pgf experiences

[el jefe]

I was injecting a total of 2cc per day mixed between chest and bi's. For a total of 42 injections a week . Gains were less than impresive and are accompanied by severe pain and of course "liquid shit bombs". I experienced a "zero" increase in size but actually lost 1/2" in my arms and almost 1/2" in my chest which was fat. I can tell you right now this was definitely my first and last pgf experience. The negative sides far outweigh the positives. If its fat loss you are looking for, find an alternative.

 

[Jeff_rys]

no PGF did not give me gyno

ARE YOU SAYING pgf gave you gyno?

i do not have gyno, just some deposit under the nipple and this already for all my life. I only use roid for about 3 years.

 

[GOD_HERCULES]

GROWTH:
Pgf2 stacked with insulin will give you a LOT OF MUSCLE GROWTH.
I stacked it for two weeks and I gained 15 pounds of solid muscle in TWO WEEKS!! EAT A LOT!!
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The role of hormones and prostanoids in the in vitro proliferation and differentiation of human myoblasts.
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Fetal human myoblasts have been employed to examine the role of hormonal factors in human myogenesis. The results show that human myoblast proliferation is stimulated by insulin, hydrocortisone, and prostaglandin F2 alpha (PGF2 alpha).
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PAIN:
Sometimes I inject 4ml at once in my biceps/calves. Yeah bros, sometimes i can't walk all day long. What the fuck: No pain no gain. In this form pain becomes art. Much worse than tren acetate. I love pgf2. pgf2 is fucking cool!!!! In a few weeks I will stack tren with pgf2 with insulin with clen. the ultimate pain performance.

IMPORTANT to know:
They say inject pgf2 as far as possible from your intestine. Because of the shitting. That's true. I have a far more important advice. Inject pgf2 as far away from your heart muscle. Pgf2 will cause your heart muscle to grow enormously. I experienced this myself. i have a rest heart beat of only 35!!! Sometimes I am afraid that my heart will stop! So I take clen with it to get my heart beating a bit faster.
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The amount of PGF2 alpha extractable from the hearts of rats with cardiac hypertrophy induced by myocardial infarction was also found to be greater than that in sham-operated control rats. These results indicate that PGF2 alpha may play an important role in inducing cardiac hypertrophy.
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Fatt LOSS:
Everybody agrees with this one. One of the best fatt loss drugs ever.
What about fat: PGF2 vs DNP?
We are told that DNP is the strongest thermogenic (temperature elevating) drug available. I dispute this statement. Inject PGF2, wait for ten minutes and you will sweat profusely. In fact, your body temperature will rise so much that you may feel very cold while a witness will get scared as you feel so hot. By elevating your body temperature, PGF2 will burn up your fat at an accelerated rate. Furthermore, unlike muscle cells, fat cells do not like to be exposed to PGF2. As a result, they die. Mark this well: unlike a classical diet which makes each fat cell shrink, PGF2 kills fat cells. With PGF2, you can say goodbye to your excess adipose tissue.
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PGF2 alpha may be involved in the thermogenic actions of interleukin-1 beta which is also a potent thermogenic agent acting via CRF.
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For many months I inject pgf2. Bottem line is. You have to stand the side effects and know how to use it. Very important is that you have to eat as much as possible. If you don't you will shrink!
There is too much to write about pgf2. If you have any questions about pgf2 you can drop me an email.

GOD HERCULES RULES!

 

[The Ranger]

It is a hard choice to make...Pain vs. Gain....For some it's great, for others it's a living hell.....

Ranger

Check your mail Bro...

 

[Big Brother Val]

Most of the questions are answered here.

I hope you have a job where you can lay down on your stomach for 2-6 hours a day. That's what you'll need for calf injections. Lay on a trashbag though, because you'll still get the shits.

The stuff is rough, my man.

As the B.O.P. (Brothers Of Pain, as Ranger used to call us) stated above... it's Pain vs. Gain. I can't imagine you'd be successful with the calf shots. Not multiple times a day/week. It's worse than you imagine it is.

