed is heaven.It will supress your appetite though.

 

[WinnyPumps]

If it is pharm grade, i think you should start at 30mgs, taking a feel of the layout and prolly work your way up from there...

And the tbol at 30mgs will hardly do anything imo....

I've been running it at 90mgs ed the last 5 weeks with sick strength gains and i mean sick

You've been running tbol @ 90mg ed cause that's gotta be sick, lol! I have done UG Var and it's hit or miss. I had 20mg capsules of it which was obvious to me that is wasn't 100% Var so it pisses me off to not know whatever else was in that shit!
With pharm grade Var I will just feel like I'm cumming all day long and let the good times roll!

What is the highest milligram per pill for pharm grade Var??

 

[WinnyPumps]

I used to have an unlimited pipeline to oxandrin That is some of the best shit ive ever taken 40mg ed is heaven.It will supress your appetite though.

Can anyone answer my question about what mg pills the pharm grade Ox comes in?
I know there is 5 and 10mg pills. Does the mg per pill go any higher??

 

[dabuffguy]

Can anyone answer my question about what mg pills the pharm grade Ox comes in?
I know there is 5 and 10mg pills. Does the mg per pill go any higher??

I thought they were 2.5 mg and 10mg for oxandrin

Other pharm grades probably also have a 5mg. I don't think they go higher than that though.

 

[centy]

Brand name Oxandrin comes in the dosages above.

I took pharm var from a compounding pharmacy that made it in 20mg caps. I could not imagine taking more than 40mg of the stuff.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Don't know if I can get tbol now! I can get pharm grade Var but not tbol, lol. Anyways what should I kickstart this cycle with?

1-10 Test 400 mg wk ( Mon/Thurs)
1-4 ??
6-12 Var 40mg ed, pharm grade Ox

 

[dabuffguy]

Don't know if I can get tbol now! I can get pharm grade Var but not tbol, lol. Anyways what should I kickstart this cycle with?

1-10 Test 400 mg wk ( Mon/Thurs)
1-4 ??
6-12 Var 40mg ed, pharm grade Ox

Give beastdrol a shot bro.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Give beastdrol a shot bro.

What should I expect from Beastdrol?
[1] Strength gains?
[2] Water retention?
[3] Weight gain?
[4] Sides?
[5] How many weeks?
[6] How does it compare to tbol?

 

[dabuffguy]

What should I expect from Beastdrol?
[1] Strength gains?
[2] Water retention?
[3] Weight gain?
[4] Sides?
[5] How many weeks?
[6] How does it compare to tbol?

[1] Strength gains?

Plenty bro. It gives big strength. More than Tbol, and I have used tbol (which I was happy with) but beastdrol exceeds strength gains on anything I've used except anadrol.

[2] Water retention?

None. It will dry you out like winstrol.

[3] Weight gain?

More than tbol.

[4] Sides?

More than tbol. Typical sides from DHT derivative compounds like winstrol.


[5] How many weeks?

4 weeks @ 30mg will be much more effective than 60mg ED of tbol for 6 weeks.


[6] How does it compare to tbol

More strength, more size, more vascularity, but also typically more sides.



Just so you do know, it is not a PH. It is an AAS.

Also, tbol is all UG and quality is not guaranteed. Beastdrol is guaranteed to be pure and is legal.

 

[WinnyPumps]

[1] Strength gains?

Plenty bro. It gives big strength. More than Tbol, and I have used tbol (which I was happy with) but beastdrol exceeds strength gains on anything I've used except anadrol.

[2] Water retention?

None. It will dry you out like winstrol.

[3] Weight gain?

More than tbol.

[4] Sides?

More than tbol. Typical sides from DHT derivative compounds like winstrol.


[5] How many weeks?

4 weeks @ 30mg will be much more effective than 60mg ED of tbol for 6 weeks.


[6] How does it compare to tbol

More strength, more size, more vascularity, but also typically more sides.



Just so you do know, it is not a PH. It is an AAS.