Good luck.

Oh yeah, and has anyone else noticed the recent surge in PGF2a posts?

 

[Jeff_rys]

God Hercules where you the former "Englishman"?

Can well be you gained 15 lbs on PGF with insulin but not everybody (like myself) wants to use Insulin. So for me no gains at all, in fact size loss in the arms, at least 2/5 inch.
This because of the fat loss.
Unfortunately not everybody can shoot PGF without having pain like Happyscrappy.
Still it is not a proven fact that everybody would gain combining the insulin with PGF. Furthermore i can understand some using 10 cc's a day (or more), but i think there is no need to shoot 4 cc's at once. You could shoot 2 cc and again 2 cc and minimize the pain, unless you are a pain-freek like yourself.
Also we may not forget that combining GH with Insulin will give you also muscle weight gain, so again if taken only Insulin, wouldn't it be possible to gain muscle size without the PGF?
Because if muscle gains can be optained with insulin alone, then there is no proof that there is muscle gains from the PGF.
Just a thought.
So maybe PGF is more a drug for professionals who make a living out of it, but for the ego-guy (which is nothing wrong) maybe it is too much.

 

[GOD_HERCULES]

No, I am not the former Englishman. I am a GREEK, a big one.

You are right. I just wanted to see how much pain I could endure and if I could get extra results of a 4cc injection. I believe there is an extra fat loss with big injections but definitely no extra muscle growth.

As far for the insulin. First time for me to try insulin. Don't know if I would have had the same results without the pgf2. A lot of bros that tried insulin before tell me that they get better results when they combine insulin with pgf2.

I know you can find a lot of research that conclude that pgf2 causes muscle cells to hypertrophy and stimulate the proliferation of myoblasts (i.e. NEW muscle cells)
Thus not only bigger muscles but also more muscles. And all those bros that say that they get no results from pgf2??? I think that they just don’t eat enough. When I used insulin together with pgf2 I sipped all day table sugar and whey, besides my regular diet. Sometimes I would get up at night to take a pgf2 shot with 150grams table sugar, 200grams maltodextrine , 50 gram whey and 30 grams of flaxseed oil.

I don’t know if my results will stay after I stop. I never stopped with the pgf2. But when I stop I will let u guys know.

Pain is art.

 

[Big Brother Val]

Jeff's experience was similar to mine. Though I did put some size on the arms. I did lose a shitload of bodyfat.

God Hercules... I read the info you're talking about. On a page from Darkham (sp) that no longer exists.

I was taking 4 cc's at once, a few times a day, at my heaviest usage. And Fina at 75 mgs a day wipes PGF2a off the chart. I'm glad it works for you as it does... but I think you are the exception.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

I like the stuff. Really, the pain is not too bad if you stay under .7cc and just do multiple shots, often in the same muscle (i.e, tri long and outer head, or soleus and gastroc). The multiple daily shots are just not practical for me though, as I have to do other things, like go to work. I switched mainly to getting wired on EC (very important to use stuff without aspirin though), shooting a muscle group, hitting up the bathroom, and then going to the gym and training that muscle group. Really, if you get psyched up enough and just do the shots it is not bad. Before a pressing workout I'll hit the tri long and short heads and the upper/inner chest each with .5cc, for a total of 3cc. The whole 6 shots takes only about 5 minuites. I've actually seen an increase in some of my lifts while using PGF2a.

just be sure to drink ALOT of water. with the shits and extra sweating you will get dehydrated very easy.

 

[Jeff_rys]

Pain is art?

Whaw God_Hercules impressive.
As for not eating enough, well in my case i do NOT want the extra fat, the moment fat comes around the belly, i stop eating.
I know not a good idea, but that's how i am.

I am with BBV here, doing only 3 cc's of Fina a week (don't want high BP) and i can assure you gains are there.
So anyone doing 75 mgr Fina/day should get great results fast and PGF cannot accomplish that.

Hopefully you get what you want out of it.