Also, tbol is all UG and quality is not guaranteed. Beastdrol is guaranteed to be pure and is legal.

Thanks bro, looks good to me! What other sides besides maybe joint issues or back pumps?
I think Beastdrol could be my next kickstart.

 

[dabuffguy]

Thanks bro, looks good to me! What other sides besides maybe joint issues or back pumps?
I think Beastdrol could be my next kickstart.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/complete-info-beastdrol-643175.html



Headaches, lethargy, acne, aggresion, high blood pressure (HBP), thinning of the hair, and a decline in healthy cholesterol levels

 

[ConanX]

Quickly:

Is Pharm Grade Anavar the same as good UG Anavar, just that the UG Anavar is under-dosed while the Pharm Grade is more pure? I had great results with only 25mg e/d of UG Anavar and it gave me the results that everyone talks about with real Anavar, so I don't think it was really winny or dbol or anything like that.

 

[dabuffguy]

Quickly:

Is Pharm Grade Anavar the same as good UG Anavar, just that the UG Anavar is under-dosed while the Pharm Grade is more pure? I had great results with only 25mg e/d of UG Anavar and it gave me the results that everyone talks about with real Anavar, so I don't think it was really winny or dbol or anything like that.

There are a few people that I know of that have said they got some Pharm grade var and it was not in the same league compared to UG var that they thought was good stuff.

 

[ConanX]

There are a few people that I know of that have said they got some Pharm grade var and it was not in the same league compared to UG var that they thought was good stuff.

that sounds amazing...thanks bro

 

[WinnyPumps]

that sounds amazing...thanks bro

That does sound amazing! Sucks I gotta wait almost 2 months to start. I'm ready to get it onnnn! lol

So Beastdrol is on the tope of my list for a kickstart if I can't get tbol in time. Any of you other bro's have any ideas?

 

[WinnyPumps]

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[WinnyPumps]

How bout Winny for a kickstart??
1-5 Winny 50mg ed
1-12 Test 400mg wk, Mon & Thurs
8-14 Var 40mg ed

Is this too hard on lipid values?? Who has done a cycle like this??
I would take a shitload of Omega's, Lipid Stable, Liv 52, olive oil, Krill oil
The cycle just looks so sick!

 

[WinnyPumps]

How come nobody has been responding? Did I do something wrong? What the fuck, lol

 

[leanbodla]

40 mgs oxandrolone is way too much - be sure 911 is in your cell as you'll need to call it when you have massive cardiac arrest - - oxandrolone throws yours lipid profile (cholesterol) way way off - - you will be unable to control your HDL from plummeting - the other you can control, maybe, with lots of lipid lowering sups - like red yeast rice, metamucil, etc. Be CERTAIN to take a blood test BEFORE you start and then mid cycle so you can see your lipid profile be completely fucked - - yea OX rocks - killer pumps, strength, hard look, put on 7-8 lbs of ripped muscle -but I've done it a few times and guarantee the calcification in your arteries will increase significantly

 

[Dogfox]

id stick with the tbol instead of the winny and do it at 40-60mg - i ran it as a stand alone and it was extremely impressive for a supposedly weak/mild steroid.
And in relation to the Var, my friend is on a 50 day cycle and he is doin 40-60mg (175lbs 5,10). He has no sides and is loving it.
Good luck with ur final cycle decisions.

 

[WinnyPumps]

40 mgs oxandrolone is way too much - be sure 911 is in your cell as you'll need to call it when you have massive cardiac arrest - - oxandrolone throws yours lipid profile (cholesterol) way way off - - you will be unable to control your HDL from plummeting - the other you can control, maybe, with lots of lipid lowering sups - like red yeast rice, metamucil, etc. Be CERTAIN to take a blood test BEFORE you start and then mid cycle so you can see your lipid profile be completely fucked - - yea OX rocks - killer pumps, strength, hard look, put on 7-8 lbs of ripped muscle -but I've done it a few times and guarantee the calcification in your arteries will increase significantly

I didn't think it fucks with your lipids that bad! How long would it take for my cholesterol to get back to normal after a cycle? Will definitely get a blood test prior to cycle.
I've just really been wanting to try real pharm grade Ox for so long!

 

[dabuffguy]

I didn't think it fucks with your lipids that bad! How long would it take for my cholesterol to get back to normal after a cycle? Will definitely get a blood test prior to cycle.
I've just really been wanting to try real pharm grade Ox for so long!

Although that guys post seems a bit over the top, he's right. In fact, it applies for most orals. Your cholesterol levels suffer. You aren't going to have a heart attack and die though.

They give pharm grade oxandrolone to children.

Your cholesterol will make great improvements dail with a good healthy diet. After 4 weeks, you should be back to fairly healthy levels.

 

[dabuffguy]

How come nobody has been responding? Did I do something wrong? What the fuck, lol

I wasn't going to respond to not seem like I was thoring beastdrol in your face.

But honestly, beastdrol is stronger than winny and produces more results.

 

[WinnyPumps]

I wasn't going to respond to not seem like I was thoring beastdrol in your face.

But honestly, beastdrol is stronger than winny and produces more results.

Yea that guy got me a little freaked out, lol. Anyways I will be trying Beastdrol, Deiselbolan, or Tren-Xtreme for my next kickstart. Winny would be way too much and even harder on the lipids with Anavar at the end of my cycle.
So it should look similar to this:
1-12 Test 400mg wk, Mon/Thurs injects
1-5 Beastdrol or Tbol
8-14 Var 40mg ed

pct- hcg (whenever needed), Nolva 20mg ed for 3-4 weeks, Sustain and toco 8, Unleashed

 

[dabuffguy]

Yea that guy got me a little freaked out, lol. Anyways I will be trying Beastdrol, Deiselbolan, or Tren-Xtreme for my next kickstart. Winny would be way too much and even harder on the lipids with Anavar at the end of my cycle.
So it should look similar to this:
1-12 Test 400mg wk, Mon/Thurs injects
1-5 Beastdrol or Tbol
8-14 Var 40mg ed

pct- hcg (whenever needed), Nolva 20mg ed for 3-4 weeks, Sustain and toco 8, Unleashed

Well, I can guarantee you beastdrol wont be any nicer on the lipids than winny will bro. They are in the same boat as far as that goes.

If you want something a little bit nicer to your body but still gives you what you are looking for, I'd use dieselbolan.

 

[WinnyPumps]

Well, I can guarantee you beastdrol wont be any nicer on the lipids than winny will bro. They are in the same boat as far as that goes.

If you want something a little bit nicer to your body but still gives you what you are looking for, I'd use dieselbolan.

Whatever, it's only a few weeks. That's a bold statement saying Beastdrol will yield better results than Winstrol! I am sure Beastdrol is a quality product but better than Winstrol? Does anyone else want to give an opinion??

 

[ConanX]

If winny has been working for you, then why fix it if it ain't broke?

I'm wrapping up my 6 weeker of oral winny and am in love with the stuff.

 

[dabuffguy]

Whatever, it's only a few weeks. That's a bold statement saying Beastdrol will yield better results than Winstrol! I am sure Beastdrol is a quality product but better than Winstrol? Does anyone else want to give an opinion??

It is a strong statement.

What you have to realize is that beastdrol is methylated masteron.

Dbol is methylated Equipoise.

It's the same alteration made to a different injectable steroid.

Beastdrol is an actual aas. It's not a overhyped product that isn't what it calims to be. It's the real shit and should be treated as any other aas.

It was made at the same time as anadrol was back in the 60's. The compound has been around for a long time.

We're just lucky the FDA is dumb enough not to realize what is still out there.

 

[WinnyPumps]

If winny has been working for you, then why fix it if it ain't broke?

I'm wrapping up my 6 weeker of oral winny and am in love with the stuff.

You have an excellent point, lol. Plus I can get oral Winny right now for super cheap.
How do you think it compares to Anavar strength wise, endurance, vascularity, lean gains??

 

[WinnyPumps]

What do you guys think about a small dose of Deca in there? Just trying to get some ideas so I can start getting things together.
1-12 Test 400mg wk, Mon/Thurs injects
1-4 Tbol 50mg ed
1-10 Deca 200mg wk
8-14 Var 40mg ed, pharm grade Ox

 

[ConanX]

You have an excellent point, lol. Plus I can get oral Winny right now for super cheap.
How do you think it compares to Anavar strength wise, endurance, vascularity, lean gains??

Not enough experience yet to tell you how they compare. It is similiar in a way...I think the winstrol gives you more of a dry, tighter look. The anavar might have had a better "composition" effect. I also was taking different dosing and different compounds so I can't pin point it yet. I'm going to try Anavar again later in the summer at a higher dosage so I can see for myself which one I prefer. But I think they are both excellent when cutting from what I've seen.

I understand your dilema bro. Lots of good options out there and it looks like you are on the right track (low bloat orals).

 

[WinnyPumps]

Not enough experience yet to tell you how they compare. It is similiar in a way...I think the winstrol gives you more of a dry, tighter look. The anavar might have had a better "composition" effect. I also was taking different dosing and different compounds so I can't pin point it yet. I'm going to try Anavar again later in the summer at a higher dosage so I can see for myself which one I prefer. But I think they are both excellent when cutting from what I've seen.

I understand your dilema bro. Lots of good options out there and it looks like you are on the right track (low bloat orals).

Yea not a big fan of dbol, anadrol or any of those kind of orals and will probably never try them. Deca however I have been wanting to try. From what I've seen from friends and heard on EF it is such a good stack with Test and whatever else for solid size. I want to keep the dosage low to keep sloppy gains away and to maximize the collagen producing effects.

I have heard it's great with Winny too especially because Winny prevents progestin buildup and combats some water weight. So I might even finish that cycle with Winny and hold onto my Var for a later day.

 

[ConanX]

Yea not a big fan of dbol, anadrol or any of those kind of orals and will probably never try them. Deca however I have been wanting to try. From what I've seen from friends and heard on EF it is such a good stack with Test and whatever else for solid size. I want to keep the dosage low to keep sloppy gains away and to maximize the collagen producing effects.

I have heard it's great with Winny too especially because Winny prevents progestin buildup and combats some water weight. So I might even finish that cycle with Winny and hold onto my Var for a later day.

I used some Deca over the winter, but at a very lose dose. Only 200mg e/w. The thickness I got from it was great. Slight bloat, but I think if I dieted MUCH cleaner that could have been avoided. And if winny was added at the end, I think that would help out with things a lot. I'll save that cycle for the winter

 

[WinnyPumps]

I used some Deca over the winter, but at a very lose dose. Only 200mg e/w. The thickness I got from it was great. Slight bloat, but I think if I dieted MUCH cleaner that could have been avoided. And if winny was added at the end, I think that would help out with things a lot. I'll save that cycle for the winter

So you likd it @ 200mg?? That's what I'm lookin to do. I think I'm going to hold onto my Var for later. Right now I'm holding onto 215lbs at 5'10'', probably still around 12-13% bf. Tough call to keep lean bulking or stay around the same size and try to cut up a little. Bulking is just so fun though, lol.
How was your recovery with the Deca??

 

[ConanX]

No recovery issues...although I didn't get blood work done, so I can't tell you I recovered fine either, ya know? A lot of people on EF have used Deca with much more experience than I have, but the results all seem to be that you get nice, big, thick gains. Also, I found that my joints felt as smooth as butter.

 

[WinnyPumps]

No recovery issues...although I didn't get blood work done, so I can't tell you I recovered fine either, ya know? A lot of people on EF have used Deca with much more experience than I have, but the results all seem to be that you get nice, big, thick gains. Also, I found that my joints felt as smooth as butter.

So you did only 200mg? What did you stack it with?
I would probably split the dosage up and do 150mg twice a week.

 

[ConanX]

So you did only 200mg? What did you stack it with?
I would probably split the dosage up and do 150mg twice a week.

Test E at 250mg e/w

 

[WinnyPumps]

Test E at 250mg e/w

That's a pretty mild cycle. I like it! Recovery was probably a breeze.
Hope I'm not annoying you with all these proposed cycles, lol.
1-12 Test 400, split 2 injects wk
1-10 Deca 200mg wk
1-4 Tbol 50mg ed
8-14 Winny 50mg ed

Mmmm!

 

[ConanX]

That's a pretty mild cycle. I like it! Recovery was probably a breeze.
Hope I'm not annoying you with all these proposed cycles, lol.
1-12 Test 400, split 2 injects wk
1-10 Deca 200mg wk
1-4 Tbol 50mg ed
8-14 Winny 50mg ed

Mmmm!

This winter, I believe I'll be running something very similiar to you.
1-4 Oral Kickstart (perferably 50mb T-bol if I can grab legit stuff)
1-11 Test E 375mg (250/ml so that's why)
1-10 Deca 300mg e/w
8-12 Winny 50mg e/d

Hell, I think I could even do this cycle and gain some mass while hovering around 10% bf with a good diet and cardio. The thing is, I KNOW I'll grow on that and I won't be able to hide an extra 10-20lbs in t-shirt season lol. You should love your cycle though, sounds great! Maybe just up the Deca to 300mg? 200 did a great job for me, but I would have done 300 if I had access to more amps. Either way, looks like you're gonna have fun!

 

[WinnyPumps]

This winter, I believe I'll be running something very similiar to you.
1-4 Oral Kickstart (perferably 50mb T-bol if I can grab legit stuff)
1-11 Test E 375mg (250/ml so that's why)
1-10 Deca 300mg e/w
8-12 Winny 50mg e/d

Hell, I think I could even do this cycle and gain some mass while hovering around 10% bf with a good diet and cardio. The thing is, I KNOW I'll grow on that and I won't be able to hide an extra 10-20lbs in t-shirt season lol. You should love your cycle though, sounds great! Maybe just up the Deca to 300mg? 200 did a great job for me, but I would have done 300 if I had access to more amps. Either way, looks like you're gonna have fun!

Yea it's weird my source and everyone I talk to hasn't even heard of turinabol before. That's why it might be a problem for me to get legit stuff. You will definitely grow on any Test/Deca cycle from what I've heard. That is exaclty why I keep going back and forth with a bulk cycle or cutting cycle because dudes at my gym and my friends no something is going on. I was the same size for a few years then the last 3 months I have gained 15-20 pounds of good muscle, lol. At least 10 people have made comments about it. If I got bigger I would start getting teased by my friends because they are little pencil necks and make me feel like a freak. I'm probably going to do it anyways, bulk or cut baby!

 

[WinnyPumps]

I also noticed I have completely abandoned my pharm grade Ox, lol! I am just confused and can't make my mind up.

 

[dabuffguy]

I also noticed I have completely abandoned my pharm grade Ox, lol! I am just confused and can't make my mind up.

You are thinking about it too hard. Stick with your Test/var cycle and decide what to kick it with (winny, tbol, beast are all good choices). You'll get results no matter what you use really.

 

[theemperor]

Kick it with the BEAST! My body has been transformed by at least 50% these last 2-3 months while working out with Test/Beastdrol cycle. Its real!!

 

[WinnyPumps]

Kick it with the BEAST! My body has been transformed by at least 50% these last 2-3 months while working out with Test/Beastdrol cycle. Its real!!

Geez, how long have you been doin Beastdrol?? How do you think it compares to tbol or Winny??

 

[WinnyPumps]

You are thinking about it too hard. Stick with your Test/var cycle and decide what to kick it with (winny, tbol, beast are all good choices). You'll get results no matter what you use really.

You're right. It's just fun to put together your next delicious cycle. I might just stick with my original plan and do Test, Deca, Winny, Var in the same cycle. Just try to contol lipids the best I can. Solid gains would be sick!
1-12 Test 400mg wk
1-5 Winny 50mg ed
1-10 Deca 200mg wk
8-14 Var 40mg ed

 

[theemperor]

Geez, how long have you been doin Beastdrol?? How do you think it compares to tbol or Winny??

Damn, I have done Superdrol a total of 3 times and they were all cycles. Now, with this last one that I just finished last week, it was the Beast and let me tell you it has been the most potent of them all! No shit! It is very powerful and I would highly advice on it. I have never tried Winny, although I had the opportunity, I declined because of the sides it can have. If you look real closely between Winny and Beastdrol, you will have less harsh sides with the Beast and you actually would feel and get bigger than winny. That is why I gave Superdrol a try years ago. Let me tell you, my first superdrol cycle I gained 14 lbs. solid alone with it. Second cycle was an ok 9lbs but that was because I did not eat enough food and training was not as hard as first, and that is being honest. NOW, the Test/Beastdrol cycle I just recently ran, Oh my God....!! I went up from 153 lbs. to 171 lbs. and that is solid muscle bro!! I have never looked better than I have til now and I feel wonderful. Only side IO got was lower back pumps but very minimal because I drank plenty of water and took care of PCT. Get ya Some !!

 

[WinnyPumps]

Damn, I have done Superdrol a total of 3 times and they were all cycles. Now, with this last one that I just finished last week, it was the Beast and let me tell you it has been the most potent of them all! No shit! It is very powerful and I would highly advice on it. I have never tried Winny, although I had the opportunity, I declined because of the sides it can have. If you look real closely between Winny and Beastdrol, you will have less harsh sides with the Beast and you actually would feel and get bigger than winny. That is why I gave Superdrol a try years ago. Let me tell you, my first superdrol cycle I gained 14 lbs. solid alone with it. Second cycle was an ok 9lbs but that was because I did not eat enough food and training was not as hard as first, and that is being honest. NOW, the Test/Beastdrol cycle I just recently ran, Oh my God....!! I went up from 153 lbs. to 171 lbs. and that is solid muscle bro!! I have never looked better than I have til now and I feel wonderful. Only side IO got was lower back pumps but very minimal because I drank plenty of water and took care of PCT. Get ya Some !!

Nice! The Beast sounds that I should give it a whirl. How tall are you bro? 171 pounds is pretty light unless your're a shorter dude.
Thanks for the info though. It's a toss up between the 2. I guess both work so I just have to choose one.

 

[theemperor]

5'8". It sounds light because thats exactly what I have been all my life. Shit, to me 185lbs is my ultimate goal, personally.

 

[WinnyPumps]

5'8". It sounds light because thats exactly what I have been all my life. Shit, to me 185lbs is my ultimate goal, personally.

Well either way that is some impressive gains off a Test/Beastdrol stack.
How were the strength gains?

 

[theemperor]

I posted on another thread about it and it boils down to this - Beastdrol blows the panties off of Dbol!! Many others have benched,lifted weights at least 20-40 lbs heavier on the STARTING set!! You see what I am trying to say? Its freaking powerful!!

 

[WinnyPumps]

I posted on another thread about it and it boils down to this - Beastdrol blows the panties off of Dbol!! Many others have benched,lifted weights at least 20-40 lbs heavier on the STARTING set!! You see what I am trying to say? Its freaking powerful!!

How did it feel coming off of it? Be honest

 

[theemperor]

It felt the same way staring it. It doesn't feel like nothing. No addiction, no moodiness, NOTHING! IMO, I would not wwaste anymore time trying to figure out what you want to kick start it with. If your going to do it, just do it. One thing for sure, its your decision and to be respected. I'm just giving you my personal experience on it. Many people, especially those that are young and think they have an idea what "Dbol" or "Winny" really do not have a clue what they do and its effects. They just take word of mouth and hearsay. What I mean is that read on others out here, especially those like VETS who have done complete cycles.